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    I picked up a road kill a week ago last Saturday... It ran thru the
    passenger side window of a pick-up truck about a quarter mile from the 
    house... The police had to finish her off.... We did a quick gut job
    and off to the butcher she went. Ended up getting 60 pounds of meat off   
    her. Can't complain about the price.. I had asked the police what they
    where going to do with it and they said "dig a hole and bury it" I just
    could'nt let her go to waste like that, besides the only damage was to
    the head... I have a question for everyone, This doe was definately
    nursing a fawn, she looked like a bitch after a litter of pups if you
    know what I mean.. What do you think happened to the fawn after mommy
    got hit, the police looked around a little bit for it but could'nt find
    it. Do you guy's think it would get adopted by another doe???? I hope
    this was the case. What is everyone elses opinion on this??????? Also
    anyone else ever pick-up a road kill... She's tastes great!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    
    
                                                                  Mike

	If you have to ask what happened to the fawn, I don't think 
you want to hear the answer.

    yup.  eight to ten weeks old (thereabouts).    Not a chance. 

    
    maybe you could take some scent from the doe and a bleat call and
    see what happens????
    
    Rick
    
    

    Imagine the fawn ended up like mama  ie: a meal.
    
    Jeff
    

	The Boston Globe
	Friday, July 30, 1993
	Article by Gerard F. Russell

	ORANGE - Hunters and animal rights activists squared off this week in a 
	hearing before the Fisheries and Wildlife Board over a proposal to
	lengthen the deer hunting season in Massachiusetts.

	About 50 people atteneded a public hearing on a recommendation to extend
	the shotgun deer hunting season by three days begining next year.

	Some Highlights...

	...herd is estimated at 60,000 and growing about 1% annually

	...the proportion of the deer harvest taken by hunters during the
	    shotgun season has dropped from 81 to 70 percent in the last 
	    six to seven years.
	
	..."The shotgun season is our most consise means of control...Our
	    control is being reduced as the shotgun percentage is being reduced".

	...Cape Cod, Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket would not be included.

	...Opponents said the proposal in unnecessary, the herd should be allowed
	   to be controlled naturally, overpopulation is because of manipulation 
	   by man. 
	   
	...But Vecellio (state deer project leader) said the herd "only controls
	   itself when it crashes due to starvation...and that is a ludicrous 
	   method to control any wildlife population that has been impacted by 
	   man".

	   The board will vote on the proposal at the August 26th meeting.

	

	George

    Keep us informed.  Every win is another notch to strengthen pro hunting
    advocacy.
    
    Bob
    

    Well, things seem to be slowing down. But if they follow through with
    the memo I just read we won't have to worry about it. There is an
    effort under way to abolish all non business related notes files. 
    What's next????
    
    					Eric Roren
    T-22 days and counting to Dove season!!!!!!!

    Eric,
    
    I hear you on the dove hunting!  If dove season didn't come in Sept 1,
    I could never make it to bow season.
    
    What state are you hunting them in, bag limits, etc?
    
    Wess

    Wess,
    	I live in Colorado Springs and do the majority of my dove and
    upland bird hunting in Kansas. There are a group of us that head for
    the border most every Sept. 1st for the last ten years or so. We camp
    at a reservoir in Colorado about ten miles from Kansas. It's a multi
    purpose trip: We get to do some pre season scouting for pheasants, run
    our bird dogs, catch a few fish and last but not least shoot 30 doves 
    a day( 15 in Kansas and 15 in Colorado).  I CANT WAIT T-18 DAYS!!!!!!
    
    Eric
    

    Went down to deer land #2, Monticello Georgia, this past Saturday
    afternoon just to check things out.
    
    This was the property they did a select cut of timber on last spring. 
    Well, it looks like deer haven BIG TIME!  It is so thick, it's
    incredible.  There must have been some big storms down there this year.
    A big pine tree was uprooted at deer camp, leveling the shelter.  A
    large pine tree was blocking the main dirt road, so I broke out the ole
    tow chain and cleared the road.  Dropped off a couple of mineral salt
    blocks by main trailheads, along with 600 lbs of corn.  There is plenty
    of browse, so the corn is meaningless, but what the heck.
    
