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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1226.0. "Posted"NO HUNTING"" by CSLALL::PAYNTER () Tue Dec 01 1992 16:51

    Does anyone know the Mass. rules and reg. for posting land
    "NO HUNTING"?????
     The area I go hunting was posted last Tues.,and I was told 
    the party that did it used a Cablevision bucket truck and put 
    the signs about twelve up on every telephone pole for about
    one mile.This same Person posted everyone's land on the street,
    like it or not.And might I ad without there permission.
     I have talked to the local Conservation Dept.who new not 
    about the signs,but they seemed to be a little grey about the
    regs.
     I would like to get a copy of these Regs.and politly(yeh!right)
    forward them to the party in question.
    
    Thanks for any help......
     Steve in Haverhill,MA.
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1226.1The other sideGIAMEM::J_AMBERSONWed Dec 02 1992 08:5527
    It's illegal to post someone elses land without permission.  This 
    brings up a good subject on posting and ethics in general.  After
    spending a lot of time working with a particular farmer and developing
    a relationship, I was given exclusive rights to hunt his land.  Prior
    to this _no one_ was given permission to hunt for at least ten years.
    Before that time he let anyone hunt it and had many problems with
    vandalism, litter, etc..  Part of the deal with me getting permission 
    was that I kick anyone out who was trespassing.  He gave me a letter 
    indicating that I could do so and sent a copy to the local PD.  This
    land is liberally posted, and is located in a town that is "Land Owner
    Permission Only".  I bet I have kicked off at least thirty guys in two
    years of hunting this land.  People don't care.  The opening line from 
    at least half these idiots is "Hey, I've been hunting this land for
    years, what gives him the right to post it!"  Smarten up folks, it's 
    attitudes like this that will ban hunting all together.  The owners
    wife was on the land during the begining of pheasant season and asked 
    two "gentlemen to leave and was told to "go &**^% yourself".  I'm at
    the stage now where if I see people on the land I will quietly leave
    and get the cops.  They have told me they are very willing to arrest 
    someone and make an example out of them, and the land owner is willing
    to press the point in court.  I guess the purpose of this is to point
    out that we don't have some God given right to trespass on anyones
    land.  The damage done by idiots who ignore posted signs damages all 
    of us when the time comes that your town votes on limiting hunting. We
    need to get smarter and better at improving our image.
    
    Jeff (who needs to blow off steam)                    
1226.2Nice GuyCSOA1::VANDENBARKWed Dec 02 1992 13:0823
    Jeff,
    
    I know how you feel.  They are putting a subdivision on the back side
    of my friends farm and i think every construction worker that was
    building the houses has been kicked off of my friends farm.  One guy
    even had the nerve to tell my friend(Bob) that he had permission.  Bob
    threw him out and the very next day Bob's brother ran into the same guy.  
    He told Bob's brother that Bob gave him permission!  This family
    brings "Redneck" to a new level.  Bob and two of his brothers went out
    with AR15's and shot about 300 rounds all over the place...Yes I know,
    Stupid.  Another guy I know ran into this trespasser about a week later
    and was told that the trespasser was down in a sinkhole scared to
    death for over an hour.  The trespasser then told him that if he ran
    into Bob or his brother again someone was going to get hurt!  This guy
    is about 60.  Most of the time the older guys have more respect for
    trespassing but not this guy.  Bob has since called the game warden,
    police, etc.  I guess No Hunting signs posted every 30 yards aren't
    enough?
    
    
    Wess
     
    
1226.3ODIXIE::RHARRISThe deerhuntermeistersupremeThu Dec 03 1992 07:5312
    Wess,
    
    Is this Kentucky?  I personally think that a round of .223 is ready to
    do some talking to those boys, don't you?  Either that, or have the
    rubber from their vehicle meet my uncle.
    
    UNCLE HENRY!
    
    Bob (sobbing because the last weekend of regular season is 48 hours
    away)
    
    
1226.4Yes, it's the Bluegrass stateCSOA1::VANDENBARKThu Dec 03 1992 16:2214
    Deerhuntermeistersupreme,
    
    Yes it is Ky.  It turns out that the guy lives about a mile down the
    road and is probably walking in.  Bob said he told the game warden and
    that should do the trick.  
    
    You said that your season will be over in a couple of days, is that
    rifle only or is bow going out too?  
    
    Ky has a 7 day muzzleloading season that comes in on the 14th.  I guess
    I will piss the wife off a few more times when that comes in.  
    
    Good luck, 
    Wess
1226.5ODIXIE::RHARRISThe deerhuntermeistersupremeThu Dec 03 1992 17:0017
    Wess,
    
    Bow season was over October 23.  Northern zone gun season ends on
    December 6, picking up again for just one week effective 12-26.
    
    On the other hand, where Earl hunts, the southern zone, the season
    doesn't even shut down at all until January 10.  I am definetely
    joining that hunting club next year, and I think red is to.
    
    It's ok, trout season is in March, pregardening is in February,
    golf in spring, and then I'll pick up the bow again in August.
    
    At least I have plenty of books, tapes, pictures and memories to last
    a few months.  But it ain't over yet!
    
    bob
    
1226.6I still needs to know....CSLALL::PAYNTERThu Dec 03 1992 22:551
    But what about the TOPIC (rules and regulations on posting in MA.)
1226.7HEFTY::CHARBONNDSacred cow? Let's barbecue!Fri Dec 04 1992 00:432
    re.0 Why don't you just go down to your local police department and
    file a complaint.
1226.8SALEM::PAPPALARDOMon Dec 07 1992 13:2913
    
    You need to contact the Town/City office to see what the law is. When I
    went to a Bow Hunter Education course in N.H. I asked the Game Warden
    attending a couple of questions concerning posting. He first said check
    the town regulations which can be different, and my second question was
    around land posted "NO HUNTING" but the owner hunts it or lets others. 
    He stated that the game is owned by the STATE and NOT the LANDOWNER but
    there are NO laws prohibiting the type of signs used. If "WE" wanted to 
    see that change then "OUR" elected officials would have to pass a law
    state wide to change it.
    
                                                         Guy