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| 989.1 | Love them BLR's | FLYSQD::NIEMI | I'm the NRA,ILA,GOAL | Wed Jul 17 1991 11:06 | 6 |
| You said you have a BLR in 308. Just go out and get another one
in 30-06. Browning now makes them in the long action. You are already
used to a BLR so a new one should fill the bill nicely.
sjn
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| 989.2 | now if I could just talk you into a .270 ;^) | KNGBUD::LAFOSSE | | Wed Jul 17 1991 11:43 | 76 |
| Pete,
Guns and Ammo (August 91) just had an article on America's Classic
Hunting Rifles... They talked about 3 of them, which you happened to
mention. The Remington Mod 700, the Ruger Mod 77, and the Winchester
Mod 70.
the article goes on to talk about the differences and similarities of
each... their bolts/recievers/triggers etc...
Receivers:
The Remington is Milled from a solid piece of 4140 chrome-moly bar
stock. The receiver is round and the lug is a seperate piece of steel
clamped between the face of the receiver and the barrel, allowing for
easy/tight bedding, and more contact surface.
The Winchester is machined from a forged billet of chrome-moly. The
received is flat bottomed, and has an integral lug, which is more
difficult to bed. Winchester uses thermoplastic to get a tight fit.
The Ruger receiver is investment cast, with a small recoil lug and a
flat bottom on the receiver. Ruger uses an angled front bedding screw
to pull the down and back into the stock to firmly seat it in the
stock.
triggers: all 3 are override designs with adjustment for weight of
pull. the Remington is enclosed, and the better of the 3.
Bolts:
All 3 models are guided for smother movement, all three employ 2 large
front located Mauser style locking lugs. All 3 utilize a plunger style
ejector set in the bolt face. bot the rem and win are machined from
bar stock, each having an different number of seperate peices which
makeup the bolt assembly. The ruger is investment cast.
Ruger uses a large non-rotating exractor claw, made famous by Mauser,
but it does not provide controlled feeding like the mauser. The
cartridge is simpley pushed ahead of the bolt, like the Rem and Win.
The extractor slips over the case rim as the round chambers.
Safety's:
Both the Rem and Ruger use a 2 position safety, while the Win has the
time tested "3 position" safety. All are well engineered.
Receivers are drilled and tapped for scope mounting on both the Rem and
Win. but the Ruger is milled to accept Ruger rings, which is initially
cheaper because they ship the rings with each gun, but does not allow
the shooter to use the mounts of his choice.
Stocks:
All three come in a variety of different models which should fit
anyones need. It's all up to personal preference.
Read the article if you get a chance.
How bout the Weatherbys??? they make a couple of models in the $600
price range. they don't have the Famous Mark 5 action, but the Howa
action they do use is really sweet.
Personally if I could afford it i'd opt for the Mark 5, it's the most
rakish styled stock of all the bolts available (my opinion), very
sleek, but not for everyone. Others prefer the classic straight stock.
Remington, has a whole slew of styles to choose from.... check out a
mountain rifle!
good luck! fra
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| 989.3 | Good info. What about the A-bolt? | HYEND::POPIENIUCK | | Wed Jul 17 1991 12:39 | 26 |
| .1 Yeah, another BLR would be nice, but an even easier way would just
be to put a scope on the existing .308. I love the BLR too and it has
served me well since I got it in 1973 (Only $169 back then!!), but then
I wouldn't have an excuse to get another rifle, would I.
.2 Thanks much. Lots of good info there and I'll pick up that
magazine issue. I hadn't thought of Weatherby, because I sort of just
figured they'd be all way out of my price range. I'll check a bit
further.
How about the Browning A-bolt? Anyone with experience on them in
comparison to these previously mentioned? I've had real good luck with
the two Brownings I have (The BLR and a 1963 version of the 12 ga. A-5.
I'd tell you what I paid for the 12 ga. back in '63, but I don't want
to make anyone cry.)
