Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    Does anyone out there have a VR modified or full choke barrel for
    an Ithaca model 37 they'd be interested in selling?  I'd be willing
    to pay a fair price based on condition.  Please reply by responding
    to this note or by contacting me directly on PARSEC::DAVIS or by
    calling DTN: 247-2131.
    
    				Thanks,
    				Tom Davis

    Ok guys, I need help. I had to put my dog down a couple of months
    ago, and the female that my brother's friend was going to breed
    got stolen. 
    		I'm looking for a english springer spaniel pup. I
    want a female no more than 9 weeks old, and from a hunting blood
    line only. I've checked out Grouse Wing, and Hedgerow kennels, they
    don't have any available right now. Yes I know there's a canine
    conference also.
    
    Thanks
      Jim

    Your best bet will be to contact one of the field stock.
    
    I don't have the all the information but the names
    
    Bob king in RI.
    Dennis Quinn  Scarboro Maine
    Joe and frances Ruff, Conn.
    Garry Wilson From N.J.
    
    As a matter of fact there must be loads of names in
    Springer on the Line.
    
    I will be out all week so some one else will have to
    dig up the telephone numbers or wait until I return to work.

    Search is over, I bought a pup last night from Mike Aho's litter.
    
    Thanks to everyone
    Jim

    Unfortunately, I can't help with original request.  I was just
    wondering why it was entered twice on separate days?!  Did I
    miss something?
    
    Confused
    
    :�|

    
    Check out the firearms file. I seem to remember a 30-30 marlin for
    sale.
    
    
                                       Rick...............

    In the Manchester paper, there is a Marlin 30-30 for sale for $150.
    The phone number is (603)669-5140. Just for your information, this
    person is also selling a Ruger 44 carbine w/scope for $325.
    
    
    
    Mike

    I am looking for a 3 to 5 hp outboard motor either new or used.
    
      If you know of one I would appreciate hearing from you.
    
    
                Frank McFarland   223-1166
    
                                 iswiss::mcfarland
    

    Does anyone know where I can get my 30-30 brass reloaded  here in
    Colordao Springs.  I understand all the disclaimers and warnings about
    having someone else do it.
    
    I am not looking for "hot" loads.  I just want to get consistant
    accurate rounds for deer hunting.  I have a lot of 30-30 brass and I
    would like to re-use it, but I don't want to invest in all the
    equipment for doing it myself.  I would be interested in negoiating on
    price or am open to trade.
    
    +- Mark
    
    ps.  I am posting this in the following notes files:
    
    COLORADO
    COLORADO_CLASSIFIEDS
    FIREARMS
    HUNTING

    I reload and will be willing to do it for you if you bore the costs
    of the components, shipping etc. I do not know the legalities involved
    so check it out first. I must have 500 .30-30 cases and no .30-30
    to shoot them in. Give me a call @ dtn 431-2796.
    
    dick

    	Not trying to be a wet blanket, but my brother was visited by
    the Gestapo...errr BATF and they tried to get him to say that he
    was reloading for other people. They said that this could be
    interpreted as selling ammo without an FFL. Also there are possible
    liability problems. I also reload and do a lot of 30-30s, but the
    above is the reason that I didn't offer to do it.
    
    	George

    RE:  < Note 254.2 by GENRAL::BOURBEAU >

    You're absolutely right!  I do not want to get anyone in trouble and
    hope that those who offer, indeed have their FFL; OR; they might let me
    do the reloading with their equipment. ;-)
    
    +- Mark

    
    
    	I'm looking for a Remington 788 rifle in .30-30 it doesn't
    have to be "pretty" a "beater" will do just fine as I'll be
    using just the action...
    
    
    		Any leads are appreciated...
    
    
    				~Mike~

    There was a guy talking about selling a Remington 742 in the
    firearms file about 8 months ago.  His price was high but he
    said it was negotiable.  You might try over there.
    
    There's a guy named Ed Gianetto who once told me he couldn't hit
    the broad side of a barn with his and no longer wanted it.  You
    may try asking him on PARITY::GIANETTO.  
    
    I have one in .30-06 and I think it's great.  It has a nice short
    barrel for ducking under tress, yet it is very accurate.  It is
    fairly light, so it kicks pretty good.
    
    Brett.

