Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    Yeah, just like the anti's got their way down in Ipswich's
    Crane Reservation. My wife was talking to the head of the
    Mass. F & G department last spring. He said that the deer heard 
    is starving so badly right now that the residents, (some of the
    original ones that protested hunting in the area) now want to be 
    able to shoot the deer themselves, that crawl into their
    back yards, out of season. What a waste ! Now that the deer are so bad
    off physically, they'll just be killed and buried. The anti's say
    that the problem is that there are no predator animals, to thin out
    the heard. The problem with the anti hunters, is that they won't
    get it through their thick skulls that man is a predator.
    
    Jim

    	Suggest to the anti's that another solution is to import
    mountain lions and bears. See how quickly they tell you that 
    they don't want these dangerous animals so close to their homes.
    
    	By the way, they don't target developers because:
    
    	1. They don't really understand the problem.
    
    	2. They don't care about REAL solutions.
    
    	3. Developers are organized, have money, and can fight back
    	   effectively.
    
    		George

    re.2
    
    		Plus, the developers get those big bucks..oops dollars
    		from the same people that don't like hunters, but want
    		a house in the woods to "be close to Mother Nature".
    
    			There used to be a few deer, and a pair of fox 
    		that would come through the back yard.  That is till
    		"yuppieville" went up out in back.  Now all I see is 
    		crows.
    

    
    That's why i always say, "Open Season On Anti's"
    
              I can't believe some of the things these quacks will do..
    
        Jeff

    There was a short article in the Union Leader a few weeks ago about
    the anti-Moose'ers, and it said that on top of wanting to stop the
    killing of the poor Moose, they also wanted the Fish and Game
    Dept. to sponsor defensive driving courses for people up north,
    as that's were the majority of the Moose-Car accident occur.
    
    These people continue to amaze me. How in H*** do they expect someone
    to learn how to avoid a 800 + Moose that steps/runs out in front
    of your vehicle.
    
    Red

    LET ONE OF THE ANTI'S HIT A MOOSE AND THEN ASK EM IF A DEFENSIVE
    DRIVING CLASS WOULD OF HELPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
       I know what its like to hit a deer I wouldnt want to try avoiding
    a confrontation with a 800-1000 lb moose, hell trying to avoid a
    deer is hard enough.
    
        I wish the antis would wake up and listen to some serious
    environmental issues we have, one being that a moose can eat
    vegitation upto and exceding 8 feet and a deer can only eat up to
    around 4-5 feet and rabbits are even worse off, so if they get the
    moose hunt stopped after we have 5-10 years of the moose pop. growing
    like it has been that is all we will have in this state and any
    piece of woods that you go into wont have any vegitation up to 8
    feet I mean an animal doesnt get to be 800-1000 lbs by being on
    a stict deit.. I think its about time the antis come back to reality
    and listen to the people that have college degrees in the environmental
    field and who study the animals everyday and spend numerous unpaid
    hours in time to help them in there jobs.
       And as far as the moose only being in the north country is B.S.
    yesterday I saw a moose not 3 miles from Concord, and last week
    we had one walk through the woods behind our building here in 
    Contoocook, that could mean the moose is trying to find a better
    home than the north country for food and ease of mobility.
      Man did the antis have a field day with the hunting accident
    last weekend, its a real shame that we all lost a hunting companion
    because of someone carelessly shooting, I have been hunting for
    14 years and have seen in excess of 15,000 deer in the wild and
    I have never seen a deer get up on its hind legs and walk like
    a human, IM NOT INSINUATING ANY OF YOU GUYS WOULD BUT PLEASE STESS
    TO FELLOW HUNTING COMPANIONS TO REALLY MAKE SURE OF THE ANIMAL BEFORE
    YOU SHOOT, once the trigger is pulled there is no saying whoooaaa.
    
                                         GOOD LUCK HUNTING TO ALL
       
                                                        Lee
    
        

    re.-1
    
    15,000 deer seen in fourteen years of hunting? That's 1071 deer
    seen each year!!
    
    Ah, could you tell me your secret, and do you need a hunting partner?
    :^) :^) :^)
    
    Jamie

    
    re  NH Moose hunt attacked
    
    Yesterday in the mail I got a Nashua Broadcaster, a free paper that 
    comes everyonce in awhile.
    