By the way, of all the brands mentioned, my leaning at this point
anyway, is towards the Winchester. My wife's uncle has one that I've
handled and it's a beauty.
I also need to visit a shop where I can get my hands on all these to
see which one feels the best.
But the feedback here from personal experience can't be beat. Thanks.
Any more welcome too. Pete
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| 989.4 | | SA1794::CHARBONND | in disgrace with fortune | Wed Jul 17 1991 13:03 | 15 |
| Take a good look at all of 'em and let your lust be your guide ;-)
Seriously, have you decided whether you want wood or synthetic
stock? Blue ir stainless? Are looks more important than function,
or vice versa?
I don't see what an '06 can do that a 308 can't, most especially
if you don't handload. Have you considered a short-action in 308,
so you have two guns using the same ammo ? Take a look at the
Remington short-action Mountain Rifle, the Remington Model 7,
the Browning Micro-Medallion, and see if they don't stir your soul.
Ain't shopping fun? ;-) ;-)
Dana
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| 989.5 | Not to get off track but... | DECWET::HELSEL | Legitimate sporting purpose | Wed Jul 17 1991 13:22 | 12 |
|
If I were picking a rifle for "out west" I would consider rounds other
than the .30-06 such as .300 Winchester mag, .300 weatherby mag, .280,
.270 etc. The .30-06 is not much better than your .308 for distance.
As for selecting a new rifle, I usually visit gun shops for a year
until one jumps right off the shelf and into my hands. Then I drive
around for a few days trying to figure out how I could ever afford it.
Then I go back and buy it......on the way to the range.
/brett
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| 989.6 | more info to chaw on! | KNGBUD::LAFOSSE | | Wed Jul 17 1991 13:26 | 39 |
| up in VT at our camp we have a real good mix of bolt actions, as well
as other actions for backup or just for special occasions. But we all
hunt exclusively with bolt actions. heres a sampling of what our camp
uses... all with very good results, no problems and no breakdowns.
Rem 700 BDL 308
(2) Rem 700 BDL 270
Rem 700 ADL 270
Weatherby Mark 5 30-06
Browning Abolt hunter 30-06
Browning Abolt medallion 308
Custom built 270 (700 action)
Winchester pre-64 mod 70 308
Custom built 243 (mauser action)
Browning BAR 308
And this year there will be a new addition to the "family", a custom
300H&H!! ;^)
Backups:
Marlin 336-C 30-30
Rem Mod 7600 30-06
Rem Mod 7400 30-06
Winchester 30-30 (ranger)
Mossberg 500 12 guage
Ithaca deerslayer 12 guage
Browning B80 12 guage
Browning Auto-5 12 guage
as you can se we have a pretty good assortment of hardware, but by and
large we really stick with the bolt actions. None have given anyone
any problems, it's mostly a matter of taste...
The Remingtons however, have the most rounds put thru them, as the
users of these do more shooting than the rest.
Fra
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| 989.7 | .02 | SKIVT::WENER | | Wed Jul 17 1991 13:42 | 13 |
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RE -.1
So does that mean the Remingtons are less accurate than the rest,
harder to sight in, or are the hunters better ?? :') I won't even
ask who's going to use the 300 H&H. As for me and rifles.. Chalk
another vote up for Weatherby Bolt - VGL in .308 to be exact. But
that doesn't help with the '06 questions. And you're absolutely
right (someone in here) about distance and .308 vs. 30-06. That's
why I bought a .308, short, fast action with punch comparable to
an '06.
- Rob FWIW
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| 989.8 | Decisions Decisions | HYEND::POPIENIUCK | | Wed Jul 17 1991 15:11 | 25 |
| This is all real good info. Thanks. More welocme too. As to some of
the questions... Synthetic vs. wood. I don't want to offend anyone,
but for me, I'd never consider synthetic no matter how good looking,
durable, or weight difference. Just personal taste. Blue or
stainless? Blued, absolutley. I think there was another question
about for hunting or for shooting/show. Hunting first, show/looks
second, but definitely not a "plain Jane" looker.