    As to not disturb the area, I got out of there as fast as I got in.
    Red, I told Earl about this Saturday when I got back, you would not
    believe the swamp.  With all the growth, you can't even see the road
    where it crosses the swamp.  I drove by where I thought the road was.
    It looks so prime.  I can't wait.  Also, some real nice looking deer
    tracks.  Do to it being prime time snake season, I chose not to go
    romping around the area.  I know exactly where I am going to hunt.
    
    Bob 33 days until bow season.
    

    
    
    
    
                   Does anyone know of a hunters safety course coming up
    soon for the Leominster/ Lunenburg area????? If so could you please put
    in the details here.. Thanks in advance..
    
    
                                                                 Mike

    Guys,
    
    Man, I can tell everyone is on edge waiting for opening day, myself
    included!  
    
    I was out scouting on Saturday, It looks like the coyotes are thicker
    than ever.  I found several sets of little bitty deer tracks walking
    along side the "doe" , with coyote tracks right behind.  
    
    My brother did some fencing which is now funneling the deer right
    through an area that was covered with scrapes last year...it might be
    promising.
    
    Squirrel season is Saturday, I guess I'll feed the mosquitoes if I
    don't have to work...probably do more deer scouting than hunting,
    although the 22mag needs to be shot.
    
    I did see 4 does on the way to work this morning.  They were all fairly
    decent size, no fawns in sight.
    
    Wess

    I just bought my hunting license this year.  Hunting license, big game
    tags, and archery stamp were a total of $27.00.
    
    Big game tags = 3 antlerless
                    2 antlered
    Gun or bow, it doesn't matter.
    
    bob
    32 more days
    

    Ky hunting license is $12.50, and tags are $17.00 which allows for 2
    deer, one of which has to be a slickhead.  They are good for
    bow/muzzle/gun/crossbow/big stick/etc.
    
    If I get lucky enough to tag a nice buck with my bow, I will save the
    doe for my .50cal flintlock, it sure is fun!
    
    Squirrel season- - - - -- - - - -  - - - -Saturday
    Dove-- - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - Sept. 1
    Bow- - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - Oct. 1-Jan 15th
    Early Muzzleloading(2day)- - - - - - - - -Oct 19,20
    Rifle- - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - --Mid Nov(9days)
    Rabbit/Quail- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Nov 23-Feb15
    Ducks- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -To be set
    When my wife hates me- - - - - - -- - - - Saturday-Mid Feb
    
    
    Good luck to everyone out this weekend.
    Wess

                    <<< Note 1276.15 by CSOA1::VANDENBARK >>>
                             -< Deer herd=350,000 >-
>>    When my wife hates me- - - - - - -- - - - Saturday-Mid Feb
    
    
    Good luck to everyone out this weekend.
    Wess


	Wes,

		Teach her how to use one of those stick throwers :-)

	Red

    Who do you think she's gonna throw sticks at then, Red?  Keep her away
    from firearms, bows, and those darn iron skillets.
    
    Buy her somethin purty jus befur huntin sesun, donchano!
    
    bob
    

Seeing as how this topic doesn't seem to be about anything in particular,
I figure I might as well put this in.  Check my personal name if you
want to get a clue as to what I'm talking about.

I've been sitting through a hunter's education (they don't call it
hunter safety anymore) course with my 9 year old son.  And, the
topic of anti-hunters and animal activists has been discussed.  As
many of you well know, there's some of those folks that are just
down right fanatical, even to the point where they want all animals
treated as humans and oppose any use/exploitation of any animals
by humans.

So, it only seems reasonable that some of the people care for dogs,
cats and other carnivores.  Being conscientious about their responsiblities
to these animals and such, they should be well aware that they should
feed these animals meat.  How do they get the meat to feed the animals
without exploiting or using other animals?  At the very least this should
pose an incredible moral deleimma for some.  It also make hypocrites
out of them.

Just food for thought (and maybe ammo for your next encounter).

Jerry

  My opinion is anti's do not have morals, only emotions.  If they had
  morals they wouldn't believe as they do.

  Animal lovers (in more than one sense) probably feed their pets
  roadkilled hunters
 
  Jerry

    While sitting at the 20 acre pond across from my house (inaccessible
    except when frozen or with waders), over the course of 45 minutes, I
    counted 108 black/mallards taking off, 8 teal, 2 egrets, 2 herons and 3
    beavers.
    
