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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1123.0. "Crow Hunting" by LMOADM::MEAGHER () Tue Jan 07 1992 09:06

    
    I'm interested in CROW hunting, I've never done it but have hunted
    just about every thing else. If someone could fill me in on the calls
    used, best gun and load and time of year it is legal. I'm adding a
    keyword (crow) onto this note since there wasn't one for this
    conference.
    
    Thanks, tim
    
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1123.1MCIS5::PAPPALARDOA Pure HunterTue Jan 07 1992 10:4825
    
    
    Caww,Caww,Caww!!!!  Boom-boom!  Crow hunting has to be "one" the most
    over-looked activitys in the late year, it's a lot of fun, just wish I
    had more time.
    
    All you really need is a basic crow-call, two or three of you calling
    wildly will really be effective.
    
    If you can get an owl decoy(owls the enemy of crows) set it high
    in open view on a tree. Set 2-4 crow decoys about and call like crazy.
    
    Keep hidden and wear camo. Number 7 1/2's will kill crow. Crows also
    have flight paths. They seem to use the same every-morning, locate
    these, set up within them and you're on your way. Find three or four
    different flocks and rotate as to keep the caution down.
    
    Crows are a smart bird, when you do call them in let the first few hang
    out around you without them seeing you. In about 5-10min you should
    have anywhere between 20-200 birds....then, blast'em....
    
    P.S. Corn farmers love Crow-Hunters.
    
    Rick
    
1123.2MCIS5::PAPPALARDOA Pure HunterTue Jan 07 1992 10:5622
    
    
    Oh yeah, The seasons in,
    
    
    New Hampshire:    9/15 - 12/16
                      3/1/92 - 3/31/92
    
                       N.H. No Limit can hunt 7 days a week.
    
    
    Mass:             Jan-01 - Apr-10
                      Jul-01 - Apr-10 1992
    
               Mass: May only be hunted on Friday,Saturday and Monday
                     during the open season.
    
    Can any Mass hunters explain those dates?  Mass always has to be
    complicated.
    
    Rick
    
1123.3Why else?HYEND::POPIENIUCKTue Jan 07 1992 11:363
    re. -1
    That's so on the rest of the days of the week our legislators can eat
    crow.
1123.4a possible explanationESKIMO::BINGTue Jan 07 1992 11:5811
    
    
    re dates for MASS.
    
    I remember reading somewhere that crows are protected and that you can
    hunt them only a certain amount of days of the year. So I *think* what
    MASS did was to say instead of hunting everyday for 4 months we'll let
    you hunt 3 days a week for 9 months. Something like that, I'll see if I
    can find the article, it's in one of my many books.   
    
                           Walt
1123.5protected in Mexico?USRCV1::GEIBELLKING FISHING ON LAKE ONTARIOTue Jan 07 1992 12:519
    
    
       For some reason I remember something about an agreement with Mexico,
    the crow is their national bird? or something like that. of course the 
    memory isnt what it used to be. so I think its some type of an
    agreement the U.S.A has with Mexico.
    
                                                  Lee
    
1123.6the true story on crow hunting lawsUSRCV1::GEIBELLKING FISHING ON LAKE ONTARIOTue Jan 07 1992 13:2519
    
    
       Well I was sorta right on my last reply, after talking to fish &
    wildlife, they said that the governing of crow season is left up to
    each individual state, but its length in season is governed by a treaty
    between 7 countries(mexico is one of them) I was told that it came
    about because at one time the crow was almost extinct.
    
        I was wrong in saying the crow is mexicos national bird, but as I
    said memory is lacking anymore must be old age setting in early.
    
     
        I do remember seeing a note on crow hunting earlier I put in a
    lengthy reply there as to how we used to hunt the black bandits.
    
    
    
                                    Lee
    
1123.7Just asking...RIPPLE::CORBETTKETue Jan 07 1992 13:344
    What DO you do with crow after you kill it??
    
