Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

      I'll trade a goose hunt in MA. for just about any hunt somewhere
    else.
    
      Talk to me
    
    Jeff

RE:                      <<< Note 707.0 by CSC32::SCHIMPF >>>
                           -< I have an idea..No kid'n! >-

    Jeff,

	I recall a note somewhere about this and I also tried to start up
	a new one.  I also would be interested in trading a hunting or
	fishing trip in Colorado for one or the other outside of Colorado.
	Heck, I would even offer to take one of our co-noters without a
	trade.  If there is interest in this "trading", I'll work with
	Jeff or anyone else to set some basic guidelines to work out the
	trades by.  I would like to fish the Pacific Northwest for BIG
	salmons, hunt pigs in the Southwest, or birds in Kansas.  Is there
	anyother interested traders out there?

    Gordon

    
    Guess I need some help, please explain the details.  There are several
    conclusions that can be drawn from the 'trade hunt' phrase.  Since I am
    interested in hunting in other areas also.
    
    Cheers
    Leonard
    

    Re. 3
    
    Details should be worked out between the two parties...Say, for example
    that I take you on an Elk/Deer hunt.  We would have details worked out
    to the "T"....IE...Your expenses to get here are yours, help with
    cost of food/pay for your liciences...We hunt....No Guide fees...No
    other BS...Hassels,etc...Essentially you are able in some country that
    you've dreamed about without all the other added expense...Just a reg.
    hunting type trip, with the excption of paying $35.00 for gas; you
    might pay $100.00.....Nothing is promised, guarenteed maybe a good time
    new friends..Whatever....Then we swap, I go to whereever you are and
    fish, or hunt..Or whatever is agreed upon..
    
    I try to keep things as simple as possible...Its the only way to
    operate...Especially if ya simple minded....
    
    
    Jeff

    Hmmmm....
    
    I want to go hunting with Gordon Roberts for the following reasons:
    
    	-I'd like to experience what it's like when someone brings and elk
    	 into camp!
    
    	-I'd like to find out if one gets even more jealous over someone's
    	 elk than over someone's deer.
    
    	-If Gordon drops his elk early enough, maybe he'll tell me where to
    	 go so I can get a shot.
    
    	-I'd like to see for myself one of these giant creatures dropped
         with a little .270 round.
    
    What do you want to trade?  A chance to teach me how to shoot a
    Roosevelt Elk?
    
    A salmon trip to the Penninsula?
    
    /brett 

I have been vax mailing with Stan Keyes on this topic.  In addition to
the things Jeff has entered, Stan had the following and I will add mine.
It would be a good idea to get as much input on this from everyone as
we can to help develop some basic guidelines.  Granted they may not all
apply or the parties involved may want to make some modifications to some.
I think that some basic guidelines sould be defined so that there are not
any misunderstandings or problems.  Once these are defined we can go for it.

Stan's input:
Let me now add what I feel should be covered.

o What you have to Swap:
  ----------------------

o State, Location, etc.

o What you will be either hunting or fishing for?

o Any Fee's Licence, Gas, Tolls, Guide????, etc, etc.

o Transporation to and from Airport?

o Misc

  Gear, extras, etc, etc.

o Phone number of home residence to discuss swap?

o AND!!! a summary of your hunting background, experence.

My input:

o Where to stay when first arriving in town and before leaving for home

 Hotel/motel, or guest's home

o Camp accommodations

o special applications required

 in Colo we have to submit applications for limited licenses or antelope
 permits in June

o Provide the game regs in advance for hunt interested in

 States vary requirements for hunter ed, blaze orange, min rifle caliber,
 slugs or buck shot, point restrictions, bag, hunt time, etc.


These and other mentioned in other notes could be combined and edited to
something that would agreeable to *most* all, with changes on a as needed
basis.

I think this will be a great way to get to hunt/fish places that might
not be reasonable if one had to go with a licensed guide.  Granted as
Jeff said, no gurantees to bag the game your after, but I think the
parties involved should be able to at least get one another into an area
that would at least give one a chance to have a enjoyable if not successful
hunting or fishing experience.  

Lets keep this going and hopefully it will work.

Gordon

RE:       <<< Note 707.6 by DECWET::HELSEL "Legitimate sporting purpose" >>>
                                   -< Heck >-

    
>    I want to go hunting with Gordon Roberts for the following reasons:

>    	-I'd like to experience what it's like when someone brings and elk
>    	 into camp!

	Thanks for the compliment.
    
>    	-I'd like to find out if one gets even more jealous over someone's
>    	 elk than over someone's deer.

	Yes, people do.
    
>    	-If Gordon drops his elk early enough, maybe he'll tell me where to
>    	 go so I can get a shot.

	If you go with me, I'll make sure your odds are just as good as
	mine.
    
>    	-I'd like to see for myself one of these giant creatures dropped
>        with a little .270 round.

	Hard to believe isn't it?
    
>    What do you want to trade?  A chance to teach me how to shoot a
>    Roosevelt Elk?

	How big are those elk anyway?  I've been told their bigger than
	the Rocky Mtn. elk.
    
>    A salmon trip to the Penninsula?

	Now we're talkin'.
    
    /brett,

	I didn't draw the limited license this year that I applied for.
	That area has been very good to me.  My regular hunting partners
	and I are going to try a new area that we were given good directions
	and instructions into.  It is in the Flat Tops Wilderness Area.
	There area left over cow permits that we are applying for, but
	will settle for a bull tag.  We are planning a couple of scouting
	trips the month before season to get the lay of the land and plan
	our hunt.  My neck is swellin' and I've been rubbin' my head against
	my terminal thinkin' about the things this guy told us about the area.
	We got a couple of guys from DEC here joining us this year, but there's
	room for another.

