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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

750.0. "Info on Coastal Waterfowl" by --UnknownUser-- () Tue Sep 11 1990 11:29

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750.1what part?DATABS::STORMWed Sep 12 1990 10:563
    Bob, what part of the coast are you interested in/ close by?
    
    Mark,
750.3DATABS::STORMWed Sep 12 1990 15:0222
    In NH, Great Bay is probably your best bet.  I've done very little
    hunting there so can't be very specific.  Get a map and find the boat
    ramps and give it a try.  You said you had a 'small' boat.  Depending
    on how small, you should be careful and when and where you venture out
    on the bay.  I hear it can get pretty nasty during hunting season.
    
    There are plenty of geese on the bay.  Also, I believe there are
    plans to convert part of the Pease airforce base into a wildlife
    management area.  That should be a fine spot for ducks and geese.
    
    If you are willing to cross the border, the marshes around plum island
    are another good place to try.  Parker River National Wildlife Refuge
    has areas that are open to hunting.  Let me know if you are interested
    in that and I can provide more info.
    
    Anybody else out there with more first hand advice on the NH coast?
    
    By the way, what do you have in the way of goose decoys???
    
    Good luck,
    Mark
    
750.4Seabrook-Hampton MarshWJOUSM::PAPPALARDOWed Sep 12 1990 15:4537
    
    Bob,
    
    I know where it is but can't tell you how to get there ( Ya' can't get
    there from here). But I'll try....
    
    Best bet is to take a ride this weekend to see if you can find.
    
    The area I'm talking about is perfect for small craft. It's the Hampton
    Seabrook marsh near the Seabrook Nuke station.
    
    Lets see::: Go to Rt. 1 North in Seabrook just north of the Gate
    (enterance) to the Nuke-station there is a right you'll have to take.
    It's the right after a barn or sort of that has been converted to
    "Shops" You know those yankee type shops???? 
    
    The road will be a dead end, in fact if you kept driving you would
    drive into the marsh. At the end of the road is train tracks you'll
    cross. 10yds from the tracks is a place to park and launch a boat.
    
    You also can see the marsh from RT.1A ( the Hampton bridge) from
    Seabrook to Hampton?, well, if you were looking from there at the Plant
    the marsh is to the right and all around it. Coming from RT1 and not 1A
    is the road I'm trying to explain.
    
    Wow.......Do you understand what I just said...I hope so, cause I'm
    confused.. but anyway I think you can find it. take a sunday ride and
    check it out. 
    
    I've hunted there a few times. Lot's of ROOM... hundreads of little
    water-ways to investigate on those bright sunny days when the ducks
    are'nt flying. I even had a crack at a male pin-tail two years ago,
    but missed, seems i had it mounted in my mind instead of concertraiting
    on my lead..oh-well give it a shot and let me know what you think.
    
    Rick
     
750.6DATABS::STORMThu Sep 13 1990 11:2311
    Bob, you can certainly do some pass shooting at geese on the coast.
    I've gotten a couple that way, but I would hardly call it "alot of
    shooting", especially if you limit yourself to birds that are within
    reasonable range.  There is lots of space along the coast for the
    geese to fly without flying right over you.  Unless you can put in
    a whole lot of scouting, it is pretty much blind luck whether they
    fly within range or out on the horizon.
    
    Good luck,
    Mark
    
750.7"detailed" directions...ZEKE::HOLLENI'm the NRA/GONHMon Sep 24 1990 17:3625
    
      I can't recall the exact road that is related in .4, but I've hunted
    ducks down that road myself before. It's actually in Hampton Falls.
    As .4 said, take Rte 95 to exit 1 (rt 107). Go toward Seabrook. You'll
    run right into the Nuke plant main gate. Take a left at the lights.
    You'll go by (in this order) apartments on the left, a Texaco on the
    right, a Papa Gino's on the left, a shopping center on the right (with
    a Market Basket), Applecrest apple stand on the left, Lukas
    "Greenhouse" restaurant on the left, then you'll come up on a "dip"
    (for lack of better words to describe it) where you'll see a tire
    store on the right and a pond on the left (you're now in Hampton
    Falls). When you crest the hill you'll be in Hampton Falls center.
    You'll see a bank on the right, and then you'll see the "converted
    barn" on the right. It has a lamp shop in it. Take THE NEXT RIGHT and
    you'll be on the road that goes down to the marsh... You'll also
    get one heck of a scenic view of beautiful "Seabrook Station"...
    