    Would appreciate any help locating a used Savage over/under .22/20
    gauge. Please reply here or call DTN 266-4430 and ask for Jim Winters.
    Thank you for your support.

    light? I must have the heavy version...I the 06 model as well. I
    think my arms are an inch longer from lugging it up and down those
    Vermont hills. I just had a sling put on it for next year.
    
    
    Good choice...
    
    Guy

   If you're buying a used one, be careful. The 742 has a tendency to 
develop cracks in the bolt slide rails of the receiver. This happens
more often than not. Additionally, the locking lugs of the bolt dig 
into the receiver when the bolt is thrust back after firing. The more
the rifle is fired, the deeper the grooves. In severe cases, I'm told
the bolt can lock up in those grooves. If you're unsure what to look 
for, consult a competent gunsmith. Remington did ECO the problem. The
rifle is now called the model 4, model 7400 and a Sportsman version is
offered. The model 7400 is available in carbine form.

					Mike

   Don't know where you're located Jim, but you might want to try
Kittery Trading Post in Kittery, Maine. 
   Savage went "belly up" recently and Kittery bought quite a large 
amount of their guns as well as some one of a kind prototypes. Rumor
has it that Kittery acquired over 600 Savage long guns. I've seen
probably every combo of Savage O/U rifle/shotgun on display there 
and they still have many more stored downstairs. 
   Give them a call at 207-439-2700.

					Mike

    Jim, if you head up to Kittery, you may also want to try LaRue's
    Firearms in Portsmouth, NH.  They are about 300 yards from the
    Portsmouth traffic circle and their number is 603-436-2225.  They
    don't have the inventory that KTP has, but they will certainly point
    you in the right direction.
    
    Mark.

    re: .2
    
    Well, it's light for a semi.  Of course, bolt actions are lighter.
    I have an H&K weightlifter's model 770 and it weighs a ton.  That's
    .308....the .30-06 version is a pound heavier!!  My friend has a
    BAR that is chambered for .270 and it weighs about the same as my
    H&K and sure feels heavier than my 742.    Then again, my 742 has
    the short barrel.
    
    BTW, I understand the 7400 jams a lot.  I've seen this first hand.
    I've fired my 742 quite a bit and it has never jammed.  
    
    When we were antelope hunting this year my partner fired his first
    shot at a buck from his BAR .270.  I was done hunting and I was
    helping him hunt.  As I watched the shot go between the bucks legs
    I kept thinking to myself "shoot!  Shoot!".  There was this 5 second
    delay (200 yards in antelope terms) and finally he shot (and missed).
    I asked him what took him so long and he said his browning jammed
    again.
    
    Brett.

    Brett,
      Was your buddy using factory ammo or reloads?
    
    Jeff

    He was using factories from Winchester.
    
    I use reloads in all my guns but my 20 gauge because I don't
    shoot it enough.  
    
    Shame.  It was a nice buck.
    
    Brett.

      I hunt with 7 guys and 2 of them have these carbines.
    
    Nate Mitchell a Maine guide uses one and the owner of the camp 
      that we go to has one. Nate says he loves it... It is a nice
    rifle and is also an excellent brush gun.
    
    
            400.00  isn't bad if you got the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    
    jeff

    
    If any New Yorker could spare a copy of the "Big Game Law Book"
    from your state it would be greatly appreciated.
    
    My hunting party and I are seriously considering hunting deer there
    in 89. I'm thinking or the southwest area as 1st choice and southeast
    as 2nd. 
    
    If anyone can spare this years law book please send it via inter-office
    mail to.
    
                                    Rick Pappalardo
                                    MKO1-1/D25
    
               Thanks,
    
                Rick......
    

    
    All set on the Law-Book thanks to Jeff Amberson.
    
    Rick....

         Rick concider the nothern zone, the season is six weeks long
    instead of three and the deer are bigger with better antler 
    development. If you like hunting mountains like me the Adirondacks
    are great.
    
    BRUCE

    Also, the muzzleloading season is the week before the main rifle
    season and the archery season is the three weeks before blackpowder.
    
    	*****"""""Ten Weeks of Deer Hunting""""*****
    
    The Rifle season starts next to the last saturday in October and
    goes through the first sunday in December.
    
    The Muzzleloader season is the seven day period before this.
    
    The Archery season is September 27 through the the friday immediately
    preceeding the next to the last saturday in October.
    