    It was a blast sitting directly beneath the flight bath of the overhead
    flights.  
    
    At about 6:00, I returned with a fishing rod and jitter-bug, only to
    see the same display in reverse.
    
    Mark.

>    It was a blast sitting directly beneath the flight bath of the overhead
>    flights.  

 Hope you had an umbrella. ;-) BTW- what's a flight bath? Izzat where UPS
takes their planes to get washed? :-)

    
    	Just like you, Mark, to go duck huntin' with a fishin' rod.
    
    Clay

                  <<< Note 1276.22 by GENRAL::WADE "Pull!" >>>
                                   -<  :*)  >-

    
   > 	Just like you, Mark, to go duck huntin' with a fishin' rod.
    
   > Clay

	Hopefully he won't reverse it and go fishing with a shotgun :-)


	Red

    	Obviously, Red, you've never tried it. A good time to be had by 
    all  8*)....
    
    			Butch

          <<< Note 1276.24 by JUPITR::BUTCH "No Shortcut Too Short" >>>
                              -< It's a Blast!! >-

>    	Obviously, Red, you've never tried it. A good time to be had by 
>    all  8*)....
    
>    			Butch


	Time for our yearly rathole.....So, is a 12 ga. too much

	for perch ? :-)

	Red

    Claybroon, you *slay* me.
    
    Levesque, do me. :^)
    
    Mark.

    	12ga is useful only with 00buck. With smaller shot size, the armor-
    plated scales deflect them. I prefer my .308 because when you stick the
    barrel under water, the sights are still east yo pick up and the
    smaller barrel doesnt spook them. They get real mean when wounded 8*)..
    
    
    						Butch
    

	In note 1276.6 I related information from
	a Boston Globe article about how the Mass
	Fisheries & Wildlife Board conducted a hearing
	to explore lengthening the 1994 shotgun season 
	to control the heard.

	The vote on the extended season was taken
	last Thursday, August 26th. 


		   *** Disclaimer ***
	*** Please wait for Official Confirmation ***

	I was told by an attendee (representing a Mass
	Sportsmans Group) that the vote was
	7 to 0 in favor of the extended season...but
	wait it gets better...the extended season WILL
	ALSO APPLY TO THIS YEAR!!!

	This would mean that the 1993 season (slated 
	to end on Wednesday, December 8th) will 
	continue to Saturday, December 11th.

	Stay tuned...I called Westboro Headquarters and
	they confirmed the outcome of the vote; a press 
	release should be out this week. 
	

	George

	

    I saw a scragly small coyote on the way home yesterday evening.  He was
    running the ditch next to the interstate looking for road kill..I
    guess.  Too bad I didn't have my pistol!
    
    
    Hammered a limit of squirrels last saturday with my 22mag.  Dove comes
    in tomorrow...Come on, bow season!
    
    Wess

    
    >Hammered a limit of squirrels last saturday with my 22mag.  Dove comes
    >in tomorrow...Come on, bow season!
    
    Boy am I jealous, we in NH have to wait for Oct 1 to break out the
    hunting stuff (except archery). Even oct 1 is no piece of cake, 
    ever try to woodcock and/or grouse hunt with the leaves still 
    on the trees? Talk about "fun"!
    
    --Bob
    

    Last year I was swatting mosquitoes while in my stand for the first few
    weeks of NH bow...Ever try staying still while those bloodsuckers are
    after you?  First year in 20 years hunting that I have seen mosquitoes
    during deer season.
    
    Mike

    I know exactly what you mean about mosquitos. Thats why I stay out of
    the woods until just the beginning of October. There are always those
    last few mosquitos that just don't seem to realize that fall and winter
    is on the way, some of them just don't know when to fly south. ;^)
    							Bret

    Now it has come time for me to quit my summer ramblings, and start my
    deer season.  It is five minutes to five.  I will be on my stand in 
    thirteen hours.  Welcome new deer season.  Today has been a helluva
    day.  The weekend is here.  The season is here.  Looking forward to
    spend six hours on a plywood seat on my ladder stand, in the woods.
    Looking for a good buck, or a lonely doe, with my arrow nocked.
    No does with fawns, no scraggly racks.  Bringing the camcorder to,
    just incase.  Everyone have a wonderful weekend, I know I will.
    
    Bob
    (Earl, you take good care of my wife now!)