About the .308 vs. .30-06 issue. I originally got the BLR in 308
because at that time you couldn't get the same gun in 06 and you're
right about them being virtually the same in terms of ballistics. I've
just sort of always had this hankering for an 06. And to the .270/.280
followers, I know any gun/caliber is only as good as the person behind
it, but I am a believer in anything perhaps a bit over done is better
than possibly a bit underdone. And since it might be another 15 years
or so before I get another rifle (I hope it's not that long), I think
I'll opt for the bigger punch. I can see this new rifle being maybe
another .308. Heck, it brought down my moose in one shot.
Still haven't seen a comparison of any of the rifles listed versus the
Browning A bolt. Is that because there isn't a comparison to be made?
To the person that said Ain't shopping fun? Yeah, boy this is a real
tough problem to solve. Maybe one rifle this year and one next?
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| 989.9 | | PERFCT::PAPPALARDO | A Pure Hunter | Wed Jul 17 1991 15:17 | 17 |
|
CAL WT.GRS BULLET VELOCITY @100YDS ENERGY-F00T POUNDS
FEET PER SEC @100YDS
280 165 S.P.CORELOKT 2510 2308
308 165 " " " 2440 2180
3006 165 " " " 2534 2532
300 H&H 180 " " " 2640 2785
Mag.
Any major difference??????
Rick
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| 989.10 | FWIW | GLDOA::BARTON | I`d rather be snowmobiling | Wed Jul 17 1991 15:24 | 14 |
| I just bought the Winchester 70 in 30-06 last year. Personally I like
it alot. I`ve got the wooden stock. The rifle is light, accurate, and I
think it looks good too.
About the only thing I might change on it would be to add a recoil
pad.
It`s my first NEW rifle, and hopefully will last me for a while!!
jeff b.
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| 989.11 | more food for thought | ELMAGO::CGRIEGO | | Wed Jul 17 1991 18:56 | 10 |
| I own a .270 bolt and I'm more than confident that I can take any
kind of game we've got down here in New Mexico, (elk, mullies, black
bear, antelope, oryx, ibex, mountain lion etc......), but you seem
to be pretty much against this, so I'll suggest the 7mm mag. which
also has a pretty flat trajectory out at long ranges and packs a
pretty good punch, I don't think that the recoil from this caliber
will leave you any more bruised than a .06, and there seems to be
a pretty good selection of factory loads.
Carlos
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| 989.12 | Win. Mod. 70 Featherweight | SALEM::MACGREGOR | | Thu Jul 18 1991 09:06 | 10 |
| I have owned both a .308 and a 30/06 and there is a difference out past
200 yards in the 2 and I will only go with a 30/06 from now on. As for
a Winchester (which I had in an /06) I would opt for a Model 70
Featherweight. Real nice rifle and very light too, looks great also.
Top it with a Leupold Vari-X III in 2.5X8 Variable and you have one
great rifle, IMHO. The safety on a Winchester is by far better than a
Remington or Ruger as it blocks the bolt rather than the trigger which
I also think is much safer. But I will also make a plea for the
Browning Stainless Stalker. Nice ALL weather rifle.
bret
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| 989.13 | I wouldnt trade my model 70 for anything. | USRCV1::GEIBELL | KING FISHING ON LAKE ONTARIO | Thu Jul 18 1991 14:38 | 34 |
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Pete,
I bought a winchester model 70 light weight 30-06, 4 years ago, it
has the laminatedd stock, I put a bushnell 3-9 BDC scope on it, it has
the varmit barrel ( no iron sights).
I love the gun I was going to get it in a wood stock, but after
talking with my stepdad, he has a pre 64 mdl 70 wood stock and if you
go out on a wet day he might as well take a slingshot because thats
about how good his chances are at hitting something.
