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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

519.0. "N.H. Moose hunt" by SALEM::MACGREGOR (I'm the NRA/GONH/NAHC) Mon Oct 23 1989 13:29

    The N.H. Moose season yeilded 59 tags filled this year. This is
    up 2 from the 57 bagged last year in the states first Moose hunt
    in 87 years. The Fish and Game has been hoping for a higher kill
    this year but rainy conditions during the 3 day hunt has been
    attritubed to the low number taken this year. The Fish and Game
    were hoping to get close to a 100% take this year. Maybe next year
    they wil give out more permits.
    							Bret
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519.1929/1000thsDNEAST::MAHANEY_MIKETue Oct 24 1989 04:524
            Maine's 89 moose hunted ended on Saturday with a harvest of
    929 animals which was three shy from the record set last year. I also
    beleive that the rain and snow held back from a new record being set.
    
519.2Beer Camp Here I ComeLUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorTue Oct 24 1989 06:1612
    
    
    What was the biggest Moose shot in Maine this year?
    
    What was the biggest Moose shot in N.H, this year?
    
        
          I'm sure noters would like to know....
    
    
    Jeff_Who_Leaves_Two_Weeks_From_Thursday_For_Maine
    
519.3XCUSME::NEWSHAMI'm the NRATue Oct 24 1989 06:404
    I believe the biggest one shot in N.H. was around 835 lbs.
    
    
    Red
519.4small oneLUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorTue Oct 24 1989 06:448
    
    
    Thats a baby......  But i still respect it..
    
      Hey Jim, I wonder how big that one up Butches is this year? 1000
    pds?  or higher??
    
           Jeff
519.5XCUSME::NEWSHAMI'm the NRATue Oct 24 1989 07:109
    Re. > That's a baby...
    
    	Don't remember if it was the dressed weight or love weight.
    If it was the dressed weight, it would put it over the 1000 mark.
    
    	That's like driving a VW Bug 2 - 3 miles into the woods, taking
    the wheels off, and dragging it out.......Some fun....
    
    	Red
519.6Live not loveXCUSME::NEWSHAMI'm the NRATue Oct 24 1989 07:135
    Re. 519 > love weight
    
    		Before I get picked on, it's " LIVE " weight.
    
    	Red, again..
519.7I "WANT" one DammitLUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorTue Oct 24 1989 07:2913
    
    
    re last:   Sure it was Red... (-;
    
    
              If you were smart you would wait till the moose
    got close to the road and then shoot it... Or even on the road.
    (-:
    
    
                   Jeff_Who_Has_Never_Gotten_A_Moose_Permitt
    
    
519.8I " WANT " one also, but..XCUSME::NEWSHAMI'm the NRATue Oct 24 1989 07:517
    Re .7
    
    	I'd like to get a Moose also, but it would cost me too much
    $$$$$. I'd have to buy a huge freezer, and put an addition on the
    house so that I could hang the mount...
    
    	Red
519.9i hear yaLUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorTue Oct 24 1989 07:559
    
    
    Red,
    
        Worry about that after.....  You might never get that
    chance again.
    
    
                 Jeff
519.10It isn't always hard, just usuallyCHRLIE::HUSTONTue Oct 24 1989 09:4912
    
    I believe the largest NH moose was 895, and there were 3 of them.
    
    As for the drag, I have a friend who went on a guided bow hunt in
    Canada, the guide had a moose permit and had a rifle with him, well
    they were walking down a logging road, saw a moose about 75 yards in
    the woods. They all waited, the moose stepped on the road, guide
    dropped it in its tracks, went back to camp, got the tow truck, hooked
    him up and off they went. Piece of cake.
    
    --Bob
    
519.11920+++DNEAST::MAHANEY_MIKETue Oct 24 1989 13:082
             I don't know what was the largest is yet, but the largest one
    for opening day in Greenville was 920lbs.
519.12WJO::PAPPALARDOTue Oct 24 1989 15:459
    
    
    RE:11
    
    920LBS would be enough for me. with at least a 50% yeild you would have
    460lbs of pure meat.
    
