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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

738.0. "New Type of Shot" by GLDOA::CAREY () Tue Sep 04 1990 12:48

    Does anybody have any scoop on the "new" shot being tested.  I believe
    it is composed of Tungston and plastic, and is extruded.....someone
    told me it is already in Britain, and will be available in the States
    next year.
    
    Another person I know went to a steel shot seminar, where this new shot
    type was briefly mentioned as NOT superior to sttel
    
    What's the scoop?
    
    John C
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738.1Tungsten/polyCLUSTA::VIRGILTue Sep 04 1990 14:2720
>    Does anybody have any scoop on the "new" shot being tested.  I believe
>    it is composed of Tungston and plastic, and is extruded.....someone
>    told me it is already in Britain, and will be available in the States
>    next year.

    There was an article in Wildfowl, last issue I think. Anyway, the
    author referred to it as Tungsten/poly shot. He said it was superior
    to steel and held the same properties as lead. 
    
    The article also mentioned that it would be manufactured and available 
    in the states in a few years. One or two.
    
>    Another person I know went to a steel shot seminar, where this new shot
>    type was briefly mentioned as NOT superior to steel

    This is very different from what this article stated.
        
Michael    

738.2CLUSTA::STORMWed Sep 05 1990 10:3810
    There is also an article on this new shot in the latest issue
    of American Hunter.  It says this new shot is superior to steel (but
    this magazine as always been extremely anti-steel).  The main thing
    is that it does not damage the fine guns used so much in England.
    It also says cost is an issue.  The shells are expected to cost
    roughly 4 times that of lead shells.  Of course, that is not much
    of a factor if you are shooting a $5,000+ shotgun.
    
    Mark,
    
738.3I was waiting to see a priceDECWET::HELSELLegitimate sporting purposeWed Sep 05 1990 12:078
    4x as much?
    
    Wow.
    
    Let's see....if I switch from an autoloader to a single shot that will
    bring the cost down to just over 1.3:1.......
    
    /brett
738.4Tungsten-Poly shot updateDATABS::STORMMon Feb 18 1991 09:4426
    A brief update on the new tungsten-poly shoot from an article in
    the latest issue of WILDFOWL.  Basically, this article said that all
    the early writings on this new shot were made by people who were
    quoting statements of 1 or 2 writters and had not tested the new shot
    themselves.  Shotshells with this new shot is being manufactured under
    the name of "Black Feather".  There is one US reseller in Maine.
    
    Basically, initial testing of this writter and others are not as
    glamorous as originally claimed.  The desity of the shot is about half
    way between steel and lead, if I remember the numbers correctly.  The
    pellets do get disformed when fired (they were originally claimed to
    bounce back to perfectly round).  They did not pattern anything like
    as well as claimed.  Basically, an improved cylinder pattern was the
    best they could do, and that was with a full choke.  Now for the
    real killer - US shell will cost fifty something bucks for a box of
    25!!!  That is a LOT higher than what had been suggested by other
    writers.
    
    The company producing the shells basically agreed that these shells
    would never be a replacement for steel and that their product would
    be marketed to wealthy European gunners who have expensive guns and
    want to shoot non-toxic shot without damage - and price is not an
    issue.
    
    Mark,