He put a synthetic stock on it and he can now drive roofing nails
at 100 yrds no matter what the weather is like. My gun is light to
carry all day, is more acurate than I can shoot it, although it bounces
me pretty hard.
I was kinda sceptical about the BDC of the scope, on the range I
messed around with it with marginal success, then a couple years ago
I set it up to 200 yrds for a shot at a deer and the bullet hit right
where the crosshairs were.
the shot was with a 150 gr silvertip 30-06 FACTORY load federal, it
hit the deer (big doe) right in the chest between the front shoulder
blades(she was facing me) the bullet completely seperated the front
shoulder from the body, the only thing holding it was the skin, we
found this out when I skinned it down.
Its all a matter of personal opinion but take a look at the
laminated stocks, explore all your options before you make a big
investment. And as stated in a previous note you wont find a better,
safer gun than the bolt actions, and the safety features on the model
70 bolt cant be beat IMHO.
Lee
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| 989.14 | featherweight, not for me | KNGBUD::LAFOSSE | | Thu Jul 18 1991 15:44 | 12 |
| I have nothing against the winchesters... and if they had one in the
caliber i wanted, i'd go with one... but opting for the featherweight
in a 30-06 is not my idea of a easy shooting rifle... One of Pete's
criteria was for something he could shoot comfortably. they must make
a different model that would be a little easier on the shoulder?!
JMHO, Fra
Still like the mountain rifle for style and looks...
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| 989.15 | brownings | KNGBUD::LAFOSSE | | Thu Jul 18 1991 15:46 | 6 |
| Opps, almost forgot, the 60 degree bolt throw on the browning is
something to really look into, tried one out and they are sweet... I
just don't like the styling on the fore-end tip... I prefer the
Weatherby look at the tip.
Fra
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| 989.16 | Good article in August Outdoor Life. | HYEND::POPIENIUCK | | Fri Jul 26 1991 14:07 | 32 |
| Just thought I'd enter a follow up. I've gotten many replies of useful
info from many in here. One of the most useful though was not from
here and I thoguht others might benefit. The most recent (August)
issue of Outdoor Life has an article concerning balistics, velocity,
and impact power and their interrelationships. This article was super.
While its content might be basic stuff to more knowledgeable folks than
me, it was an eyeopener.
Essentially it explained why "bigger isn't always better". For
example, it seems pretty much common sense that a .30 cal. bullet
traveling at X velocity has an impact of Y ft. lbs. of energy and if
you double the weight of the bullet and keep all other factors constant
that you get 2 times Y ft. lbs. of energy. (I know there are other
factors that DO enter in, but I'm keeping it simple; so I can
understand it ;^).
What I didn't realize was that if instead of doubling the weight of the
bullet, you double the velocity of the SAME bullet, you increase the
energy at impact by a factor of 4 times! Or, looking at it another
way, even a relatively small increase in velocity, can yield a very big
return in energy. (Ain't physics great! I wish I remembered more of
it from college.)
Again, I realize that there are lots of other factors, such as distance
and velocity lost due to air friction, etc. But this article addressed
this too. The article was great and simple enough to understand. I'd
urge others to read it also.
My reason for mentioning it in here is that it is changing my views on
wanting the '06. For what I'm looking for, maybe a roughly .30 cal.
magnum better suits. And my shoulder could take the hit I'm sure.
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| 989.17 | | SA1794::CHARBONND | forget the miles, take steps | Fri Jul 26 1991 16:43 | 11 |
| re.16 There's a flip side to that - if two bullets weigh the same,
and start with the same muzzle velocity, but one is more
aerodynamic, the more aerodynamic bullet will retain velocity,
and thus retain energy proportional to the *square* of the
improved velocity. Put in practical terms, a 280 Remington with
150 grain bullets, at 2700 fps, hits harder than a 30-'06 with
the same 150/2700 at long range because of the better ballistics
of the slightly thinner bullet. At closer ranges you wouldn't
notice the difference.