    (I copied this out of my 1986-87 Big game guide. Didn't have my
    latest one with me but the muzzleloader started on Oct. 15 and the
    rifle on Oct. 22 this year so I don't think anything has changed.)
    
    John
    

    
    Bruce,
    
    Thanks for the Northern Zone info. What I'm looking for is numbers
    (I want to PLAY!!) Want to be able to try out some deer calls and
    such to see the reaction of the deer, maybe I'll learn something.
    If I did this in my homestate of N.H. or in Maine I doubt I would
    be able to experiment as you don't get to many chances up here.
    I mean if a deer steps out of the hemlocks in N.H and Maine I think
    there lost. As far a large deer with racks I'll Hunt N.H. as I feel
    we have much better sized deer here. So as you can see N.Y. is
    something new and exciting, with all the storys ive heard I,m anxious
    to see many many deer while hunting. Think It will be different,
    besides by the time N.Y. opens I should have my Big N.H. buck hanging.
    
    Thanks Again,
    Rick....... 

    Rick, if you want to see some deer (enough to be able to experiment)
    why don't you consider PA.  I know a couple of guys that go down
    every year during the archery season, and come home with stories
    of getting 10-20 shots each.... dosn't say much for their shooting
    prowess :^)....  but they say they see 20-30 each day... i kinda
    like the idea myself, cept i have all the comforts of home and then
    some up in VT.  something to think about.
    
    Fra

    
    These guns are known to jam..
    
     Get yourself a used Winchester Model 100 in .308 and that will
     be the best purchase you ever made for an auto. The gun is
    discontinued by winchester because they could not build it and sell
    it for what the 742's were being sold for. The Model 100's design
    is from the garand (spelling could be off there) and was and still
    is a great gun. You should be able to find a nice clean one for
    around $375. At any rate check it out you might find you like it.
    
    Re:7 These Maine Guides don't impress me with what they carry for
         rifles. The 742 or now Model 4 is nothing but a cheap-Auto...for
         the majority and misinformed. Its like the 30-30 its overrated
         and overused its the gun the won the west and thats about it
         all the 30-30 is good for is making a lamp out-of they should
         bury the 30-30 with Custer its time has passed.
    
    Rap......

    	Rap,
    		I think that either you don't know much about the 30-30,
    or you choose not to. I agree that for almost any game, there's
    a caliber that will do the job better, but that doesn't mean that
    the 30-30 is useless. I wish I could show you the large number of
    deer that have been and are cleanly killed with 30-30s. In past
    days, the 30-30 was found to be effective on elk and bear, and I
    wouldn't be surprised to find that some buffalo were taken with
    it.
    	The 30-30 , because of its ballistics, requires that the hunter
    be skillful in getting close, and able to accurately place his/her
    shots. It's not for the guy who hunts from a lawn chair on top of
    a hill, and shoots at targets 400-500 yards or more away.
    	I'm not suggesting that everyone, or even anyone, run out
    and buy one, but I think you're being too harsh with the old gun.
    I know several people who still use it, and seldom fail to score.
    
    	Every person to his/her choice of tools, I say. So long as he/she
    can use them well.
    
    	George
    

    
    RE:9 
    
    Oh I know all about the 30-30 and how it killed more deer than any
    other caliber. But, its been around a lot longer too.
    
    I know a lot of people like the lever-action and Im no exception,
    but when ever they ask me to get them a 30-30 I always bring up
    the 35 marlin and later they thank me for it. 
    
    With all the calibers on the market I dont understand why one would
    want the 30-30. If our calibers of today were available back then
    the 30-30 would of been history.
    
    As far as hunting close to test your skill. Why don't you make it
    real interesting and use a .444 marlin-- I do. 
    
    I respect ones choice and if that what they like more power to them.
    Its just that all you hear more from new young hunters is "I have
    a 30-30" big deal.. thats just like the 357mag it overrated---
    the word Magnum -people don't understand it- they think it the all
    mighty- They should look at the 45 long colt or other Non-Mags theird
    be surprised.
    
    Its like the 7mm mag it only has 200 more pounds of knock-down power
    than the .270 and once youv'e shot the 7mm mag over 300 rounds or
    15 boxes of ammo it loses--it only has the velocity of the 30-06.
    Most people don't know this--You think the MFG going to tell us--
    My father has been building custom rifles since the 40's we thought
    we were wrong with our finding but 6 other Smiths agreed.
    The lans in the barrel rate of twist never was perfected.. after
    300 rounds you have an 06.
    