    Well in the editorial section there was a story written by a member of
    the save the moose or what ever they are called.
    
    At first I thought maybe this was in support of the hunt. It started
    off saying there are to many moose/car collisions and the moose wins.
    Other states have effectively reduced this (they all also had hunting
    season on moose). From the way I read it she was saying there are to 
    many moose, then she turned around and said we don't have enough for
    a hunt and hunting is not the way to reduce them.
    
    She tried making some points about the moose survey not being
    completed. And that the fish & game turned down $6000 from someone
    (anyone know about this), she insinuated that the only reason the
    survey is not finished was because the results would not support
    a hunt.
    
    I had a hard time figuring out what she was saying alot of the time, 
    she was all over the place.
    
    --Bob
    

    RE.7
    
       LIVE IN PA.  if you want to see deer go down there heck we probably
    saw 500-750 deer in a week including spotting.
    
         I would love to move back there but we are going back for a
    bonus deer since we got drawn in the lottery.
    
    
                                                         Lee
    

    Lee,
    
      500-750 deer in a week!!! That is wild!! I live and hunt up here
    in Ontario Canada and I can only say that I see about 15-20 deer
    a year. What is the area like down there, is it all fields with
    little chunks of bush? Up here it's all bush with little chunks of
    field so we don't get to see near as many deer as you. It must be
    easy hunting down there with all those deer standing there waiting
    to have a tag put on them. :*) :*)
    
    
    Jamie_who_is_counting_the_hours_till_the_6th

    
    
    	I heard on the radio today that over the weekend a moose was shot
    	in Ma. in the median strip of rte 128 in the Dedham/Westford area.
    	Aparently it was wandering around for quite a while and the State
    	and the wildlife police decided to take it out before someone
    	colided with it.  
    		They seem to be flourishing quite well.  Next stop is
    	overcrowding and disease.

    I imagine you meant Dedham/Westwood (not Westford)?
    
    Mark.

    Yup, (otherwise a veeery wide median !)
    

    
      I've been asked to put a note in here about the NH Moose hunt,
    from a member of the NH Wildlife Federation. 
    
      It seems that in the next session of the NH State Legislature,
    the annual Moose hunt will be brought up by NH Fish and Game. They
    want to continue the hunt but change the dates and possibly expand
    the number of days. Well...apparrently the Director of F&G is receiving
    alot of negative mail from anti hunt advocates. The Director would
    like to go to these Moose hearings with more pro hunt letters than
    anti letters.
    
      This is where YOU come in. If you're from NH and want to see the
    hunt continue, take the time to write a simple letter stating you
    want to see it continue. The address is:
    
                           Director
                           NH Fish and Game Dept.
                           2 Hazen Drive
                           Concord, NH 03301
                                            

Did anyone else see the CBS evening news last night?  The last story 
was one where anti's were in the woods harassing hunters.  From the 
patches on the G&F guys and the police it looked like it was in 
Virginia.  

Maybe if we could get the anti's to do something useful, like roam the 
boundaries around wildlife mgmt areas looking for poachers (not 
roaming the woods disturbing hunters), we could turn them into quasi-
allies.

The arguments the anti's were using were ridiculous - "Your in 
camoflage, do you feel you're at war with the animals?"  "We're here 
to stop the painful killing of these wild animals."  "We're here to 
take away these bloody playgrounds blah blah blah..."  I guess it's ok 
to "exploit" animals that they say are ok to exploit (cows and 
chickens as an example).  Maybe that's an idea, too...  Tell them we 
know of a guy who takes animals from the wild, pens them up in little 
cages, and then painfully kills them to sell for PROFIT!  Ol' Frank 
Perdue is in for it now! ;^(

The other thing I didn't like about the journalistic side is that they 
(reporters) only seem to interview Big Bubba Bogwater from Goatpiss, 
Arkansas who has an IQ of belly button lint.  If they ever talked to 
someone who sounded intelligent we could fight these ridiculous anti's 
more effectively.

Sorry for rambling but thinking about it again got me pissed!

Scott