    
    Ken
1123.8Birds of a feather...???AIMHI::BROWNTue Jan 07 1992 13:4416
    Happy New Year to all of you...
    
    
    Just had a simple question about huntin' crows for ya, and I hope you
    can possibly help.
    
    Being a hunter who only shoots what he will eat, and never having the
    opportunity to try crow before.......
    Could someone please tell me what does crow taste like???
    
    I've eaten my share of "literal" crow before, but never the cooked
    bird type.  Please don't tell me it tastes like chicken!
    
    
    Thanx in advance,
    Tom
1123.9Read Note 425LEDS::VESESKISTue Jan 07 1992 13:4517
    
    re .0
    
    	Tim,
    		Go read note 425.  There is a lot of info on crow hunting.
    
    
    
    
    re. .7
    
    		What else! You feed them to the crows.
    
    
    
    Ken
    
1123.10your point is taken...butBTOVT::REMILLARD_KTue Jan 07 1992 14:5615
    
    
    re .8
    
    Guess you'd never take a varmit, fox, coyote, etc.
    
    I hear you, and 90% of the time stick to those same principles, but 
    realize that population control can mean death to an animal that is
    undesirable for me to eat.  I hope you weren't trying to imply any
    guilt to those interested in this challenging hunt...
    
    To each his own within the game laws...we all hunt for different
    reasons.
    
    Kevin
1123.11Eating more crow...AIMHI::BROWNTue Jan 07 1992 15:2818
    re>.10  Kevin
    
    Nope, never meant to offend anyone by the statement, but my own
    attitude toward hunting is as I stated in my last reply.  I don't
    condemn anyone for their hunting positions as long as they stay
    within the legal laws and use safe tactics.
    
    I was more interested about info on whether the crow was a tasty
    replacement to hunting patridge (grouse) in the off season...
    I'm always looking for an excuse to get back out there after the
    bird/deer season ends, and figured that crow might be a reasonable
    alternative.  I don't think I can wait till the spring turkey season
    comes around...
    
    
    Sorry for any offences, It was not my intent.
    
    Tom
1123.12Crow pie ala modeSTRATA::BINGTue Jan 07 1992 15:5010
    
    
    Again the memory is slipping but if I remember correctly one of my
    survival books listed crows as being "Edible but not palatable".
    Meaning you can eat it to survive but it taste like dog stuff. They
    also listed fox, skunk and something else as being like that.
    I'll have to check for recipes 8')
    
                                      Walt
    
1123.13Baked CrowLEDS::VESESKISTue Jan 07 1992 16:2220
	
	Here is a pretty good recipe for crow I found in an old recipe book:


		1	Large crow, plucked and gutted
		4 Tbs	Butter
		1	Clove garlic, chopped finely
		3 Tbs	Tarragon, dried
		1	18in x 12in x 1in oak board


		Combine butter, garlic and tarragon to make a paste.
		Coat the inside and outside of the bird with this paste.
		Place the bird on the oak board and place in a 375 degree
		pre-heated oven.  Bake for 1 hr.


		Remove from oven, throw away the crow, eat the board.		

		(Sorry guys, old joke but couldn't resist.)
1123.14Crow Pie?WMOIS::TESTAGROSSABTue Jan 07 1992 16:331
    re.06	I shoot it again.
1123.154 and 20 blackbirds baked in a pieHYEND::POPIENIUCKTue Jan 07 1992 16:348
    The recipe I remember (but have never tried) is that you gut and pluck
    (or skin) the crow and then boil the meat off the bones and use it like
    chicken in a meat pie with veggies, etc.  I've done this often with
    ducks and can't see why it wouldn't work for crows.  (But as I said, I
    can't personally vouch for it.)  Like a prior noter, I too don't eat
    them today because I also don't shoot at what I won't eat.  As a teen
    ager though, I used to enjoy mixing crow hunting with woodchucks.  Et
    neither.
1123.16It's good luck!WMOIS::TESTAGROSSABTue Jan 07 1992 16:365
    Oops! Meant .07
    
    >> What DO you do with crow after you kill it??
    