    BOY!! what a cook out we could have
    
519.13I,m going to get me one somedaySALEM::PELLETIERWed Oct 25 1989 12:526
    re.11 
    
     Mike who got one in Greenville????????
    
    Wish it were me :-)
    Gilles
519.14WILLEE::MANLEYWed Oct 25 1989 15:535
    RE: .11
    
    Greenville...like in just over the border from Townsend, MA????
    
    
519.15DNEAST::MAHANEY_MIKEThu Oct 26 1989 05:062
        The T.V. announcer did not give a name. I would bet before the week
    was out that the 920lb. weight was beaten.
519.16I'm Rubbing NowLUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorThu Oct 26 1989 06:1310
    
    
    mmmmm....920 Pds. Beaten....  Boy that must be a biggie...
    
    
            Hope he had fun getting out of the woods,,, (-:
    
    
       Jeff_Who's_Itching_To_Bust_A_Buck
    
519.17XCUSME::NEWSHAMI'm the NRAThu Oct 26 1989 06:2711
    Re. 16
    
    	Jeff,
    		I agree with you, I'd settle for a Buck. It's easier
    	to haul out of the woods, and the walls at the house have
    	a better chance of holding up.....
    
    		My neck is sooooo swelled, my shirts don't fit anymore.
    
    
    	Red
519.18So I Lie.... But It's Worth It...LUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorThu Oct 26 1989 06:3821
    
    ...My neck is sooo swelled...
    
    
    
      Come on Red,
    
             I was told by a girl that rubbed my neck, " Boy if were
    only that big i'd be happy"
    
           I said it is honey...
    
         Happy Hunting...
    
    
                 Jeff
    
    
    P.S. And Jim, No comment from you Big Bro..  (-:
    
                 
519.19I can't stop laughing.DNEAST::STEVENS_JIMThu Oct 26 1989 09:076
    Let's keep things out of the gutter boys....
    
    Jeff, I don't have to say anything....You said it all...
    
    Jim
    
519.20There's to much blood in my AlcoholLUDWIG::STEVENSKnocking on Heavens DoorFri Oct 27 1989 07:1611
    
    
    On the Serious side.... I would like the biggest taken
    in both states......   
    
           I just want to see how big they were..
    
    
    
    
       Jeff
519.21Not the biggest - but mineDNEAST::FICKETT_DAVEThu Nov 02 1989 05:1782
      Well, as a lucky Maine permit holder, I can tell you about mine...
    even though it wasn't the biggest taken.
    
      Both my father-in-law and myself got a permit this year, so since
    a group of friends and I own a hunting camp in Washington county,  we
    decided to hunt together.
    
      There were six of us - three in each of two vehicles.  The night
    before opening day, we rode around just before sunset and spotted 6
    moose.  We had radios between the trucks and kept in contact with each
    other.  We saw 2 bulls and 1 cow and the other guys saw three cows.
    This is all on paper company land and the moose were feeding on sprouts
    in some skidder choppings.  We didn't know it was going to rain all
    week, but evidently they did because they were feeding heavily.
    
      The next morning we got up around 4:45, ate breakfast, and waited for 
    daylight.  (This was a serious trip this time - no heavy drinking the
    night before so everybody actually got out of bed.)  It seemed to take
    forever to get light enough to see since it was soooo overcast.  
    
      Both groups decided to ride the areas we had the night before.  The
    truck I was in with my brother and another guy lead the way.  It was
    just light enough so that we could shut off our parking lights and see
    into the open areas.  I was looking out the passenger's side and caught
    a glimpse of 2 white hind legs walking away from us into a chopping.
    I yelled "There's one!" and it seemed to take forever to stop the truck
    and get my rifle and myself out of the truck.
    