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| 989.18 | Go for the Gusto | DESERT::HORN | | Mon Aug 05 1991 19:35 | 8 |
| My choice is a Styer Manlicher. I have two of those and they are
the best (also the best price, $$$). Anything from .270 to .300wm will
work well. I have just about one of everything from .22 to .340
Weatherby Mag. I find myself using the gun that functions the
smoothest within a range of caliburs that I want to use on the hunt.
Go for a Styer with a Zeiss scope.
Scott
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| 989.19 | Made my choice and happy with it. | HYEND::POPIENIUCK | | Tue Aug 06 1991 08:48 | 18 |
| I guess I'll wrap this one up since I'm the one that started the note.
After a lot of advice and good help from several noters, I bought a
good used Remington BDL 7mm magnum. I had my reservations about the
whack I'd take in the shoulder having nver shot magnums before, but
after a few rounds I was pleasantly surprised. Not too bad a jolt
after all. (And besides, any time I've fired at game, the autopilot
goes on and I've never once felt the kick anyway.)
From studying the charts, the advice received, and also from reading
that article in Outdoor Life, I'm real happy with my choice. The rifle
is topped with a Redfield 3x9. I'm confident that this rifle/caliber
will do anything I ask of it.
I still don't have that '06, but maybe when I get a few more bucks
together..........???????
Pete
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| 989.20 | Howa 7mm REM MAG | LUDWIG::BING | Criminal control NOT gun control | Tue Aug 06 1991 11:53 | 13 |
|
Pete,
like you I was looking at the 30-06's and found a Savage 110B that
I really liked. Dont ask me how but a 7mm REM MAG is now in my gun
cabinet. I had ALOT of reservations about buying that gun. I really
wanted an 06 but after reading up on the 7mm I think I did the right
thing. I can load it to shoot 100 gr hollow points and turn right
around and shoot an elk with the same gun. (Different load of course).
I find the recoil isn't too bad and really prefer to shoot it over
my model 11, 12 gauge. I have some data on handloads, if you want it
write me off-line and I'll get it to you.
WB
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| 989.21 | | SA1794::CHARBONND | revenge of the jalapenos | Thu Aug 08 1991 14:08 | 4 |
| In practical terms, there really isn't a lot of difference
between a 7mm Mag. and an '06. Out past 300 yards the 7mm
has better ballistics/velocity & energy retention, but unless
you hunt mule deer in the open it's not important.
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| 989.22 | Pre-64 Winchester question.. | WEPUBS::HELMREICH | | Tue Dec 17 1991 18:25 | 18 |
|
I've been looking at a number of new 30-06 bolt actions (Ruger,
Remington, Savage, etc.), and today I ran across a pre-64 Winchester Model 70
Featherweight in (what I consider) superb condition - very tight, very little
wear.
According to a blue-book on guns, the avg. retail is ~700, and this
one is $595. It was made between '52 and '63; I didn't write down the serial
number, so I don't know the date. Is 595 a reasonable price for this?
In spite of it's collector status, I plan to mount a scope and use it
for hunting. Any comments on this? Is it the "wrong" gun for any reason?
It appeals to me because of it's sweet action, and historical value. None of
the newer guns have leaped out and said "buy me" like this one ;-). These don't
turn up all that often, and I'd hate to miss out, if this is it.
Steve
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| 989.23 | Buy it, use it, love it | DECALP::HOHWY | Just another Programmer | Wed Dec 18 1991 02:02 | 44 |
|
Steve, the pre-64 M70 is one heck of a rifle - in particular
in the Featherweight configuration! I have not had a whole lot
of experience with pre-64 M70 prices, but I have been looking
a bit of late - albeit at mostly fairly expensive sources. The
prices I have come across basically start around 550-600, top
prices are considerably above that (although most of those seem
to be the heavier calibers like .375 H&H, new-in-box etc).
