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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

342.0. "Knight MK-85" by SALEM::MACGREGOR (I'm the NRA) Tue Jan 24 1989 12:52

    In a recent North American Hunter magazine I saw an ad for a different
    type muzzleloader than I was use to seeing. It looked like a modern
    firearm, which it actually is, a modern muzzleloader from,
    cioncidently, Modern Muzzle Loading, Inc. The model is the Knight
    MK-85. it has many different stocks to choose from, composite to
    laminated wood to walnut. It also had many other features, adjustable
    trigger, double safety with in-line ignition, and only 7 lbs.  
    It is drilled and tapped for a scope and uses Lothar/Walther barrells.
    It has a faster rate of twist. One hunter is using a 180 grn. .44
    mag bullett with plastic sabots fired out of a .50 caliber. It comes
    in .45, .50 and .54 calibers. Prices are a little high. $480 for
    walnut stocks, $520 for laminated stocks, and $560 for a stainless
    steel rifle. 1 in 24 inch twist for .45 and 1 in 32 inch twist for
    .50 and .54 caliber.
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342.1Smokepole with a composite stock,ick!!!IOENG::TESTAGROSSAdtn 297-7581Thu Jan 26 1989 10:227
    I've seen them also! They don't really appeal to me personally.
    Part of the fun of hunting with one is knowing the gun hasn't changed
    much in 100+ years! Seems like way too much money to spend on a
    low performance, no-esthetic value gun.
    
    But in the same breath, I hunt with a compound bow also! So to each
    his own, I guess.
342.2don't stand in the way of progress?SALEM::MACGREGORI'm the NRASat Jan 28 1989 08:159
    yeah I know what you mean-.1. I also hunt with a compound but I
    am looking at getting a new one this year. I am looking at getting
    a Martin Cougar Magnum. What do you think of this bow? What do you
    hunt with? The season has only been over for a month but I can't
    wait to get out there again. The price of the MK-85 is very, very
    expensive and I think if I do get a blackpowder rifle this year
    I will end up getting a Thompson Center Hunter. Have you any good
    or bad points about his rifle? 
    							Bret
342.3DOES IT COME WITH A 3-9X SCOPE?ATEAM::AYOTTEMon Jan 30 1989 08:5120
      Better check the laws in your area/state before purchasing any
    of these "modern" muzzleloaders.  Although most states specify the
    type of ignition some states require that the ignition system be
    exposed to the elements.  I believe that the MK-85 uses a percussion
    cap that is protected by a bolt "action" which would make it an
    illegal hunting weapon in some places.
    
      As far as getting a Renegade Hunter goes... you've made a good
    choice.  The only recommendation I have is to trash the sights and
    put on the Hawken setup.  You might consider a Lyman peep or you
    could do like a friend of mine did and have Remington sights installed.
    With any of the Renegade series of guns the weakest link in the
    accuracy equation (assuming consistant loading, i.e. 80gr) is the
    sight system.  Others will argue that the guns shoot fine just the
    way they are and you could make the gun perform well on paper under
    range conditions (plenty of time to study the sight picture and
    make adjustments).  I'll never understand why they put 50 yard sights
    on a 100 yard gun.
    
    -Dave