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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1102.0. "Mass. Hunter is killed" by LEDS::VESESKIS () Fri Dec 06 1991 13:17

	Saw this in the Boston Globe today:


		HUNTER IS KILLED AT OTIS AIR BASE

	State and Dept. of Defense police are investigating the death of a
33 year old Bourne, Ma. man who died after being shot yesterday while hunting
with friends on the grounds of Otis Air Base. State Police said Allan Philbrick
of Monument Beach section of Bourne was shot once in the back at 1:20pm.

	He was flown to Cape Cod Hospital in Hyannis where he was pronounced
dead shortly before 3 pm. An autopsy is scheduled today.

	Philbrick was hunting with several friends, according to a state 
trooper. The trooper said the bullet entered Philbrick's back and exited
his chest. The trooper said no charges have been filed but the death is still
under investigation.

	According to the trooper, Otis officials allow up to 600 hunters a day
on the grounds during hunting season. Defense officials were not available 
for comment.

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1102.1SKIVT::WENERFri Dec 06 1991 15:555
    
    	Any idea whether he was wearing hunter orange??  Isn't it law in
    Mass to wear it?
    
    just curious - Rob
1102.2KNGBUD::LAFOSSEFri Dec 06 1991 16:048
    From what someone just told me here, they heard it on the radio at
    lunch and it sounds like a group of guys were walking in together and
    one of them had an accidental discharge... the monumental reason for
    muzzle control.
    
    Does anyone have any more accurate info??
    
    Fra
1102.3exitLEDS::VESESKISFri Dec 06 1991 17:0613
    re .1 >        Any idea whether he was wearing hunter orange??  Isn't
    	>	   it law in Mass to wear it?
    
    
    		You bet, they make us wear so much that it looks like there
    	are 6 foot orange popsicles walking around the woods.  
    
    
    		Whatever the final outcome of this tragedy is, whether it
    	was an accident or an errant round, the point is to BE CAREFUL.
    	There are only a few more days of shotgun season here in Mass and 
    	I am sure that all of us would not like to see this story
    	repeated.
1102.4CARROL::LEFEBVREWorld leader pretendMon Dec 09 1991 09:0610
    One thing to keep in mind is that not all accidents are due to a hunter
    mis-identifying his/her target.  Some may be due to the hunter not
    knowing what is beyond his/her line of fire. 
    
    In some of these cases, the hunter could have legitimately missed a
    deer and the victim may have been on the other side.
    
    Know where your bullet stops.
    
    Mark.
1102.5SA1794::CHARBONNDand straight on 'til morning.Mon Dec 09 1991 11:572
    Just how big is this base? What kind of hunter density is there
    with 600 guys in the woods?
1102.6ODIXIE::RHARRISonly one shot, please!Mon Dec 09 1991 12:206
    Obviously not big enough.  
    
    
    
    bob
1102.7WAHOO::LEVESQUETurning CirclesMon Dec 09 1991 12:318
>    Obviously not big enough.  

 Yeah? What about when hunting accidents happen in the Allagash�? Is that also
"obviously not big enough"?

 The Doctah

� The Allagash wilderness is an immense tract of uninhabited land in Maine.
1102.8add Guy's scenario too for that matterKNGBUD::LAFOSSEMon Dec 09 1991 12:4218
    Bob,
    
    I'm gonna play the devils advocate...  whats more important, getting
    shot or making some noise when moving around... if the plastic is that
    big of a problem, buy a cheap HO cloth vest.
    
    Explian that to the Game Warden, "well it's like this sir, my vest is
    too noisy so i figure I can take it off when i sit down... I know i'm
    breaking the law, but it's my life I jeopardizing"...
    
    Now, lets go one step further and add Mark L.'s scenario and your
    really playing with fire...
    
    Not picking on you, just trying to get some further thoughts...  I know
    you take it off and beleive me your not alone, I know alot of guys who
    do the same thing, right or wrong... 
    
    Fra
1102.9GIAMEM::J_AMBERSONMon Dec 09 1991 12:425
    This guy was shot in the back at close range.  I don't think hunter
    density is an issue.  Actually,  hunter density is the issue as in
    dense = stupidity.
    
    Jeff
1102.10Did some time there.LEDS::VESESKISMon Dec 09 1991 13:0323
    re. 5 >     Just how big is this base? What kind of hunter density is
    there with 600 guys in the woods?
    
    	I hunted there with a couple of friends about 8 years ago.  The
    base is big but they limit the area in which you can hunt in because
    of securtity/safety reasons.  (They have some unexploded shells there
    from artillery practice apparently).  The area in which we hunted in
    was no worse than hunting outside the Quabbin during the season, which
    is not saying much, so you felt kind of crowded.  I don't recall going
    more than 150 - 200 yards before running into someone else.  Things I 
    didn't like was you have to check in before you go hunting.  We got
    there around 5am and I think I was number 599 from the length of the
    line. We finally got checked in around 8am and got on some kind of
    stand by 8:45 since most of the good ones were taken. 
    
    	In terms of safety  I did not feel too comfortable with the amount
    of hunters and the possibility of walking into the wrong area.  (I 
    accidently did when I was tracking a deer in the snow. Walked into the
    dud round area before I realized it.  Carefully backtracked out - real
    dumb on my part - excitement of the hunt.)
    
    	Would I go there again?  Didn't like it then - doubt if I would
    like it know.