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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

549.0. "ONE P-OD HUNTER" by MTADMS::GEIBEL () Mon Nov 13 1989 12:49

    
    
    
    Well to start the story off it was 4:30 am NOV 8 1989 got out of
    bed stumbled around got my stuff together and kissed the wife
    goodby (wishing she could be out for the first day) at my hunting
    spot at 5:30 set down for the wait as the sky started to brighten
    showing signs of daybreak all of a sudden movement nah a bush 
     what the heck its that monster buck yeahhhh he steps behind a tree
    I stand up he steps right into the shooting lane at 70 yds broadside
    the beads right on the front shoulder and boom he does a nose dive
    then hes right back on his feet and tearing through the woods, couldnt
    get another shot I picked up my duffle bag walked over and there
    was hair everywhere well hunting season is over start to follow
    the tracks and then the blood started and it was everywhere and
    I went about 130 yds and DAMN IT here comes 2 guys dragging the
    buck I just shot I went over and they said that they had shot
    the deer and I said BULLSH*T theres only been one shot fired 
    and that one about tore my arm off since it came from my 12 ga.
     and the deer only had one hole in it in the front shoulder perfect
    lung shot. I was POED and told them to just get the deer the F*CK
    out of here(I was hunting on posted land) the buck had a spread
    of about 24-28" and had 11 pts. all between 8-12" I was pissed
        I left and went back to my stand and sat down on my bucket
    and 20 minutes went by and then I saw movement and it was grey
    beside a tree I said man what a big squirrel then the deer stepped
    out and stood in the same place as the first one and when I picked
    up the shotgun he looked over his shoulder and the bead was settled
    on his neck and the safety was off and then I was picking myself
    up off the ground wiped the blood off my face and I couldnt see
    the deer anymore and then I walked over and there he was laying
    in the hair from the first deer I had shot and I field dressed him
    and was back at the truck with him by 9:30 am and off to the checking
    station and then fish&game called all the checking stations(supposedly)
    and told them about my 11 pointer.
     
                                               Good hunting to all
    
    
                                                    LEE
    
    
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549.1Deer stealers....BTOVT::MORONGMon Nov 13 1989 13:026
      Wow, thats the longest sentence I have ever read!!! ;-)
    
      Too bad about the 11 pointer. Some "hunters" can be such 
    idiots. How big was the deer you ended up getting???
    
    -Ron-
549.2WJOUSM::PAPPALARDOMon Nov 13 1989 13:2010
    
    
    Why would anyone want game they did not take? I honestly belive that
    if I did something like that, the Great-Sprit would put a hex on me for
    life.
    
    Besides, I Don't want someone elses deer. I'll shoot it myself or take
    nothing at all Thank You.
    
    Rick
549.3GOOD DEER HUNTING IN N.H.MTADMS::GEIBELMon Nov 13 1989 13:428
    
    
       Well sorry for the long sentence but once I get rabling on about
    what happened I get madder than h*ll,
         The deer I ended up with was a 105 lb. 4 point 10.5" wide and
    10.25 high and 6.75 from tip-tip in the front a nice even gallon
    rack for a 1.5 year deer.
    
549.4Nice little basket-rack...BTOVT::MORONGMon Nov 13 1989 14:067
    
      I was only kidding about the sentence.
    
      Nice rack for a 4-pointer!!! But not as nice as the 11-pointer
    would have been. Congrats.
    
