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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

324.0. "INFO. NEEDED" by LEVLS3::DEVNO () Thu Dec 29 1988 11:44

    Could anyone tell me if you need to take a Hunter Safety Course
    to obtain a Maine Hunting license?  I haven't had one for 19 yrs.,
    but I'm going to start hunting in Maine again this year. Also do
    you need a handgun permit in Maine now? 19 yrs. ago, your hunting
    license was your pistol permit, how about now??
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Dick
    
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324.1don't forget last previous licenseNETWRK::GSMITHI need two of everythingThu Dec 29 1988 13:0420
    Dick...
    
    I get an out of state Maine license each year. In order to get the
    license, you *have* to show last years, or a previous year's license,
    from ANY state. I had a MA license from 1985 and this was fine.
    
    Two years ago, I didn't make the trip, but my brother and others
    did go to Maine. He forgot his license, and it's quite a drive since
    we are form Mass. They would *not* sell him a license. Luckily,
    there was a lawyer near by. He had to get a signed, notorized form,
    (I'm not sure what the official title of the form is called). It
    basically put total responsibility of any accident with my brother.
    He even had his Mass pistol permit! Even that was no good.
    
    Good question though, if you don't have a previous license, how
    do you get your first? Are you a Maine resident?
    
    You do not need a hand gun permit, as long as you have your license.
    
     Smitty
324.2Ain't like it used to be.MARKER::POPIENIUCKThu Dec 29 1988 13:0718
    The days of just putting down your money and giving the info and
    getting your license in Maine disappeared about 3 or 4 years ago.
     Now you have to a. show a past license to hunt in Maine (I think
    it has to be a recent one), or b. show a noorized letter that you
    have either completed a safety course or that you held a recent
    licence, or c. have the safety course certificate with you to present
    when you get the licence.
    
    Two or three years ago on the weekend before the deer season opened,
    there were two tables set up at the Kittery Trading Post.  One was
    for licenses for people who knew about the new regs.  The other
    was for those who didn't and had to get the notorized pieces of
    paper.  I don't know what the actual process was since I didn't
    have to do it, but there were an awful lot of irate people there.
    
    Someone else probably has a more detailed answer to your question,
    but the short answer is "it ain't like it used to be."
    
324.3TAKE THE COURSE,YOU CAN'T LOSE.NEBVAX::PAPPALARDOI'm the NRAThu Dec 29 1988 13:4014
    
    You should take the "Hunter-Safty-Course". The course is interesting
    and fun it usally 1 night per week for 7 to 9 weeks. Its usally
    $1. or free. Thou Ive been hunting steady for 21 years and had passed
    the course 21 years ago, There always seems to be a younger relative
    every 3 or so years that takes the course and asks if I'd go along.
    To me its fun, a night out, and a refresher course.
    
    Why not just take the course. You'll enjoy it as well as a refresher
    youll have the certificate and not have to worry about obtaining
    a lic. Youll be glad you did and so will your fellow sportsman..
    
    Good-Luck,
    Rick
324.4Conceal yesDNEAST::MAHANEY_MIKEFri Dec 30 1988 05:392
          You do not need a handgun permit in Maine unless you plan
    to conceal it.
324.5I support the policy ..NETWRK::GSMITHI need two of everythingFri Dec 30 1988 09:3513
    .3 Will the certificate get you a license in the state of Maine?
    
     Going back to my brothers case, he had his pistol permit, but that
    was not good enough to get his license. The reasoning he was given
    was that the State of Maine wanted proof that he had experience
    HUNTING, and they laughed at the permit!
    
     Again, this is to obtain an out of state Maine license. Perhaps
    residents are given different treatment? I don't see why, though,
    as we pay about $80.00, residents pay about $10.00!
    
    Smitty
    
324.6ALWAYS A WAYNRPUR::ZEREGAFri Dec 30 1988 11:274
    I do know a place that will sell a Maine license to anyone, with
    or without a previous license. If you need to know send me mail.
                       
