[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

309.0. "MA doves????" by BPOV06::J_AMBERSON () Mon Dec 12 1988 10:06

    Does any one out there know the "rational" behind the lack of a
    MA. dove season?  It sure seems like there is a sufficient population
    of the little critters to support a hunt.  Just curious.
    Jeff
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
309.1How's dove for eatin'?TSE::LEFEBVRELook at Mother Nature on the runMon Dec 12 1988 10:215
    Ditto for NH.
    
    Mark_who's_seen_more_doves_than_all_other_game_combined.
    
   
309.2anti's win oneERLANG::LEVESQUEI fish, therefore I am...Mon Dec 12 1988 11:1310
    The lack of a mourning dove season can be directly attributed to
    the anti's (at least in NH). When there was talk about a possible
    dove season, the anti's went wild. They had a million letters to
    the editor. The hunters didn't feel as strongly, failed to mount
    a decisive campaign, and so the season remains closed. I seem to
    recall some legislation passing that outlaws the F&G dept from opening
    a season on them in NH. I may not be remembering that part right,
    though.
    
    The Doctah
309.3Tastes great::Less fillingKRAPPA::KEYWORTHMon Dec 12 1988 11:186
    They're good eating. Not much to them though. Mostly breast meat.
    I got a couple when I lived in Arizona (many moons ago). No, I don't 
    remember how I fixed them. Probably sauteed them in butter with 
    peppers, celery etc.
    
    John
309.4comments on preceedingMILRAT::JUCHMon Dec 12 1988 17:3623
    Barbequed dove is Marvelous Eating, right up there with grouse.
    
    Yes, dove (upland plover) was removed from the list of game animals,
    along with pigeons (not feral pigeons, I understand), by the NH
    legislature in February of last year.  This means that F&G no longer
    have authority over them.  Ironically, this was praised
    by one of the F&G officials as a "highlight" of the legislative
    season.  The next thing to go will be ducks.  Did any of the "hook
    and bullet" writers in the Union Leader, or any of our state reps
    warn us that this was going to tke place?  What sort of deal made
    it happen?  How would we go about getting it overturned?
    
    Jeff, I spoke to Rocky Bridges and Dick Cronin about just this topic
    at a DU dinner several years ago.  They told me that the reason
    they were not going to push for a dove season was that they feared
    they would loose all support of the Audobon crowd (not a bad bunch..)
    and, more importantly, much of the land now open to duck and upland
    shooting in SE Mass would be posted by landowners so that ALL types
    of shunting would suffer.  Dove, by the way, is the most popular
    game bird in the US....
    
    I hope Santa will get me an invite to a fancy southern dove shoot.
    Live free or die in South Carolina!!  
309.5CLUSTA::STORMTue Dec 13 1988 16:3513
    Yes, I'm afraid the anti's have gotten us on this one.  Too many
    people here think of doves as those cute little things at their
    bird feeds.  Apparently, the NH F&G got a lot of mail from landowners
    saying that they would post their land if there was a dove season.
    
    I grew up in the deep south and really miss the dove shoots.  You
    can get more shooting in an afternoon in a good dove field than
    in a decade of hunting in New England.  For a couple of years the
    daily bag limit was 18.  I think it is around 12 now.  Even a good
    shot can go through a lot of shells to get close to that many birds.
    
    Mark,
    
309.6Am I a hunter or hiker?CSSE::PETERSENThu Dec 15 1988 13:3311
    RE .5
    
    Mark,  I really agree that an afternoons dove hunt (mine was in
    Tampa) can beat a season of hunting in New England.  As far as cooking
    goes, wrap 'em in bacon and barbecue....mmmm good.  
    
    I have spent the last two months humping around in rain and cold
    in N.H. only to get exercise and a shot off every other weekend,
    I'm starting  to wonder whether my hobby is hunting or hiking. ;-)
    
    Erik
309.7Dove's in Rhode IslandISWISS::KISTLERTue Feb 21 1989 17:0811
    I had also talked to the Fish and Game Department many years ago,
    and the answer that I got was that, Doves were classified as
    song/perching birds in Massachusetts.  They also strongly implied
    that the MA Audobon society intended on keeping it that way.

    There is a Dove season in Rhode Island.  If you write to the Division
    of F & W in RI they will send you a copy of the game laws and where
    the WMA's are located.  That's a start.  The season starts in September
    which would extend your MA season on the front end.
    
    Dave