    Better get off my soapbox-- YOU are right thou---I will and do respect
    other peoples views allways have. 
    
    Take-care and good hunting.
    
    RICK......... 

    	Thanks for the reply Rick. I do agree with what you say in general.
    If someone is asking about a first deer rifle, there are better
    choices. I guess we've both made our points. I love my Winchester
    model 94 in 30-30, and I believe that I could take a deer down with
    it, but I'd still take my 30-06. I just feel that the ol' thutty-thutty
    is OK in the right hands.
    	By the way, if I go elk hunting next year, I'm taking my CVA
    .50 percussion with buffalo bullets. I like to try to get close
    :^).
    
    	George

    Off the subject of 742, which is a perfectly fine gun:
    
    My hunting partner went back to where we had hunted Elk in Idaho.
    When we were there in October, we got rained out.  He returned
    in November during blackpowder season.  He said that he had seen
    more Elk during this week than he had ever seen in his life....
    lots of bulls.  The mountains were covered with snow and they were
    easy to track.
    
    This guy is about 40 years old and guided in Alaska for ten years.
    With his hunting experience he said that he was unable to get close
    enough to take a shot with a blackpowder gun.  Take it for what
    it's worth.
    
    He said on the last day they tried to lob some lead on one bull
    like a mortar.  The elk stood there undauted while they let about
    ten rounds go.  Never came close.
    
    My point is that if you spend the money to go on a guided elk hunt,
    which is typically around $2,000, then you might as well try it
    with a rifle where you have a decent chance.  But that's just
    one guy's philosophy.
    
    Brett.

    re.5 
          Paul, thanks for the info on Pa. 2 years ago most of our party
    did go to Penn. I'll second anyone one saying it is a fun place to
    hunt. The area Rick has sort of chosen is not very far from the Penn
    border so i'm sure there is a lot of fall out from the state line.
    
                                                       Guy

    Stan, still looking for a 742, in 30-06 ? Well , if so I have one
    that I'm looking to sell. Gimme a call, maybe we can work it out.
    
    
    	Barry

    
    Stan,
    
    Check-Out the upcoming Gun Show which is to be held 14-Jan & 15-Jan.
    I,m sure you'll find what your looking for and might even get a
    bargain to boot. Gun shows are always a nice way to spend an after-noon.
    
    GUN-SHOW:
    
    PLACE: MANCHESTER N.H. STATE ARMORY
    DATE: 1/14 AND 1/15/89
    TIME: 9am to 5pm-SATURDAY
          9am to 3pm-SUNDAY
    
    COST: $3.00- One dollar off to members of the NRA, GONH, or NHSA
    
    DIRECTIONS::  FROM MAYNARD take 495 north to 93 north to I-293
                  to Manchester N.H.
                  Go over Bridge bear right, take the Amoskeag bridge
                  exit off of I-293.       
    
    Good-Luck,
    
      Rick........
    

    Where's the armory once you take the exit? I somewhat familiar with
    Manchester, but I'm not sure where the armory is and I don't feel
    like driving around forever while other people scoop up the bargains.:-)
                                                                         
    The Doctah

    Good morning,
    
    I didn't read the directions so I assume this is the exit for
    amoskeag bridge. go right and cross over bridge and you should
    see it on the right shortly after you get off the bridge.
    
    You really cann't miss it.
    
    Bear

    EXACTLY WHAT KIND OF REMINGTON CARBINE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I HAVE
    A MODEL 742 SEMI CHAMBERED FOR THE 30-06. IT IS ELEVEN YEARS OLD
    AND IN GOOD SHAPE.
    
                                                      LYNN MC

    Stan,
    The Model 760 is the pump rifle.  The gun your looking for has been
    reintroduced recently (last year?) but only in .06.  A couple of
    my friends use the gun your looking for.  One loves his, the other
    hates his cause it jams quite a bit.  One article I read said that
    all these guns are likely to jam if you use a hot load because they
    have relatively weak extractors when compared to a bolt action.
    The author recommended hand loading down to something moderate that
    had less tendency to give you trouble.
    
