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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1205.0. "1992 hunting fatalities" by CXCAD::COLECCHI () Mon Oct 05 1992 13:46

    First reported hunting fatality in Colo this season that I know of just
    occurred. Antelope hunter shoots partner in chest. From reports his
    partner walked into the line of fire and got shot with a .270. Shooter
    went into Shock. 
    
    JC
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1205.1Tragedy too close to home.JUPITR::BUTCHNo Shortcut Too ShortFri Nov 13 1992 14:3312
    	Not meaning to break the beautiful silence(in this topic, anyway),
    no news is good news in this case, but I want to make you aware of some
    of the mentality in the woods. A jogger in Conn. was running in a
    firecut in the woods and was shot by a hunter and killed. Let me 
    re-phrase that, he was shot by a moron and killed. He was wearing a
    blue ski jacket. We hunters have it bad enough without these ___holes
    in the woods. Even if it is 1 or 2 out of a million, too much. Be
    careful of these jerks out there. I just caught the tail end in the 
    news so I don't have a lot of details. I don't think I want to.
    
    
    						Butch
1205.2HUNTERS must develop the proper "mindset"MKFSA::HOLLENTue Nov 17 1992 12:5057
    You know...
    
      ...I just have to respond about the slobs (not hunters) that
    invaribly roam our woods. We are being stereotyped because of these
    dim-wits, and our sport is at risk because of it....
    
      Not that I'm any great hunter (which I am not), but on the safety
    side of things, I am! Maybe these people have to have it BURNED into their
    brains that the DEER deserve a good, clean, safe kill. This will in-
    varibly lead to less accidents from the shear fact that to GET a good
    clean safe kill requires that the deer be *very much* in the open...
    
      4 years ago I sat on a ridge and watched a deer to my left about 60-
    70 yards away for over 5 minutes. I didn't take the shot because I
    could only see the hindquarters. The rest of the deer was hidden behind
    a tree. Finally, it came into the open somewhat, and I missed. BUT,
    I didn't take a haphazard shot at the deer when I first saw it. In
    another hunt, I shot a big doe that I watched trotting through the
    woods for over 100 yards directly in front of me. If I was like some
    of the hunters out there I'd have "opened up" when I first saw her.
    In fact, in the same area two days before a guy took a small button
    buck and took it by what I call "woodsblaster mode". You know, the
    old BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG! One of my hunting partners was in
    the woods and heard the bullets flying over his head! When he came up
    on the guy, it was hit once in the hindquarter. He was using a 30/06
    M742 Woodsmaster (Woodsblaster!). The doe I got was dropped at 75 yards
    with ONE shot from a peep sighted lever action carbine. Which kill
    was the "more ethical" kill ?!?  Almost the same thing happened this
    year. A nice sized doe was jumped and ran right down the ridge directly
    behind me. That deer was parrallel to me on that ridge for over 10
    minutes. BUT, I could never get a clear view of her (except for a
    straight-away rear end shot), AND I was using a muzzleloader with a
    patched roundball. The deer was about 50 to 60 yards from me. I didn't
    take the shot, and the deer finally saw/winded me, blew at me and took
    off, tail held high.
    
      ... Now for the weird thing... This experience was better than taking
    the doe I got this year in Pennsylvania!!!  Why? I don't know!  Maybe
    because it was the "classic setting" in the Northern NH deer woods, AND
    I had one of those elusive grey ghost right there, and she didn't even
    know she was being watched! I even used her for an experiment by trying
    my Woods-Wise 6-in-1 game call out on her. She'd just lift her head up
    everytime I did the "bleat" call...
    
      It is THIS type of hunting mindset that ALL hunters should have in
    my humble opinion. Taking clean shots, and being an OBSERVER of deer
    as well as a HUNTER. 
    
      If you don't take clean shots at deer, in other words "have com-
    passion for them", then you're not a hunter, you're a, for lack of
    better words, an "animal killer". This is, I feel, the key to our
    sport, and it's something that'll make us all safer hunters too!
    
      Sorry for the rambling...
    
    
    Joe
1205.3ODIXIE::RHARRISThe deerhuntermeistersupremeTue Nov 17 1992 13:185
    AMEN to .2
    
    
    bob
    
1205.4good publicity - NOT!WR1FOR::WAMELING_FRTue Nov 17 1992 19:455
    I was watchin' ABC World News Tonight, last night and the newscaster
    reported; " Hunting season just opened and it's the usual frenzy.."
    then went on to tell of the five deaths to date.
    
    Rich
1205.5media can kiss my whitetail!ODIXIE::RHARRISThe deerhuntermeistersupremeWed Nov 18 1992 08:237
    I don't know if the note is in here, or firearms, but we all know
    how slanted and biased the #$$%^^ media is.  It just makes me sick.
    
    Does President elect Clinton hunt?  I know Bush does.
    
    bob
    
1205.6Isn't Gores wife a big time anti?ESKIMO::BINGWed Nov 18 1992 08:536
    
    Clinton has *claimed* to be a member of Ducks Unlimited and
    *claims* to support the sportsmen of Arkansas, but if you're
    expecting him to help us dont hold your breath.
    
    Walt
1205.72 fatalities in Vt.....BTOVT::MORONGWed Nov 18 1992 09:0523
      The Vermont season is only 4 days old, and we've already had two
    hunting fatalities.  Between 1987 and 1991, there was a total of
    3 fatalities.
    
      In both instances this year, the shooter was in the same party
    as the person who was killed.
    
      The first one was opening day.  Single shot, thru the hip (must have
    hit the femoral artery).  The paper reported that the person who was
    shot was not wearing "reflective clothing" (I assume they meant he had
    no hunter orange on).  He was shot by his best friend.
    
      The second, which occurred yesterday, was in southern Vt.  A hunter
    had shot a 4-point buck, dragged it 100yds to a rock wall and started
    gutting it.  He propped the head up against the stone wall (why?).  The
    hunters brother saw the head of the deer, saw the movement, and shot.
    He then discovered that he'd shot his brother.  This one is a little 
    strange.  Its almost easy to see how it happened... the guy definetly
    saw a deer, identified it as a buck and shot.  I assume the shooter
    couldn't see the brother behind the stone wall.  Very unfortunate cir-
    cumstances.
    
    -Ron-
1205.8No bullets required in the Rockies.MULEY::KOOSERToo little time. Too many hobbies.Tue Dec 15 1992 18:078
    Chalk another one up for Colorado.  No bullets this time.
    
    Ark. hunter got separated from his hunting party in the 3rd season - we
    had a good storm in that season - and a couple of cowboys found him
    frozen a couple of weeks later while rounding up strays in the high
    country.
    
    Mark