      The moose was just walking away from us about 175 ft off the road.
    Did not have a good shot, so we yelled at him, and he was stupid enough
    to turn around broadside. "Finally" found nothing but black in the scope
    and let rip.  Hit him about 1� ft behind the forward shoulder.  
    
      Meanwhile, there was a cow with him that we hadn't seen.  She was
    behind a clump of small firs and she took off when we shot.  The bull
    that was hit walked a few feet more then dropped.
    
      Here's the tale of the tape....
    
             Dressed weight - 700lbs
             14 points  36" spread
             Rifle - Browning .308 BLR with 1.5 X5 Buschnell scope  180 gr.
             Time shot - 6:40 AM  15 mins. into the hunt
    
        Went through lungs, exploded heart - none could be found, and
        lodged into the far ribcage.
    
      It was over way too fast.
    
        The other group tried to find the cow but couldn't find her.  They
      did travel on and about 2 miles away they came across a good sized 
      cow and calf.  They got the cow at around 6:55 AM.  They didn't have
      her formally weighed, but we figured about 500 - 600 pounds.
    
      We couldn't believe it.  Both permits used up before 7AM on opening
      day.  Needless to say, there was some partying in camp that night.
    
        Since it was on paper company land, a few of the guys who were just
    coming to work stopped by while we were gutting it out.  We managed
    to have guy with a skidder pull both moose out for us.  Will never be
    able to thank that guy enough.  We offered him money, and he didn't
    want to take it, but we made him.  It was worth it.
    
        The cutter that I took the moose to had 20 twenty moose brought to
    him total.  His biggest was 932lbs. with a 5ft spread between antlers.
    I managed to get the following meat from mine....
    
                            167 steaks
                             15 roasts
                            131 lbs hamburger
    
    
    It was definitely a trip of a lifetime.  Too bad it was over so quick,
    but I stayed in camp for two more days just bird hunting and none of us
    saw another moose.  It was so rainy, I think they just bedded down to
    wait it out.
    
    
                                                         Dave
    
    
    
519.22next year for sureSTRATA::BINGThe midnight train is whinin' lowThu Nov 02 1989 06:555
    
    
    131 lbs. of hamburger. I hope you stocked up on ketchup!
    It sounds like you had alot of fun. Next year it's my turn!
                                Walt
519.23who me??LUDWIG::STEVENSHey Boo-Boo, Want a Budwiser?Thu Nov 02 1989 07:0010
    
    
    I've been applying fo a permitt for 13 years... Never got one..
    
    
            Hope ya'all had a good hunt..
    
    
    
    Jeff
519.24GENRAL::WADEThat big talk don't mean doodly squat!Thu Nov 02 1989 11:446
    re .21
    
    Is "road hunting" the standard way of taking game back there?
    
    
    Clay
519.25Try toting a 1000 lb bull :*)HAZEL::LEFEBVREI'd rather be huntingThu Nov 02 1989 11:533
    For Moose hunting it is.
    
    Mark.
519.26Hunting with a cameraBTOVT::MORONGThu Nov 02 1989 15:3713
      A few years back I went on a canoe trip down the Allegash Wild-
    erness Waterway in Maine. We started on the North corner of Baxter 
    State Park. Most of the trip is through land owned by the paper 
    companies. We saw a total of 15-20 moose, including some real big
    bulls. That would be a great hunting trip, but try to imagine get-
    ting a 1000lb moose way up there, with nothing but a canoe to get
    him out. Scary thought, but appealing anyways. Got some real nice
    pictures, but close-ups were tough to get. Imagine a moose stepping
    in/on your canoe. We did get within 50ft of one real big bull that
    was feeding on the edge of the river. It would have been an easy shot,
    but then again, how would you get him out of the water???
    