    Dave
    

    I have a 742.  It has a very short barrel and says "Carbine" on
    the barrel.  My neighbor has a much longer barrel 742.  I don't
    know if it is a carbine.  Both are chambered for .30-06.
    
    As I've said, I find it very accurate for the length of the
    barrel and mine has never jammed.  FWIW.
    
    Brett.
    
    P.S.  Mine is *not* for sale.  Great gun for the price.
     

    STAN,
    
       AS STATED IN 333.8 MY 742 IS INDEED A CARBINE. THEY MADE THIS
    MODEL IN BOTH RIFLE AND CARBINE AT THE TIME. THEY DISCONTINUED THE
    CARBINE WHEN THEY WENT TO THE MODEL 74 AND 7400. THEY STARTED MAKING
    THE CARBINE AGAIN LAST YEAR CHAMBERED FOR 30-06 ONLY. AS FAR AS
    HOW THE NEW ONES WORK IN REGARDS TO JAMMING, I DON'T KNOW. HOWEVER,
    THIS WAS NEVER A PROBLEM WITH MY 742. I HAVE ALSO MADE SOME LONG
    SHOTS OF WELL OVER 200 YARDS WITH IT AND ACCURACY WAS NEVER A PROBLEM.
    I KNOW OF AT LEAST FIVE DEER THAT WOULD ATTEST TO THIS IF THEY WERE
    ALIVE TODAY.
    

    Wanted:10 Guage 00Buck
    
    
    
    
    Does anyone know where I can buy 10 guage 00 buck ammo?
    
    Thank You for the help!!
    
    Jack

    
    You would probably either have to order it thru your local dealer
    or get a copy of Shot-Gun News and check-out some of the ads.
    
    If 10ga is not listed then make some phone calls to Ammo-Houses.
    
    Good-Luck,
    
    Rick....

    
    	I added this note to Archery, but there hasn't been too much
    activity there lately :'( ....  Do any of you guys who plan to hunt
    N.Y. this fall have the Bow season dates??  A couple of us plan
    to hunt at a friend of a friends camp in the county of Delaware
    this fall.  I suspect that we can plan on it overlapping with VT's
    season?? I understand that you're allowed one deer with a bow and
    that We need to take an Archery safety course which we've signed
    up in.  I hope we can look forward to seeing lots of deer...
    
    Thanks in advance for any help!  - Rob

    Did someone post a note in here recently looking for a home for
    2 adult German Shorthair Pointers?  I know someone who is looking
    for one.  If anyone has seen such a note, could they point me in
    the right direction.
    	Linda

    
    Check Note 15.??
    

		-< WANTED: Winchester 1200 Shotgun Barrel >-
                
    I am looking for a shot barrel with or without a choke for my
    Winchester 1200 pump 12 guage. I can be reached at:
    
    		CTOAVX::EGAN or WIND::EGAN
    		DTN 320-5125 or DTN 324-4154
    
    Thanks.
    
    Rick Egan

    Looking for taxidermist items. exotic,rare,furs,rugs ect.
    Adding a poolroom to my house and would like to furnish it with
    a "different" kind of atmosphere. So if you would like to sell your
    trophies let me know.....or if you know where I could get a few
    that would be great.
    
    
     

     You may want to contact  your local Taxidermists to see if they have
    any mounts that were not picked up. Most shops take a 50% deposit for
    cases such as these.
    
                                                          Guy
    

    also if anyone decides that they just want the meat from what they
    shoot and is willing to sell the hide for tanning, contact me. I
    will send it out to be tanned.
    
    B

    check the miscellaneous section in the want-ad vertiser, I noticed 
    a buffalo head for $1,000 !!! but there were also some deer heads,
    a woodchuck and some other animals.
    
    Erik
    
    PS. would anyone out there pay 1,000 bucks for a buffalo head? not me.

    
    
    r .3
    
         I wouldn't pay a grand for any type of head!
    
    Wildman

 Yo Wildman-

 You still a bachelor? :-) :-) If not, then a grand would be getting off easy. 
:-)

 The Doctah

    
    
    Doctah,
    
         Now that you mention it...I guess that is cheap!! :-)
    
    Wildman

    Howdy,

    I'm looking to buy a used dog-trainig collar system, the remote-control
    kind.  Anyone interested or know someone interested in selling their
    setup?

    Thanks in advance,
    
        +- Mark

Give me a call at:
276-9518.