      How do I know this much detail on the area?  I'm from Seabrook...or-
    iginally ...
    
      Let's hear how you do... I haven't hunted the Seabrook/Hampton marsh
    since 1975....
    
    
    Joe
750.8Where is the coastal line?CHRLIE::HUSTONTue Sep 25 1990 11:285
    re .7 and .4
    
    Is this marsh in the coastal region, I assume so?
    
    --Bob
750.9NAVIER::LEFEBVREVote YES on Question 3Tue Sep 25 1990 11:4719
    Yes, it is coastal.
    
    Looking at a map at the general Seacoast area, the coastal/inland
    border runs along a line created by the following routes:
    
    Rt. 4 from the Maine/NH border (East of Rt. 4 is coastal, West is
    inland), south to 108 in Durham.  Follow 108 from Durham to Stratham
    where it meets with Rt. 101 (everything to the "left" of Rt. 101
    is inland, right is coastal).  Follow Rt. 101 to 51 (everything
    north of 51 is coastal, south inland).  Follow 51 to I95 (everything
    west of 95 from 51 to the Mass border is inland, everything east
    is coastal).
    
    Therefore all of Hampton Falls and Seabrook that lies east of I95
    is coastal.
    
    Confused yet?
    
    Mark.
750.10DATABS::STORMFri Dec 07 1990 09:548
    Bob, did you or any of the other noters here get out and hunt
    the Hampton marsh this year?  I'm thinking to trying it this
    weekend and was wondering if you've seen many birds in that
    area.
    
    Thanks,
    Mark
    
750.11Never made itCHRLIE::HUSTONFri Dec 07 1990 13:2213
    
    Mark,
    
    Sorry, nope, never made it to the marsh, or any other duck/goose
    hunt. Between a new baby, deer hunting and only having 1 shotgun and
    that one needing work before it can shoot steel, I never made it.
    
    If you go let us know how you did. I plan on checking the place out
    this spring/summer to see if it looks doable, as well as several
    other spots.
    
    --Bob
    
750.12DATABS::STORMMon Dec 10 1990 15:4313
    Well, we went there Saturday.  Had a duck land in the decoys and
    leave again before legal shooting time.  I thought that was a good
    start, but it turned out to be the only duck that got within 300
    yards of us.  We saw very few ducks and neither of us fired a shot.
    My guess is we need more cold weather to freeze some of the inland
    waters before the ducks concentrate on the salt marshes.
    
    I have to admit that we did hear a fair amount of shooting, so other
    folks in that general area must have picked better locations than
    we did.
    
    Mark,
    
750.13Gonna get cold this weekCHRLIE::HUSTONMon Dec 10 1990 16:1815
    
    Mark,
    
    sorry to hear about your luck, even rained too.
    
    Is this place accessible by just canoe or could a row boat with small
    motor make it in. Just curious about what to take when I go scouting 
    this spring.
    
    Ya got one more weekend to give it a shot and I think it is suppose to 
    get real cold this week, maybe it will freeze up a few places and
    concentrate the ducks on the salt marshes.
    
    --Bob
    
750.14CARROL::LEFEBVREEverybody knows this is nowhereMon Dec 10 1990 16:509
    Mark, were you in the red pickup?  I decided to head out to the marsh 
    at about 2:30 and saw two blacks fly overhead when I left my car.  They
    were the only ducks I saw.  The only shooting I heard was some guy
    target practicing with his sons.
    
    Sunday saw few ducks at Great Bay and the geese never took flight from
    the channel.  Slow weekend all around.
    
    Mark.
750.15DATABS::STORMTue Dec 11 1990 09:4933
    Mark, I was in a Maroon Toyota 4runner and we gave it up late in the
    morning.
    
