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Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

457.0. "Spain and France?????" by UTROP1::BOSMAN_P () Tue Sep 05 1989 06:55

    Are there any French or Spanish hunters in this conference?
    If not does anybody know where they are?
    (obviously in France and Spain but where in the notes files)
    
    I would like to get into contact with some hunters with hunting
    rights.
    My kind of hunting is only allowed there and I think those hunters
    would love a, quite spectacular, demonstration.
    
    COURSING is the name of the game.      
    Regretfully the State are too far away and therefore too expensive to
    excercise my specialists.             
    
    Please help, it is almost autumn.
    
    
    Peter
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457.1Is italy close???ROULET::BINGTue Sep 05 1989 08:0410
    
    Hello Peter, I dont know of anyone in France but I am in contact
    with a fellow employee who lives in Italy.
    His name if Fillipo Greco. He can be reached at tossu1::fillipo
    
    He seems to be a real nice guy, and he is planning a trip to the
    USA in November.If you need some info or help drop me a line
    and I'll see what I can do. Tell Fillipo i sent you his name and
    that I said hello. Good luck.....
                                     Walt
457.2No-Go area!UTROP1::BOSMAN_PTue Sep 05 1989 09:339
    Thanks for the reply but Italy is a no-go area for Coursing longdogs.
    In Europe only England, France, Spain and Hongary still allo this 
    ancient hunting method.
    Hungary is out since it is near impossible to get behind the Iron
    Curtain with dogs and England is "No dogs allowed".
    So I am affraid only France or Spain will do.
    
    Btw is coursing practised in the USA and/or allowed in most States?
            
457.3What is Coursing?DNEAST::AVERELL_MICHTue Sep 05 1989 13:401
    
457.4True huntingUTROP1::BOSMAN_PWed Sep 06 1989 04:1721
    A "natural" way to hunt. 
    Falconry is with Birds of prey.
    Ferreting ,, ,, Ferrets.
    Coursing ,,  ,, longdogs.
    
    Coursing is an ancient way of hunting too. In the middle east and
    on the asian planes this has been practised for at least 10,000 years.
    The dogs used are longdogs, this is sighthounds or gazehounds.
    Hunting rabbits with whippets is not true coursing although it is
    hunting with a longdog.
    Hunting deer, gazelle, hare, coyote, jackal etc. is true coursing.
    Most suitable are Deerhounds, Salukis, Lurchers and some Greyhounds.
    Most succesfull and adaptable are Salukis and Lurchers. Lurchers
    because they are bred for the purpose and Salukis because they have
    been bred for the purpose for over those 10,000 years.     
    You may have guessed I have Salukis.
    
    Just ask if it is not clear yet.
    
    Peter
    
457.5Maybe if you drew a picture...MAIL::HENSONWed Sep 06 1989 10:469
    
    I'm still not sure what goes on.
    
    Do the dogs kill the game, or do they just drive it to standing
    hunters, or do they "tree" it until the hunter arrives?
                       
    Thanks,
    
    Jerry
457.6No bullets please, give the game fair chance.UTROP1::BOSMAN_PWed Sep 06 1989 11:5524
    You accompanie the dogs to a suitable field/area.
    This needs to be sufficient wide and open since they hunt by sight.
    As you walk, or if the area is too large ride a horse/camel, 
    through the fields you spot the game. If you have the dog sure did
    too.
    Now you remove their collars and off they go. They will pull a deer
    down but will be hard put to kill it so you help with a knife. A
    hare they will shake quite dead. A fox/coyote/jackal is likely to
    put up a fight and might injure the dogs, although this will not
    put them off you would like to stop a fight ASAP and put the victim
    out of suffering.
    Normaly hare are the game so it is a clean sport in general.
                            
    If law or other surcomstances permit live game then a lure in the
    form of an artificial hare is used.
    Their are very strict and elaborate rules for competition coursing
    wether lure or live.
    This competition originates from early 1800 with the first Wateloo
    Cup.
    This event has been organised anuallly ever since.
    
    This help?
    
    Peter
457.7Don't croud themUTROP1::BOSMAN_PWed Sep 06 1989 11:562
    Forgot, you use two dogs at a time.