Thanks,
Bill

    Mark,
    	In GUN DOG magazine there is an ad for a place in
    Michigan called COLLAR CLINIC. They repair electronic
    collars, and you can write or call for a price/availability
    list of used reconditioned units they sell.
    
    dave

	re: -1

       I'm looking for a replacement barrel for a Harington and Richards
    Model 460 Topper Jr, 20 guage, 18".  The gun is only worth about
    $60 so I don't want to go more than that.  I can get a new one from the
    manufacturer but it is way over priced.
    
    
    Brian

    I would be interested in finding out some facts about the training
    system; ei pros and cons now that you have used the system and if it is
    worth the investment in solving dog obiedence problems..
    mike
    

    Mike,

    First of all, it is not a "cure-all".  The benefits I have of good
    basic obedience with the dogs has been the best reward.  However, I
    found myself in a situation in which, I could not correct the dog "in
    the act" by the time I got within arms-length to correct or ear-shot to
    say "no", they were no longer committing the undesirable behavior.

    Probably *the* most important thing is to let the dog wear the dummy
    collar for about a week (so that they get used to it) before you start
    correcting with the collar.  If not, they learn that they only have to
    be "good" when the collar is on, instead of learning that the behavior
    has negative results.

    The second thing is that I think you've got to be creative in how
    you're going to correct a behavior and then be consistant.  Also, pick
    one behavior to correct and stick with that one until it is modified or
    stopped.  Don't be zapping the dog everytime you want to say "no".
    If you do, you'll end up with a neurotic dog afraid of it's own shadow.
    :-)

    Also, start on the lowest setting and work up until the dog starts to
    respond.  On one of my dogs I only needed the lowest setting, but on
    my other I had to use the hottest one.

    Here's an example of how I have used it...

    One of my labs had a habit of coming up to the back door step and
    whining and scratching the door to "come in".  It was very annoying
    (especially to my wife).  So, I decided that I would pop the dog
    everytime it came to the back step (it only did the whining and stuff
    on the step).  After about 3 times, no more problem.  In fact it gives
    that step a wide berth now. :-)

    Hope this helps,
    
        +- Mark

    ps.  I bought mine used for $125.  I think it was worth it.  I'm intend-
         ing to break my other dog of chasing rabbits this summer.  :-)

    
    	I'm looking for a used H & R (now New England Firearms) 
    	style starter pistol. 

        Preferably the 8 shot 22 caliber removable cylinder.
        	
    	I'll consider a 32 caliber if the price is EXCELLENT,
    	but the cost of blank ammo for the 32 caliber is out of sight.
    
    
    	I'll pay up to $50 for a decent quality 22 caliber blank gun, 
    	less for the 32 caliber models. 
    
    	Dave  @ SHR   237-2165    home 508-582-7325
    
    	No permit is required to purchase these types of pistols
    	thru mail order, but I'm not sure about private sale.

    No permit is necessary as the barrel is not a barrel but a solid
    rod. 
    
    jeff

	I have a friend who ran into a couple misfortunes this past year
        and had to sell his shotgun. He is now looking for a used 12 gauge
        pump or double barrel. He doesn't have much money to do this in fact
        he can only afford $50-$75 for one, I know this is a tall order but 
        I figured it could'nt hurt to ask. So if any of you have an old but
        safe shotgun cheap please contact me at SCOMAN::BING and I'll put
        you in contact with my friend. Thanks.

                                  Walt

        ps It doesn't have to be chambered to take 3 inch mags or have
        a barrel that can handle steel shot. It will be primarily for 
        birds (pheasent/grouse) and deer.
    
        This is in Mass and he lives in the Woec area.

    
    anybody know of a place to pick up a plug for a Mossberg 12 ga. ?
    
    My wife got me a new toy for our anniversary (what a girl, she doesn't
    even really like guns), a used Mossberg MOdel 500 pump, thing is it
    didn't come with a plug, since I plan on using it for ducks I need 
    the plug.
    
    --Bob
    

>>                      <<< Note 55.66 by CHRLIE::HUSTON >>>
>>                             -< Any suggestions?? >-

    
>>    anybody know of a place to pick up a plug for a Mossberg 12 ga. ?


Why don't you go to your local hardware store or lumber yard and pick
up a wooden dowel rod.  5/8" ought to do it.  Then, you can cut it
to fit.  I did this for my two Winchester shotguns and it works fine.
And, it's a lot cheaper than the store bought variety.