    -Ron-
549.5That's B&&*%^$TBTOVT::WENER_RTue Nov 14 1989 09:2010
    
    Lee,
    	I assume you tried talking to the guys.  Me, personally, I really
    think I would have laid my gun down and had a round with those boys,
    no matter how big they were.  THEY STOLE YOUR BUCK!  I can't believe
    why anyone would want to do that,  I really feel bad for you!  Good
    consolation prize though -
    
    Rob
    
549.6Couldn't this have resolved it?CURIE::POPIENIUCKTue Nov 14 1989 09:464
    Lee, if I read your note correctly, you shot the first deer
    (11-pointer) with a shotgun.  If these other two bozos had rifles I
    would think it would have been a fairly simple matter to determine who
    shot what at the registration station by following them there.  No?
549.7I hate slugs!!!!MTADMS::GEIBELTue Nov 14 1989 14:256
    We all had shotguns it was shotgun only teritory. damn shotguns
    anyhow I sure wish I would of had the 30-06 that buck would of been
    hanging on my wall fer sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
                                                      Lee
    
549.8There are ways to tell... sometimesDELNI::SOUTHWORTHWed Nov 15 1989 14:389
    I had the same thing happen to me with one of the people in my hunting 
    party!  He fired at the deer and said he hit it.  So I asked him too
    show me his brand of slug, and I pulled out mine.  We then gutted the 
    deer and searched for the slug, it turned out to match my slug.  So he
    apologized and helped me drag the deer out of the woods.
    
    Ray
    
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549.9KNGBUD::LAFOSSEThu Nov 16 1989 09:198
    Ray,
    And along comes a game warden while your gutting it out and arrests
    the both of you for not legally tagging it first... 
    
    take your chances?????   naw!! ain't worth it.
    
    Fra
    
549.10The GW might be to your advantageDELNI::SOUTHWORTHThu Nov 16 1989 09:288
    Good point... 
    
    Maybe having the Game Warden come along would be a good idea!  I
    believe that if you feel that you are right, especially if it is a
    large deer, I would take the chance.  Just my opinion....
    
    Ray
    
549.11Is this taking chances?CSC32::S_JOHNSONProfessional Wrestling is RealThu Nov 16 1989 10:105
    We were told in the hunter safety course out here in colorado to fill
    out the tag, drag the animal out and then put the tag on it.  That way
    the tag doesn't get torn off or lost.
    
    scott
549.12exHEFTY::TENEROWICZTMon Nov 20 1989 11:3412
    I once heard a story about a young guy who was on his first hunt.
    He bags a buck and can't drag it out by himself. He filler out his
    tag and put the tag inside the bucks mouth. Then went to find his
    uncle to help with the drag. They returned to find the deer gone.
    They went to the way station and there was the deer. Two other hunters
    had claimed it. The boy and his uncle called the game warden over
    and told their story. The bucks jaw saw broken open to find the
    boys tag. The two hunters were arrested. To saving grace was that
    the deer had been gutted by the boy.
    
    
    Tom
549.13QUEBAL::KELTZI'm not nervous, just VERY alert!Tue Nov 21 1989 08:4413
    Well, just to add to the jist of this note, Saturday, up near Peterboro
    a friend and I were hunting when what do we find?  A 4 point buck.
     Dead. Field dressed. And hidden in pine boughs.
    
    Seems like someone shot it the night before, and covered it upto
    come back and get the next night.  Some critters j=found it and
    dragged it out from under the pines, and chewed it up pretty good.
    
    We called the game warden, and he said he was going to post someone
    there to see if he could get the guys that did it.  Dont know if
    he did, but if so, I hope they hang'em by the b*lls.
    
    Ed
549.14Too late to drag???BTOVT::MORONGTue Nov 21 1989 09:289
      Perhaps they got the deer late in the day and didn't want to
    drag after dark. I don't find that all that unusual. I always
    hear of hunters shooting a deer one day, and going back the next
    day to get it. Maybe the fact that they field dressed it makes it
    sound suspicious, but I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. Too bad
    the critters got to it though. Unless the warden can prove that it
    was shot illegally (after dark?), what can he do???
    
    -Ron-
549.15tagged?????WMOIS::S_NIEMII'm the NRA,ILA,CCRKBATue Nov 21 1989 09:426
    
    	I'm pretty sure in NH you have to notify a game warden if you leave
    a deer in the woods overnight. Also that deer should have been tagged
    if it was taken lawfully.
    
    sjn
549.16If it was illegal BOOK'EM DANOMTADMS::GEIBELTue Nov 21 1989 11:3710
    RE .15 correct on both tagging and calling the warden.
    RE .14 the fish & game can tell by tests the exact time of death
    and its acurate to the quarter hour.
    
