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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1289.0. "NEW DAYS FOR HUNTING IN MASS" by 7922::BLIVELY () Wed Sep 01 1993 12:10

    Has anyone heard that deer season in Mass is now going to be for 12 
    days instead of 9 days Starting This year some one read it in the
    Worcester paper.
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1289.1LEDS::AMBERSONWed Sep 01 1993 12:383
    Yep it's true!
    
    Jeff
1289.2MASS HUNTINGGIAMEM::WOODARDWed Sep 01 1993 13:323
    READ NOTE 1276.28 FOR MORE INFO
    
    
1289.3Georgia ODIXIE::SHADDIXWed Sep 01 1993 14:053
    You guys only get 12 days to hunt deer???!!!!  I would go crazy.
    
    Earl
1289.4We couldn't maintain the work levelCHRLIE::HUSTONWed Sep 01 1993 15:2712
    
    Ya, but you boys down sowth sort of just wonder out in some field,
    sit yourself down and wait for a deer or 25 to come walking by, then
    you pick your shot and take him home, only to come back the next day.
    
    
    The rest of the country have to actually work for it :-)
    
    lots and lots of :-)
    
    --Bob
    
1289.5Excellent News !!!!!!!!!!SALEM::PAPPALARDOThu Sep 02 1993 13:4611
    
    
    All, I just got off the phone with Mass F&G and a press release will be
    going out either today or tomorrow announcing that this years season 
    will be extended to 12 days!
    
    Now if they only changed the law on rifled slug barrels.
    
                                                            Good Hunting,
    
                                                               Guy
1289.6I'll second that....MSBCS::MERCIERThu Sep 02 1993 14:056
    I'll second the motion on rifled slug barrels. It's always been a pet
    peeve of mine. Can anyone shed some light on why they don't want us
    using rifled barrels. Are they afraid we might hit what were aiming
    at!!!
    
    Bob M..... Who wants the new Mossberg 500 with rifled barrel
1289.7Increased distance?CHRLIE::HUSTONFri Sep 03 1993 09:4811
    
    I think the law is in place due to the belief (correct or incorrect
    I don't know) that rifled slug barrels will give you more distance,
    thus reducing the safety of using slugs and making it more like
    rifles. 
    
    I know they are more accurate, but do they make the slug go noticably
    further?
    
    --Bob
    
1289.8WAHOO::LEVESQUEkisses,licks,bites,thrusts&stingsFri Sep 03 1993 11:235
 No, they don't go any further, they just go straighter. The (il)logic being
used here is that rifled barrels will give hunters more confidence and lead
to longer shots. The truth of the matter is that the people who are going
to take long are already taking them; their slugs just aren't traveling as 
straight.
1289.9SALEM::PAPPALARDOFri Sep 03 1993 15:4736
    
    Hunting in both Mass and New Hampshire both for the past 4 years I
    look at the laws of both states and compare.
    
    NH can use any type of "single" shot muzzleloader, Mass can only use
    "hammer style" and use of sabots or scopes is illegal. Sabots were
    explained to me as 2 projectiles, Wad & Bullet, to me that sounds
    the same as shooting a round ball. And the use of Scopes or Inline
    (enclosed) priming systems are not PRIMITIVE which the season is
    listed as. How does a Compound bow pass vs. a Long or Recurve bow.
    
    NH allows the use rifled barrels on shotguns. When I talked with the
    law enforcement folks in Mass their reasoning was that a few
    manufacturers make Over & Unders with a Rifle on top and Shotgun on the
    bottom. Their feelings are the "SLOB" would use the rifle first and 
    follow up with the shotgun. IMHO this possible situation could be
    stopped by the law reading firearms to be use are measured in Gauge
    ONLY and have no conjunction with the use of Rifle/Pistol calibered
    ammuntion.
    
    NH allows the use of release aids for Archery, this years Mass was
    supposed to also allow it. In the past the definition of release aid
    was associated to crossbows.  
    
    
    Don't get the wrong idea i'm not bad mouthing Mass they do have an
    excellent F&G program. But, I wish that abutting states would review
    each others laws and the wording of the them to have some consistency.
    I think "WE" need an easier way to get our concerns across to folks
    in all F&G departments to have them look at exsisting laws in
    comparison to reasonable technology available to todays sportsman.
    
    
    
                                                       Guy
    
1289.10southern hunting not so easy, sorry for the ratholeODIXIE::RHARRISBowhunters never hold back!Fri Sep 03 1993 16:5625
    In reference to reply .4, your assumption towards southern hunting is
    completely incorrect.
    
    When we spoke with Jackie Bushman of Buckmasters last year, he clearly
    stated that out of all the places he has hunted, "You boys down here
    in the south really have to hunt hard and smart to harvest an animal."
    
    Southern hunting is not so easy.  Why do you think we have a longer
    hunting period?
    
    September 18- October 22 Archery
    October 23-December 6, December 26- Jan 1   firearm northern zone
    October 23-January 9 southern zone firearm.
    
    Sure, that's alot of time.  However, with over 500,000 deer hunters
    in the state of Georgia, the deer herd continues to climb slightly 
    each year.
    
    In summary, come on down south for a hunt before you base decisions
    on how "easy" we have it down here.  This is a friendly invitation,
    not a sharp reply, come on down, your the next non resident hunter on
    "The buck stops here!"
    
    Bob 15 days until bow season.
    
1289.11Nothing personal...CHRLIE::HUSTONFri Sep 03 1993 17:4723
    
    Bob (.10)
    
    Sorry if I ruffled any feathers, it was meant sarcastically.
    
    I have been down south, sort of, to North Carolina, for 3 days of
    hunting. Had a great time, ended up with 2 deer.  I did however
    see more deer those 3 days than I have seen in NH in the last 7
    years of hunting up here. Up here if you see a couple over the 
    month you can hunt, you did good. Last year I saw 3, one doe
    (can't shoot her), and two flags (one turned out to be a buck,
    the other ????)
    
    Didn't seriously mean you guys don't work for it down there, there
    is simply no way to outsmart and get Mr Whitetail, consistently,
    without putting in your time and work. 
    
    Again, no offense intended, there ain't none of it that is easy.
    
    --Bob
    
    
    
1289.12ODIXIE::RHARRISBowhunters never hold back!Tue Sep 07 1993 09:216
    No offense taken.  
    
    11 more long grueling days until bow season.
    
    Bob
    
1289.13Are all Zones Included?IAMOK::CHRISBELLThu Oct 28 1993 13:187
    does anyone know if the deer season extension covers ALL zones?
    
    I have heard that the southern zones of Mass were not included.
    
    I hunt Zones 11 and 12...
    
    			Chris.....