Jerry

    WANTED
    
    Muzzleloader .50 caliber Must be in good condition
    
    Gilles Pelletier
    DTN 285-3841 or send mail SALEM::PELLETIER

    Has anyone had any experience or purchased a collar from 
    the COLLAR CLINIC? How were there prices and quality/condition 
    of the collar?
    
    Does anyone have a electronic collar for sale or know someone
    who does?

    Are there any that you would recommend or NOT recommend?
    
    Thanks,
    Michael
    
    

    Buy a Tri-Tronics
    
    

    Jeff,
    
    I just called for there brochure yesterday, in the hunting 
    catalogues there are several types, is there one that you 
    would recommend? Are the training collars with a warning
    buzzer useful? 
    
    Thanks,
    Michael

                    <<< Note 55.70 by GIAMEM::J_AMBERSON >>>

    Buy a Tri-Tronics
    
    

     Depends on what you want to acomplish with it.  Are you trying to
    teach something new?  Or are you trying to discourage a bad habit?
    They have some models which are more expensive which work at greater
    distances.  You may or may not need this.  Really depends on your
    situation.  Give us more info
    
    Jeff

I've used a Dog Radartron for about 6 years now.  It's the DT280 model, not
the new fancy one.  It's been very reliable.  I've sent it back to the makers
in Dallas, Texas, every time it needed to be repaired which has been about once
a year.  The highest charge I ever paid for a repair was $40.  

Most of the people in my training group have a Tri-Tronics.  Theirs are newer
than mine and ALWAYS in the shop in Arizona.  Their repair charges are double
mine and I think they agree with me that mine is more reliable.  One guy has 
the collar with the warning buzzer and the other one has the newer model with
the variable control long distance.  

I've heard good things about the Collar Clinic but never bought from them.  I
haven't sent them mine for repair since I've had such good results from the
manufacturer.

Sue

    Would you have the number for Dog Radartron?
    
    Thanks,
    Michael

    DOES ANY BODY HAVE A REMINGTON 20 GA THEY WOULD SELL AT A GOOD
    PRICE I NEED ONE FOR MY 9 YEAR OLD , SOMETHING WITH 26" OR 28"
    BARREL .  
                                                    THANKS
                                                      ED

 Anybody have a "dummy launcher" sitting around? My buddy is training
his field spaniel and is looking for a used dummy launcher he can pick 
up on the cheap.

 The Doctah

    I need some pigeons to train my dog with. I'll pay up to $2 each. 

    Yeah, I know where and how to get em, but I'll try the easier steps
    first.;);)


    Jim

    Looking to buy a MEC grabber 12ga and a tumbler for .35REM and 12ga
    shells..
    
    
                                              thanks, John May
    						ROYALT::MAY

Wanted - two (2) 16 gauge hulls (empty).  They're for a gun I can't shoot, 
and therefore cannot justify buying a box of shells for.   I need them to keep
the ejector lined up properly with the bbls. upon opening/closing the gun.

Any Colorado reloaders out there with a few spare 16 ga. hulls?  OR, a lead
on where I could get 16 ga. snap caps locally?

Thanks,

Steve

    
    Jerry Smith
    DTN 297-4586
    APAD3::GSMITH
    
    Wanted: My brother can't score his own, and has a spot in his gameroom
            just waiting for a rack, so he'd like to buy one. Do you have
    	    a mount in your basement just taking up space? It would have to
    	    be cheap, because you never know when 'my brother' will score
            his own and can't use two.
    
    	    Soo... If you have one you don't want.. Ah... ok it's for me       
                   :^)
    
    		Jerry 

    
    
    
        Jerry 
    
    I been thinking about your wanted ad and thought you could try this
    out.
    
    
    Look into some of the hunting magazine,look really good for a picture
    of a very very nice buck with a sizeable rack cut it out an hang it 
    on your wall.
    
    
    This should work for now,until you can replace it with the real thing.
    
    
    
    Pappy
    
    [ps]  I'am only joking.  Who knows this [could] will be your year.
    
     
                                                                         

         I'm looking for a used shotgun for woodcock, grouse, and
         pheasant hunting.

         In particular, a 12 gauge side-by-side with an English style
         stock.