As you will know, the pre-64 M70 differs in its basic design from
the post-64 M70 in the following points: conical breech (makes
the action very smooth, probably not as strong or as great for
gas-handling as the Mauser breeching system), claw extractor
(that lovely feeding mechanism!), standing ejector (much to be
preferred). As you say, it is a sweet action!
Without actually having seen anything to this effect, I would
venture a guess that the mid-50's was a GREAT time for pre-64
M70 to have been built. I suppose you have guessed whether I
would buy the rifle by now... :-) (Btw, if you don't want it,
will you give me a call...? :-)
Now to the hardest question: mount scope and use it as opposed
to just keeping it as a collectible? In the end it has to be
your decision, I just know what I would do. Since the gun is
not new-in-box, and since I appreciate working rifles, I would
turn it into my most beloved (and maybe a bit pampered) hunting
rifle. I would mount a 1'st class scope (a Leupold Vari III-x
2.5-8 springs to mind) in first class mounts to ensure quality
of the package throughout. I know some people will disagree with
me, but inspite of all the dings and scratches hunting guns tend
to get, that for me is part of the purpose, and although I love
looking at wall-hangers, the fact that they are not used somehow
seem to detract from their attraction for me. Besides, if you look
after your gun carefully, it will be just fine. If I was *really*
worried about the stock, I might consider a cheap aftermarket
synthetic for hunting purposes (<100$).
I say: buy it (now!), use it, love it! I doubt if you'll find
an equivalent opportunity next week. :-)
- Mike
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| 989.24 | I wouldnt even hesitate to buy it....where is this gun anyways? | USRCV1::GEIBELL | KING FISHING ON LAKE ONTARIO | Wed Dec 18 1991 09:08 | 31 |
|
Being the very proud & happy owner of a 30-06 post 64 m70 win.
lightweight, I would have to say that the gun you are looking at is
one of the finest on the market and in its day it was probably the best
gun made., My uncle has several pre 64 m70's .270, 30-06 , and I
believe a 22-250. he loves all of them although his best deer rifle he
claims is his beloved 220 swift. and believe me he has shot more deer
with that gun than I will ever shoot!
But back to the subject at hand, as I said, the gun you are looking
at is a fine firearm, and a good price to boot, now the only draw back
to a featherweight 30-06 is the RECOIL, I dont know how big you are but
I wigh in at about 160 lbs and when I touch mine off I move about a
foot and a half back (as my neighbor says) recoil doesnt bother me but
I will tell you that gun of mine is not a pleasant gun to shoot during
the summer!
But that being the only drawback to a featherweight, I would never
let that make the decision to buy a gun or not! and you will love it
even more after a long day of hunting. and as far as I am concerned
about a stock's looks, I have had my gun for 4 years, have done alot of
hunting with this gun and the gun looks brand new! if you use it to
clear brush then thats what the gun will look like, but if you take
care of the gun it will last a lifetime with very few battle scare's.
Just my $.02 worth
Lee
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| 989.25 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | Turning Circles | Wed Dec 18 1991 09:16 | 10 |
| Winchester has reintroduced the pre-64 action in some 1990s guns. They have
a version of the M70 with the pre-64 action; they call it super grade or
something. It has the 24" barrel as opposed to the standard 22", since
apparently that's how it used to be. They did a write-up on the thing in a
recent hunting magazine (I think it may have been Petersen's Hunting), and were
shooting roughly minute of angle groups. The suggested retail is $995.
I'll try to remember to find the magazine and put any relevant info in here.
The Doctah
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| 989.26 | Ramblings about a favorite subject :-) | DECALP::HOHWY | Just another Programmer | Wed Dec 18 1991 11:32 | 78 |
|
Re: New M70 Super Grade. This "re-done" pre-64 action
was put into the Winchester catalog after it had been
established that customers were prepared to pay premium
prices for re-made pre-64 actions, e.g. Dakota 76 and
Kimber 89 - not mentioning they seem to have gone broke :-(.