    -Ron-
519.27MOOSE IN MAINEDNEAST::DANFORTH_DANFri Nov 03 1989 07:408
    
    
    	When moose hunting ya gotta just ride the old roads and hope
        you see one close by. I've been the last 3 years and have been
        very successful using this method. I would bet that 95% of the
        moose that are shot during the hunt are shot that way. In 1988
        we had to drag one about 500yds in order to reach it with the 
        cable and winch and it was no picnic.
519.28GENRAL::WADEThat big talk don't mean doodly squat!Fri Nov 03 1989 10:4114
    I don't mean to sound "holier than thou" but, I think road
    hunting out here in Colorado is illegal.  Even if it's
    not, it doesn't seem ethical or sporting.  Of course, you
    could argue this point all the way down to where we should
    be taking game with our bare hands so that it's fair to the
    game........
    
    Elk are very large too.  If we get one down where dragging
    the whole animal out is not possible or easy, we half or
    quarter the carcass.  I've seen some hunters even de-bone
    on the spot and only bring out the meat (along with evidence
    of sex).
    
    Clay
519.29$.02HAZEL::LEFEBVREI'd rather be huntingFri Nov 03 1989 12:308
    Clay, what do you consider "road hunting"?
    
    In Maine, a road in moose country is typically a tote road (barely
    passable w/o 4wd) or a logging road (dirt/gravel).  
    
    I don't think anyone's advocating shooting from a paved road.
    
    Mark.
519.30You HAVE to bring it out wholeCHRLIE::HUSTONFri Nov 03 1989 12:388
    re .28
    
    Another point that seems different, is in NH ( and Maine I think) you 
    have to bring the moose out in one piece, gutted is ok.  You also have
    to bring out several organs or parts of them for the biologist.
    
    --Bob
    
519.31road hunting => private landDNEAST::FICKETT_DAVEFri Nov 03 1989 12:4622
    
    
      re:28
    
        The "roads" we've hunted from belong to the paper company.
      They are not state owned or maintained.  They are open to the
      public probably because there are so many it would be hard to
      regulate access.
    
        I beleive that hunting directly from tarred state roads and
      highways is illegal.  I've never done it and don't have the
      hunting regulations right with me, so Mr. Danforth or any other
      Maniacs that know, please enlighten us.
    
        But if you can't get the moose into your truck and have it lay
      down before you shoot it, drop him as close to the road as possible.
      Even a quartered mosse will be more work than you'd want.
    
                                                         Dave
    
    
      
519.32GENRAL::WADEThat big talk don't mean doodly squat!Fri Nov 03 1989 13:3413
    I was referring to 4wd/logging roads.  I don't have the
    Colorado reg's with me so I can't quote from it.  I'll
    try to remember to bring them in Monday.  I can't
    remember talking to anybody that didn't look down on
    "driving around til the game is spotted, them jumping
    out and shooting it".  
    
    The requirement of bringing the animmal out whole seems
    strange.  Why is that a requirement?  Many people in 
    this state would be SOL if that were required here, taking
    into account those steep and beautiful Rocky Mountains ;-)
    
    Clay
519.33maybe its 2 reasonsCHRLIE::HUSTONFri Nov 03 1989 14:2512
    
    Personally I feel the reason for bringing the game out whole is two
    fold.
    
    1) In New England, when deer hunting you must have a portion of the
       deer visable on the vehicle when transporting, this means the 
       deer must be whole.  This may have just "carried over"
    
    2) Biologists are at the check points and they want to see the moose
       for age/size/sex determination.
    
    --Bob
519.34HAZEL::LEFEBVREI'd rather be huntingFri Nov 03 1989 15:5714
    < Note 519.33 by CHRLIE::HUSTON >
                            -< maybe its 2 reasons >-

    
>    1) In New England, when deer hunting you must have a portion of the
>       deer visable on the vehicle when transporting, this means the 
>       deer must be whole.  This may have just "carried over"

    Fortunately for Maine hunters, this year you do NOT have to display
    the deer once you've checked in and registered your tag with the
    game biologists.
    
    Mark.