	As far as a trade, I'll put you up for a deer/elk hunt for a salmon
	fishin' trip.  If your interested in antelope, we can try for a
	license next year.  I've got a hot spot to hunt them when I draw a
	tag.  All I got this year was preference points across the board.

   Gordon

    Gordon,
    
     Did I hear Flat-Tops ?  Where abouts are you headed, that where I
    pulled my muzzle-loader bull tag.
    
     Come see me or I'll see you. We can take this offline. :-)
    
    I got preference point again for deer and antelope. Maybe next year.
    
    Mark

    Gordon,
    
    About hunting Kansas for Pheasants;  We'll have to get together...Can
    always use another Shooter...Do you have a dog?
    
    The Flats....Excellent choice...Are you going in horseback?  Should be
    some really good hunting...
    
    
    I didn't draw a darned thing this year; But I've yet too hear about my
    Antelope tag....Where is it??????????
    
    
    Jeff

    This sounds like a great idea, BUT, living in Mass without a gun
    dog, large boat, or a cabin up north, what else could I offer?  I could 
    take someone Grouse/Partridge/Rabbit hunting (w/o a dog) up north the first
    couple weeks of Oct., but then again I rent a cabin so the money
    saved isn't all that terrific, I just know where to get a few birds and 
    trout and wabbits.....
    
    Any suggestions for another type of swap?  I'd be interested in wild
    pig hunting, or a good southern or midwest bird hunt.
    
                      			
    					Erik

RE:                    <<< Note 707.11 by FSHQA2::EPETERSEN >>>
                    -< Hmmm what have I got that *you* want??? >-

	Erik,

	Good point.  Its not hard coded that we must trade a hunting or fishing
	trip.  I have a friend in Kansas that puts me up during pheasant 
	season and I take him and his wife skiing out here in Colo.  The times 
	I've been to Mass for training or whatever have been quite boring in 
	that I know very few folks there.  Just being able to share a couple 
	of brews and stories with someone might be enough for some folks.  
	Maybe you could take a land locked sportsperson on the ocean, or maybe 
	show them the town.  See what I mean?  It may even workout that there
	is not even a "trade", you want to go hunting or fishing where one
	of us lives and we have no desire to visit your area.  So what?  You
	gain an experience and a friend, and someone else gains a friend.

	Gordon

    Erik,
    
    I heartidly agree too .12;  If you would like to come out or try to set
    up a hunt...Go for it!!  You..can always swap the best thing ya got..
    Your friendship...Come on out..(BTW: I'm in Colo.) ya probably figured
    that out..
    
    Like they say "no brains...No pains"
    
    
    Jeff

    HI again,
    
    I may have sounded on the "down" side not having any sporting offerings 
    other than my knowledge of the New England woods and waters.  I didn't
    mean to come off that way and certainly would love to show someone "the
    town" or take someone skiing, whatever... I agree there's always
    something you can show someone about your area/life/etc.
    
    I was just at the Springs CSC for a day and saw over 14 deer out at the 
    Air Force Academy grounds, I actually got within 4 feet or so of a doe,
    got some great pictures.  I couldn't believe all the deer I saw in 1/2
    an hour!!!!
    
    I'll keep on reading this note because I'd definitely be interested in 
    a swap of my knowledge and experience for someone else's, can't beat
    that!!!!
    
    					Erik

    Hey, this was a really great idea !!  I'd be willing to swap a fishing
    trip to Lake Champlain or the Quabbin (shared expenses & friendship) for a
    good duck or goose hunting trip in Mass. I have a lab, we can shoot & he 
    can work !
    
                              Don

	Last year a couple of you guys contacted me about hunting Colo.
	If still interested, get with your buddies and talk it over.
	The applications for limited licenses will be out in May and
	will need to be mailed by the first week of June.  Anyone
	interested can send me mail and I'll make sure you get the 
	applications.

	Gordon
	dtn 592-4540

    Gordon,
    
    I tried to convince a couple of my hunting partners to get serious
    about a trip, but it seems for various different reasons we can't get
    it together.
    
    Just wanted to thank you again for sending out the info!
    
    Maybe someday!
    
    Barry
    

	Hey guys,

	I have a class the week of July 22 at BTO.  Any of you work
	at that facility or near it?  Want to get a beer and swap
	stories?  How about fishing on Lake Champlain?

	Gordon    

    
    Gordon,
    
    Semd me mail, we can probably work something out.  
    
    Kevin

	I want to thank Kevin Remillard for taking me fishing and
	showing me around.  Granted we didn't catch many fish, but
	just getting out on the lake is enough for me.  I got to
	meet Rob and Bruce, and a couple others, share stories and
	photos.	You guys have some have some beautiful country to 
	hunt and fish.

	Good luck to you guys deer hunting this year.  If any of you 
	get out this way, let me know, I'll show you some mountains ;-).

	Gordon

    
    re .20
    
    No problem Gordon...like I said, wish we had calmer seas, and caught
    more fish...come back out early March, I could use someone to help me run 
    down tip ups with monster pike on the other end!!!  Or the end of May
    when the pre-spawn Largemouths are in the bay by the hundreds...it gets
    tough out there the end of July...but you've already heard me say that
    a few times.  ;^)
    
    About the beautiful country and the "hills", wasn't it you that said 
    (when we were hiking down to that brook), "You guys don't really hunt in 
    this timber do you?"  I'd love to come out to the real mountans, the
    only problem is I can't hit the broadside of a barn over 100 yds, guess
    I'd have to learn how to shoot.  I wish all problems were that much fun
    to solve!!
    
    take care and good luck this fall,
    
    Kevin