(My interpretation).
The idea of the re-introduction of the pre-64 M70
features: conical breech, claw extractor, standing
ejector, is said to have grown out of US Repeating
Arms collaboration with David Miller (of Tucson) in
the project to create the SCI "Big Five" Rifles - a set
of 5 super showpieces auctioned off at consecutive
SCI conferences (or whatever they call them). These
rifles - of which atleast one of David Miller's two
entries were built on a USRA re-done pre-64 actions -
were auctioned off at ever increasing prices - over
100.000 $ for the last one.
After that project, USRA supplied David Miller with a
number of re-done pre-64 actions which he went on to
use in his custom rifle operation. Finally, the general
public was offered a M70 Super Grade in 1989 or
1990. Originally the gun was offered in a production
grade model in 7 mm Mag, .300 Win Mag and .338 Win Mag.
In addition it could be had in various USRA custom shop
configurations, including chamberings .375 H&H, .458 Win Mag
and .416 Rem Mag (all for less than $2000 - steal, eh?:-)
This year, USRA offered the Super Grade in the "standard"
non-magnum calibers: .30-06, .270. ... (?). As far as I
know, the non-magnums are offered with a barrel length
of 22" as opposed to the 24" of the magnums. Otherwise,
stock and everything else seems much the same.
The two major differences between the Super Grade and
the pre-64 M70 are:
- the Super Grade has retained the "anti-bind" feature
of the late post-64 M70 rifles, a small lip cut under
the left (seen from above) locking lug. This as opposed
to some pre-64 M70 with a guiding rib on the bolt body.
- The Super garde has gotten a new gas-block added
to seal off the left bolt lug raceway in case of a
pierced primer or case rupture. This is supposed to
take care of the oldest criticism of the pre-64 M70:
it's weakness in handling escaping gasses. On some
pre-64 M70 you might find a similar looking device.
It is said to be a bolt stop for rifles chambered
for cartridges shorter than standard 30-06 type.
I actually bought a M70 Super Grade in May 1991 in .300
Win Mag. Those of you that went to Corky Towle's Mini
Schuetzenfest may have had a chance to try it out. Basically
it is a very nice gun, good looking classical lines,
good but not fancy wood. The rifle shot like a dream straight
out of the box, but... the action definitely needed
some polishing to become really slick, the barrel channel
had been cut crooked and would have caused havoc on point
of impact if it had gotten wet. All minor problems which
Corky sorted out for me. I know I'll get to like the gun
(I am expecting to receive it just one of these days -
why are my hands trembling :-), but as I mentioned, don't
expect it to come straight from the factory without those
little snafu's which production guns seem cursed with
these days.
Personally, I would prefer a pre-64 M70 as opposed to
a Super Grade if I could find one that suited my tastes,
budget etc. If not for any other reason then because
the pre-64 model has more historical interest. If my
tastes ran to a new gun, I would look real hard at the
new Super Grade...
- Mike
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| 989.27 | re .22 BUY IT!!! | RIPPLE::CORBETTKE | | Wed Dec 18 1991 11:39 | 1 |
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| 989.28 | Thanks... | WEPUBS::HELMREICH | | Thu Dec 19 1991 18:47 | 6 |
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I did. Thanks for all your information and advice - it was most helpful in
convincing me to abuse my Visa card in this way.
Steve
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| 989.29 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | A Day at the Races | Fri Dec 20 1991 09:28 | 11 |
| > As far as I
> know, the non-magnums are offered with a barrel length
> of 22" as opposed to the 24" of the magnums.
I agree with everything else you said except this. According to the article
in Petersen's _Hunting_, the barrel length is 24" even in the non-magnum
calibers.
Sounds like quite a piece. I want one! :-)
Mebbe some day...
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