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Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

Title:	The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:	Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:	SALEM::PAPPALARDO

Created:	Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:	Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1561
Total number of notes:	17784

1190.0. "Why can't I take 2 deer?" by BRAT::BERKELEY () Fri Sep 04 1992 14:12

    I am thinking of writing a letter to the Executive Director of the N.H. 
    Fish and Game Dept.  My complaint is, bow hunters can take 2 deer a year,
    that is 1 in the bow season and 1 in the rifle season using a rilfe of
    course. They buy a hunting license and a archery license giving them the 
    right to take 2 deer.  Now I buy an out of state hunting license and a 
    muzzle loading license, if I get one during muzzle season my hunting is 
    ended. I feel that if I buy a license then I should be able to fill my tag.
    I should be able to take one during the muzzle season and also during
    the rifle season.. I feel that they are discriminating against us
    muzzle hunters and rifle hunters. Do other fellow hunters feel the
    same?
    I would like to get a responce to this and maybe a letter that we could
    send to the Executive Director of N.H. Fish and Game.
          
                         Dana

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1190.1	Maybe the time of the year?	CHRLIE::HUSTON		`Fri Sep 04 1992 14:15`	9
	No solid answer, I would guess that it is a simple matter of math. If there are lots more muzzleloaders than archers it could add up to lots more deer being taken. total guess but who knows. --Bob
1190.2		ESKIMO::RINELLA		`Fri Sep 04 1992 14:32`	16
	I'm a N.H. resident and I have been buying the muzzle loader, regular hunting and an archery license. Now I'm allowed two deer, one with the archery tag and one with either the rifle/shotgun and muzzle loader tag. If you want a two deer limit then get into archery :'). I'm not sure I understand why you see it as a problem. Depending on the amount of deer available in a certain state is what depicts the limits. There is quite a difference when hunting with a muzzle loader as opposed to a bow and arrow. You have been limited to your shot a great deal. 20 yards is the ideal bow range as opposed to anywhere from 20 to 75 yards with a muzzle loader... I believe that most of the states have the same regs just different seasons.. Gus Who can't wait for Sept. 12!
1190.3	you pay for an extra 10 days	SALEM::MACGREGOR		`Fri Sep 04 1992 14:34`	10
	Maybe one more reason is that the states ML season gives you the ten days just before the start of firearms season. It is therefor an extended season. All you end up doing is paying for the extra 10 days. I for one buy an archery tag and don't buy the ML license. If I get a deer during the ML season with my bow I still get to hunt with rifle. If I were you I would take up archery. I for one think it's more challenging. But using a smokepole is more challenging than a rifle or shotgun for that matter also. .1 is probably more correct than I am. IMHO. Bret
1190.4		ODIXIE::RHARRIS	Bowhunters never hold back!	`Fri Sep 04 1992 16:30`	8
	In Georgia, you get 5 tags. You can use them for all bow, rifle, or a mixed combination of both. If you bow hunt, you have to buy an archery tag. K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid! (stupid= state government). 15 long, agonizing, gut wrenching days until bow season. bob
1190.5	HUNT GEORGIA	OPENED::LIBS_C		`Sat Sep 05 1992 14:45`	11
	RE .4 If you hunt on a Wildlife Management Area where deer checkout is required, you do not use a tag on the deer, a special WMA tag is applied by the Ranger at the checkout station, SO, you can harvest more than 5 deer in Georgia. Of the 5 tags Bob mentioned, 3 are antlerless only tags so the most bucks that can be tagged is 2. Carl
1190.6	more Ga. tag info	ODIXIE::RHARRIS	Bowhunters never hold back!	`Tue Sep 08 1992 09:01`	10
	Carl, Make sure and check WMA regulations prior to hunting. We noticed that during the Archery hunt on Chestatee WMA, you have to use one of your own tags, yet firearm hunts on the same WMA, they supply the tags. Discrimination against bow hunters!!!! Bob 11 more days until bow season
1190.7		WAHOO::LEVESQUE	Let us prey	`Tue Sep 08 1992 09:19`	24
	Dana- Archery licenses, by virtue of the difficulty associated with bagging a deer with a bow and arrow, entitle the hunter to harvest a second deer. Archery season in NH is ~3.5 months long, and yet only ~700 deer are taken (last year's record, shattering the old record by nearly 300.) Muzzle loader season is only 10 days long, during which ~1600 deer are taken. Obviously muzzle loader season extracts a far higher toll on the deer population the archery season, despite the fact that it is much, much shorter. Muzzle loader season has a built in advantage; it is _before_ the regular rifle season and hence the deer are not yet so skittish. Thus you are paying for an added advantage when you buy your muzzle loader license. The net effect of your proposal would be to significantly increase the deer harvest. The upshot of that is that the regular firearms season would have to be shortened, and the number of "any deer" days in each WMU would likely plummet. I think that is a heavy price to pay for muzzle loader hunters to take a second deer. I would definitely oppose such a rule change. Let's continue to rebuild the herd, instead. The Doctah
1190.8	Try another state?	CSOA1::VANDENBARK		`Tue Sep 08 1992 13:04`	9
	In Kentucky we pay $17.50 for 2 deer tags. We can take them however we want, but only 1 may be a buck. Of course if you know someone who is having deer eat them out of house and home, and has special crop damage permits, well let's just say I can't wait until Oct.1!!! If you don't like the laws in that state, hunt a different one with ones that are to your liking. Wess
1190.9		RIPPLE::CORBETTKE		`Wed Sep 09 1992 12:59`	3
	In Oregon the archers have a stronger state lobby system. Ken
1190.10	(alabama)	PDMONT::DESROSIERS		`Fri Oct 02 1992 15:24`	3
	we can take 1 deer per day in the state of alabama during the first have of the season then from dec 15 to jan 31 we can take two deers per day as long as one of them is a buck or a doe
1190.11		ODIXIE::RHARRIS	Bowhunters never hold back!	`Fri Oct 02 1992 17:33`	10
	you don't mean to brag and you don't mean to boast but it looks like you get to tag more deer than the most. I'm a poet and don't even know it bob
1190.12	Mr. Harris	CSOA1::VANDENBARK		`Tue Oct 06 1992 17:48`	12
	Bob, I think you must have put too much insect repellent on last time you went out and it got to you. Bob oh Bob, did you kill a deer probably not cause you drink too much beer They smell it on your breath when you sit on the stand with who knows what in the palm of your hand. So Bob now I wish you the best of luck to go out on saturday and kill a HUGE buck.