    Bob, where we were would have been fine with a small row boat.  I
    forget the name of the street, it was Blade or Glade or something
    like that.  It was near Eastman Point if you look at a topo map.
    There is a boat ramp there that looks OK at all tide levels.
    
    We also checked out another access point on the way out.  Depot Ave
    runs straight to the marsh from the middle of Hampton Falls.  I believe
    this is the access described by the directions earlier in this note.
    It dead ends at some railroad tracks.  It doesn't have as much
    water as where I was, but still looks like it would float a small
    boat at low tide.  There were several trucks there and farther
    down the tracks, so this must the the access point most folks use.
    
    If you are not familiar with the marsh, I would strongly recommend
    getting a topo map of the area.  I got caught several times by the
    tides at another marsh.  A couple of times in the boat when we got
    ready to leave and discovered lots of now dry land between us and
    our putin place, and once on foot when a higher than normal tide
    left us wading for 45 minutes through crotch deep water - this was
    in January with large chucks of ice floating around!
    
    Fortunately, next weekend won't be the last weekend for me.  I will
    be hunting the Mass coastal season which opens Thursday and closes
    for ducks on Jan 1st.  In fact, I am currently planning to go down
    to Fairhaven goose hunting on Thursday.  I hope it's about time for
    my luck to improve!
    
    Good luck next weekend.
    Mark,
    
750.16get out?DATABS::STORMWed Dec 19 1990 09:406
    Mark, did you get out to the marsh for the last weekend?  I
    had planned to go but a sick kid kept me at home.  Best weather
    we've had all season.
    
    Mark,
    
750.17CARROL::LEFEBVREEverybody knows this is nowhereWed Dec 19 1990 13:0717
    Mark,
    
    I didn't get out to the marsh, but I got out on Great Bay with a friend
    who had permission to hunt a privately owned island.  We had about 60
    dekes out (25 magnum geese, 25 mallar/blacks and about a dozen
    whistlers) and a clear view of a wide open channel of water.  
    
    I saw more ducks land in our decoys than all of the 6 years I've hunted
    NH combined!  I was passing on blacks for the bulk of the morning, but
    by 10:00 I had counted over 100 blacks, so I decided to take one.  We
    also scored on a pair of goldeneyes.  The geese were plentiful, but
    didn't decoy.  
    
    I literally counted 50+ birds that splashed into our spread.  It was
    unbelievable.
    
    Mark.
750.18DATABS::STORMWed Dec 19 1990 13:4020
    Glad to hear you had a good day out.  Sorry the geese didn't decoy.  
    They have been giving me fits this year as well.
    
    Thursday I took the day off and went down to Fairhaven, Mass.  We
    didn't see as many geese as usual, but we did have one small flock
    hover over our decoys.  Half of them had dropped their feet and would
    have been in our laps in another 5 seconds, but some &%$#@&^ at the
    end of the field decide to take a shot at a bird a mile away and the
    geese got the hell out of there.
    
    We did see more ducks than I've seen in a long time.  Before legal
    shooting time they were just swarming around the field.  (Some other
    jerks started shooting at them at least 10 minutes before legal
    shooting).  Later in the morning I saw a flock of at least 100
    blacks go down in the marsh.
    
    It would have been a decent day if it wasn't for the a**holes around.
    
    Mark,
    
750.19WAHOO::LEVESQUENo artificial sweetenersWed Dec 19 1990 15:035
 Mark-

 Why didja pass on the blacks?

The Doctah
750.20CARROL::LEFEBVREEverybody knows this is nowhereWed Dec 19 1990 16:4414
    Mark, I've been reading a lot about the downturn in breeding blacks
    over the last several years.  However, I've yet to see evidence of this
    in the coastal area.  
    
    Having said that, I usually pass on the blacks unless I see a lot of
    them.  I saw at least 100 of them Saturday.   The other issue is the
    fact that after bagging a black, you have to be even more selective of
    the birds you shoot as we're only allowed one black per day.  Couple
    this with the similar profile and color of mallard hens (of which we're
    only allowed one bird) and you can see how taking a black early in the
    day will end your hunt early, unless there's other birds such as
    whistlers, goldeneyes, woodies or teal.
    
    Mark.