       Shoot it again!
1123.17APHE::BULLARDTue Jan 07 1992 21:349
     Certainly can't use them for dog training. I have never seen a
    dog refuse to pick up a bird like they will the crow. The labs
    I('ve) have retrieve dove, quail, pheasants, ducks, geese etc.
    , and love it, but absolutely positively refuse to pick up one
    of them crows. These dogs will eat feces, roll and dead things
    lick themselves and others....and ya wanna know if ya can eat
    crow????  :^) x100
    
    chuck 
1123.18knock em deadMAIL::BROOKSBB.BROOKS AT BR-549Tue Jan 07 1992 22:169
    I certainly would not eat crow.  Around where I live the crows spend
    their days at the city dump eating their fill. Oh yuk!  That kinda like
    eating catfish, the vacuum cleaners of the lakes.  I do think they
    would be fun to hunt, you know like taking out revenge on a bird that
    flocks in big trees and dodo's all over each other and all over your
    car underneath.  But, thats never happen to me.
    
    
    B.B.
1123.19my dog too...BTOVT::REMILLARD_KWed Jan 08 1992 08:1922
    
    
    re .17
    
    I always thought my dog was just being a bonehead for not wanting to
    pick up crows...you know elitist syndrome or something...duck, geese,
    and grouse or nothing pal!!!  She will bring them back, but won't do
    her usual circle to heel holding the bird, she just drops the thing
    when she gets close to me.  The look on her face when she brings it
    back is just unbelievable, squinting all the way, I know those eyes are
    saying, yuk.yuk.yuk...
    
    To the noter, I forgot what reply you were and your name, like I said I
    take no offense.  It's just that I'm a little sensitive to that because
    I see the anti's pushing that as something in their agenda.  If you
    don't eat it than you SHOULDN'T be killing it, etc....  I still believe
    there are valid reasons, ecological and recreation, in which some
    species can be harvested for reasons other than consumption.  I feel,
    as hunters, we need to stick together on this...just thought I'd clear
    it up by replying to you...thanks for listening.
    
    Kevin
1123.20DATABS::STORMWed Jan 08 1992 11:167
    I took my lab out crow hunting a few years back.  She retrieved it
    alright, until about the 3rd retrieve.  She picked up the bird, carried
    it into the standing corn, and proceeded to bury it.  I got the
    message..............
    
    Mark,
    
1123.21Just in PassingOASS::SOBCZYNSKI_LThu Jan 09 1992 06:486
    
    re .5  
    Believe that the Mexcian Bird is the Eagle with a snake in its
    mouth.
    
    
1123.22GULF::DESROSIERSThu Jan 09 1992 15:504
    i remember the same thing as .5 stated but its not the crow its called
    a raven which is different then crow. the mexican govt. was getting
    upset about the U.S. shooting at the crows and most of the time it was
    a raven instead.
1123.23Some people think they are deliciousEMDS::PETERSONFri Apr 24 1992 13:559
    
    
    	FWIW,
    
    	The MAy edition of Fir-Fis-Game hashints on cooking crow, along
    with an article on hunting them.
    
    	Chuck
    
1123.24try this recipeCSC32::J_HENSONBlessed are the cheese makersFri Apr 24 1992 15:2819
>>                     <<< Note 1123.23 by EMDS::PETERSON >>>
>>                   -< Some people think they are delicious >-

>>    	The MAy edition of Fir-Fis-Game hashints on cooking crow, along

This reminds me of a story I once read.  The Washington Biological
Survey had a crow banding (you know, leg bands) program.  At one
time they received a complaint from someone who had apparently
killed one of the banded crows.  The complaint was about the
cooking instructions.

Naturally, the Survey folks were a bit perplexed until they examined
the bands a bit more closely.  Sure enough, there it was.


 

	Wash. Biol. Surv.