         As far as leaving the deer overnight in the woods I would not
    leave a deer in the woods not with all the cyote's and dogs that
    are running around.
    
                                                        Lee
    
549.17Go get itDNEAST::STEVENS_JIMTue Nov 21 1989 12:3716
    The same holds true for Maine as in .15...
    
    
    But, I would never leave a deer in the woods overnight either....Too
    many cayotes and DISHONEST hunters.....
    
    I carry 5 or 6 yards of orange tape, a flashlight and a map. I'm sure
    I could find the deer in the dark..I have in the past (not mine).
    
    It is snowing like a mother outside...Winds over 50mph....Those deer
    are laying down today and will be again tonight...I'm gone tommorow
    morning again for the rest of the season.....I feel a big buck is
    in the offering..
    
    Jim
    
549.18For What It's WorthMAIL::HENSONTue Nov 21 1989 12:4212
    I once had to leave an elk overnight because I shot it too late
    in the day to drag it out.  I draped several articles of my
    clothing on and around the kill and also "christened" the immediate
    area with a fair amount of urine (mine).  
    
    When I returned the next day, the elk had not been bothered.  I
    also moved the carcass some distance from where I had dressed it.
    This was in an area in Central Utah which has a sizeable bear and
    mountain population.  I don't know if this would work on dogs or
    coyotes.
         
    Jerry
549.19OopsMAIL::HENSONTue Nov 21 1989 12:431
    re. .18    Make that mountain lion population.
549.20"Leave My Elk Alone"WILLEE::MANLEYTue Nov 21 1989 13:2214
    re: .18/.19
    
    Jerry,
    
    Sorry I couldn't help myself.....was that urine or tinks...and what
    did you write in the snow to keep the critters away ;^}?
    
    Seriously though, I've heard that human scent will in fact keep
    game away. (i.e. some of the sporting goods catalogs use to sell
    jugs for carrying out urine, because the scent would drive the game
    away). In fact alot of the scents on the market are for masking
    human scent (i.e. pine, skunk etc.)
    
    Tom, 
549.21I depends where you are.GENRAL::BOURBEAUTue Nov 21 1989 13:448
    	Elk are often gutted out and left overnight in the Rockies, since
    there are many places there that it would be very dangerous, due to
    the terrain, to try to drag it, or even carry quarters out in the dark.
    	A party near us this season, did leave three ,at different times,
    for the next day. They apparently didn't lose much meat. I guess it
    depends where you're hunting.
    
    	George
549.22WAHOO::LEVESQUEAs you merged, power surged- togetherTue Nov 21 1989 15:366
 It seems to me that the deer should have been tagged (in accordance with the 
law), that the warden should have been summoned (I didn't know about this law),
and that the hunter should have hung the deer from a tree so the animals 
couldn't get it (assuming that he couldn't go back and get it at night).

 The Doctah
549.23not by choiceFSCORE::KAYEHe who dies with the most toys is deadWed Nov 22 1989 20:198
We have left many a moose overnite (shot near dusk & gutted) with no
problems. The wolves are a constant threat, but there is no way you
can do anything with a moose 1 1/2 miles back in the bush in the dark.
I have never left a deer, and as another noter, carry orange tape and
a flashlight just in case. It's not something i like doing, but in
some cases there isn't any choice.

 mark
549.24First Day ShowEUCLID::PETERSONPanama has no Second AmendmentMon Nov 27 1989 07:5613
    
    
    	As an aside to this note, there is a talk show on this morning
    	that seems to have an "all hunters are drunks" slant to it.
    
    		If you have access to an AM radio, in the E.Mass area
    	and want to get ticked off, tune in 'RKO.  It's their annual
    	First Day of Hunting Season show, and there is a lot of BS
    	flyin'.....on both sides.
    
    
    		CP