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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

856.0. "Homemade stocks??" by MPGS::GIFFORD (When nature calls you have to answer) Wed Nov 14 1990 08:49

    I know this isn't exactly a "hunting" note but I  do use this gun for
    hunting. I cross posted this in FIREARMS but noone over there seems
    willing to discuss this or offer any suggestions. 
        
    I have an old Win. mod. 62 and I would like to make a new stock for it.
    The original is a tad short for me and I was considering making a
    larger one. 
    
    1. Has anyone done this before?
    
    2. What kind of wood do you recommend? Would any "hard" wood do or
    could I use clear pine, since it is only a .22?
    
    I was going to just trace the old stock and extend it and then kind of
    "carve" out the stock. I really don't know what I'm getting into here
    but it doesn't look too difficult to do, is it??
    
    Does this even sound feasable or is there after market stocks for this
    gun??
    
    Thanks for any suggestions.
    
    Cowboy
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856.1give it a shot (pun intended)LUDWIG::BINGYes, I too am the NRA/GOALWed Nov 14 1990 10:429
    
    Cowboy, I've never done anything like this but I don't see why
    it could'nt be done. If you have the tools give it a try. Since it
    is a .22 (no recoil)you could probably use a blank piece of pine. The tools
    you'll need will be a hammer, files, saw, chisel, vice, drill, 
    maybe a few other things plus lots of time. Why not give it a go
    and let us know how it turned out. 
    
                                      Walt
856.2WAHOO::LEVESQUENo artificial sweetenersWed Nov 14 1990 11:187
 I would never use pine. It's too soft, it warps, it's too knotty, and it
cracks very easily. If you dropped your gun forget it. If you really want
to make one from scratch (must be nice to have lots of free time) try using
a piece of well seasoned hardwood. Better yet, get a blank stock from a vendor
and just finish it.

 The Doctah
856.3WJOUSM::PAPPALARDOA Pure HunterWed Nov 14 1990 12:007
    
    Black-Walnut or if you want to try something local use Maple.
    
    Maple was used in the 1800's on many, not all, muzzle-loaders.
    
    Rick
    
856.4WJOUSM::PAPPALARDOA Pure HunterWed Nov 14 1990 12:013
    
    Oh yeah, don't forget it must be kilin dried
    
856.5BRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottWed Nov 14 1990 12:1120
    
    I'm not so sure about the kiln dried - most top grade stocks are made
    from naturally dried wood (it sometimes takes 20 years to mature a
    blank).
    
    Commercially blanks are rough cut by means of a machine called a
    duplicating router. I borrowed one a while back with a view to buying
    one to make stocks, but decided I was over committed to get into that
    work. Anyway you start with a fitted stock (the one you take off the
    rifle) and use the duplicator to cut the blank so that it rough fits
    the gun. You then duplicate as much of the outside of the new stock as
    you want from the old one, which can be built up with modeling clay as
    necesary. 
    
    Then you carefully finish the stock to your tastes...
    
    Anyway you might do better asking in DELNI::WOODWORKING_AND_TOOLS as
    it is more of a woodwork question than a guns question.
    
    /. Ian .\
856.6TKSMPGS::GIFFORDWhen nature calls you have to answerWed Nov 14 1990 13:245
    Thanks for all the responses. Ian, I'll do that, I don't know why I
    didn't think of the woodworking file first.
    
    
    Cowboy
856.7don't use junky woodTOLKIN::KCROWLEYThu Nov 15 1990 13:2511
     My father did this for his side by side and it turned out great he
    wrote to a dealer and they talked for awile he wound up giving my
    father a nice piece of wood for half price. Remember if your going to
    put alot of time in it get a good piece of wood not pine. after you do
    it you can have your name or somthing meaningfull carved into it once 
    you cut the stock have a good gun dealer put it on the gun itself. You
    can use the gun the hole time your sanding and filing it down ( time 
    consuming).It is something you can show poeple every time you go
    shooting with it.
     
     Kev
856.8Birch or WalnutSA1794::BARTHELETTEJThu Nov 15 1990 19:4314
      Another type of wood to consider using would be Birch, or Walnut.
    
    Most of the medium to high quality stocks are typically Walnut,
    and your lower priced guns often are Birch. For example in shotguns
    a Remington Express-870 the stock is birch, and a Remington Wingmaster
    sports a walnut stock.
    
      Using kiln dried wood is a must, and must be kept and worked in
    a reasonably dry, low humidity enviorment until it is done and a
    sealer is put onto the stock.
    
          Good Luck and Good Hunting, 
       
                                   << Jeff >>
856.9TKSMPGS::GIFFORDWhen nature calls you have to answerFri Nov 16 1990 10:3810
    Thanks for all the replies. I think for now I'm going to try the
    "extended" butt plate (recoil pad) idea. Making my own stock seems to
    be more involved than I really want to get into for now. I may try it
    later though.
    
    Thanks again.
    
    Happy shooting and good luck to everyone still hunting.
    
    Cowboy