         Doug Bonin

    
    	Looking for a slug barrel for a Mossberg 5500 semi auto shotgun.
    
    Name:  Fred Walsh
    DTN:   264-0245
    NODE:  SOLVIT::FWALSH
    
    
    Work in Merrimack, N.H. at MKO.
    
    

WANTED:

	Western-Winchester hunting scene print(s) from the 1950s.  These 
say "Especially Painted for Western-Winchester" in cursive along the bottom
of the print.  The prints measure ~18"x25" and have a tiny copyright date in
the lower left-hand corner.  Any topic or condition considered.  (It's for a 
gift, so anything is better than nothing at this point.)

Steve Helmreich
WEPUBS::HELMREICH
CXO1-2/7a
Hm. 593-7013


cross-posted in ::Firearms

    Hi Guys+Gals,
    	I'm looking for a shotgun for my wife. Preferably a pump 16 or 20
    gauge. Nothing extravagant yet, but something that will fit her. She
    fired a shot at a paatridge with my 870 12ga and couldn't fit it in 
    the crook of her shoulder in time and has a nasty bruise to show for
    it. Let me know posting it here or writing me at Jupitr::Butch. Thx..
    
    					Butch in SHR

    Butch,
    
    You may want to check on an 870 express in 20ga for her.  They are
    pretty cheap and even have a youth model available if she's really
    small.
    
    Wess

    Butch,
    
    I agree with Wess - I have the 870 express and like it.
    
    Christine

    
     I'm looking or a pair of the tree climbing spikes and safety belt that
    loggers use.
    
      Figure this would be a easy way to get up into tree stand/s...
    
     tks,  George
    
     

    
    
    
    George,
    
        the spikes that loggers use are calf length leather strapped
    spikes. I have 2 pairs of these, they do work nice, how ever they
    really tear up a tree. 
      
        most of the hunting catalogs (cabellas, gm, bps) all carry the
    ankle hig version of these, they are ok, i also have an old pair of
    these for when i used to do alot of coon hunting. these would be a
    better choice for use in bowhunting your own property. 
    
       I would not recomend the spikes, alot of states have stiff fines for 
    damaging trees, and as i said theese babies do some damage! you would
    be better off taking the extra 80.00 and putting that plus the $ for a
    treestand (fixed position) and purchasing one of the climbing variety.
    
       as far as a loggers style widger belt goes thats another big heavy
    leather thing to lug along, I would say that between the spikes and the 
    belt my set weighs close to 12 pounds. it wouldnt be too bad if you are
    going to be close to the road but I wouldnt want to treck to far with
    that gear + bow + stand + a change of clothes.
    
       if your dead set that this is the way to go, and you have strong
    ankles the ankle version is the was to go, they arent as sturdy but
    they do work.  just be careful, especially on really rough bark trees,
    I took down a 70 foot thorny locust tree this spring and the bark is
    real thick and rough, i thot i had a good anchor with the spike but
    when i went to start the saw the bark tore away from the tree, when
    this happens it tends to grab your attention in a hurry! 
    
    
       
                                            Lee
    

    
     Good idea....  9 out of 10 ideas I get usually end up against the
     law..
    
      I'll check with the NH fish & game.  
    
     I was thinking of the climbing tree stand but figured the spikes
    wouldn't rule out trees with branches...
    
     I'll do some directory/title = searches for tree stand / climbing
    ideas.
    
       g-
    
    
      

I have an ankle pair that are nearly brand new....


cost $70.....your's for $45 + shipping... Purchased
at Gander Mountain last summer.  Used once...

I didn't like the damage done to my favorite evergreen
stand. 

    
    	When we go to PA each guy typically sets up 2 or 3 stands, for
    a morning and afternoon tree stand during bow season. The best thing
    we found is those 3 section ladders with straps, we buy additional
    middle sections, To increase the ladder from 12 to 16 feet. You want
    to talk about easy to setup a tree stand, it takes 2 minutes to put
    the ladder up and strap it to the tree. Then up you go and put up
    the stand, Makes it nice when you have 3 stands to put up. When your
    done hunting the stand, take the ladder with you. So when you go
    back out hunting or just want to go hunt in a different stand, its
    a piece of cake. Just put the ladder up and get into the new stand.
    You also don't have to worry about sweating and creating a stronger
    odor. 
    
    Ron