                                                              Al
324.7What about the Experience level??SKIVT::WENERFri Dec 30 1988 12:0221
    
    	re .5
    
    	You have to understand that a lot of hunters are not used to
    hunting big woods, can't read a compass or understand a topo map.
    I don't blame them for being a little tighter on out-of-staters
    in general.  They don't really know that person's experience level.
    Also, I'll bet there's a cost associated with trying to find a lost
    hunter that they'd like to keep to a minimum.
    	A person died Here in Vermont in a relatively large area
    (Granville) several years ago because he was not prepared.  He did
    not have enough clothing, and didn't know where he was.  I have
    hunted the same ridge he died on and there's a road not more than
    1/4 mile from where they found him.  He got over on the back side
    of the mountain and got screwed up;  the mountain was star-fished
    shaped which didn't help matters.  No compass, lightly dressed,
    didn't know the area, no survival skills...  It's too bad, if he
    had the proper background it wouldn't have happened.
    
    - Rob
    
324.8Type of Experience For WHOWFOV12::DRUMMSat Dec 31 1988 09:3418
    	Hmmmmmm, I was hunting Sugarloaf in Maine a several years ago
    and we had one hell of a snow storm. I found my self on top of
    one of the local hills in a white-out!! I used my topo/compus
    to find my way out. I hit the road within yards of the car. However
    a LOCAL hunter did not. The search went on for three days until
    all hope of finding him alive was gone. From the time he was reported
    lost to search end we had 12 more inches of snow. He was found
    the following year 300 yards behind the town road dept. barn under
    a pine tree.
    
    	Moral, they should care about woodsmanship as much as they
    care about hunting experience. For LOCALS as much as for out of
    staters.
    
    	Just a P.S. I believe that as part of every hunter safety
    course there should be a map/compass use class.
    
    	Steve. one_who_was_never_lost_but_dislocated_for_two_days_once.
324.9WHERE AND WHENLEVLS3::DEVNOTue Jan 03 1989 07:165
    If I need to take a Hunter Safety Course before getting a Mass.
    or Maine license this year, where are they held, and how can I find
    out about when they are held. I live in Boxboro Ma.
    
    Dick
324.10re .8SKIVT::WENERTue Jan 03 1989 12:1816
    
    	RE .8 
    
    	I don't know whether the hunter that died in Granville was local
    or not, but I agree that there are also locals who may not be well
    prepared.   I think its easier for a person selling licenses to
    stereotype (not that it's right) on out-of-state hunters thinking
    that they may not be familiar with the woods, possibly not prepared,
    especially someone who goes north to hunt that's never hunted or
    possibly never hunted the cold north woods before...  
    
    	I also agree that a blizzard can really screw things up, but
    it is one thing ANYONE who hunts big country must be prepared for.
                                                          
    - Rob
    
324.11GUARANTEED you'll learn SOMETHING!FLDSVC::CABRALThu May 11 1989 12:3238
     OOPS...I replied to this note under the old system, and the reply
    is not here as well, so:
     Anyone who wants to get a Maine hunting license must have one of
    the following...a previous Maine hunting license no more than 10
    years old, or a certificate of completion of a hunter safety course.
    The hunter safety course need not be from Maine, but can be from
    Mass., as they honor out of state safety courses.
     As I said before, I"ve been a Hunter safety instructor for Maine
    for the past few years, and am continuously surprised at how much
    there is to be learned by experienced hunters and new hunters alike.
    I would recommend the course for everybody who hasn't taken the
    course in the past few years.
     Another question was asked if there was going to be a separate
    hunter safety course for bowhunters. Although there was talk of
    this, it hasn't come into effect. The standard hunter safety course
    will still get you the archery tag. Actually, a lot of people who
    have not yet gotten into bow hunting have bought their bowhunter
    tag now, so they don't have to take the special archery course,
    if and when it comes into being, and they want to bow hunt.
     With all the stink that the anti's are throwing into the wind over
    firearms and hunting, I think that safety and hunter integrity are
    the two most important factors we need to be concerned with. Every
    season there are stories about people shooting someone or some thing
    that they shouldn't. Up in York county a couple of years ago, some
    fool put a .30 caliber hole in a SCHOOL BUS! Didn't the bird 'n
    bunny folks have a field day with that. If we all tried to promote
    safety and integrity ALL OVER, not just in the field, we just might
    live to see our grandchildren enjoy the same privelidges as we do
    (and take for granted, for the most part).
     Sorry to ramble on, but ignorance and foolishness has no place
    behind a firearm. Once that bullet leaves the gun, it can't be called
    back.
     For more information on hunter safety courses, contact the warden
    service in your state.
                          
    Be SAFE
    
    Bob