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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

300.0. "Tipping the Guide" by CURIE::OAKMAN (I'm the NRA) Wed Dec 07 1988 14:34

    
     I'm planning a hunt next year with a few friends and was wondering
    what you good folks think about tipping guides after the hunt. 
    We have gone on several hunts over the past few years and it has
    been customary to tip the guide. The amount varies with a lot of
    factors but how much is enough? Would you base it as a percentage
    of the original cost or use some pre-set fixed amount?
     We have been generous ( I think ) in the past but I'm really not
    sure.  Any thoughts?
    
    	-jro
    
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300.1there's more than just tippingMANANA::HUSTONWed Dec 07 1988 14:4124
    
    Though I've never been on a guided hunt, I did read an article about
    this subject once. The article suggested tipping the guide, cook, 
    skinner, butcher and who ever else is involved in your hunt. If it is
    a guided big game hunt, say out west, all these people are up before
    you and after you getting things ready/cleaned up. The article also
    suggested that you offer to help out with some of the chores around
    camp, like dishes, cooking firewood, etc. Although none of these are
    required they will be appreciated by the guide and others, thus making
    them want to work that little extra to get you your game.
    
    Other things the article suggested was make sure you are prepared, both
    physically and equipment wise. Nothing will bother the guide more than
    having to lend you something he told you to bring in the first place.
    
    All this leads to a better guide/client relationship and he will be
    more likely to take you again. If you were a pain in the a** then he
    may be "all booked up" when you want to hunt again.
    
    Again, this is from memory from an article, I forget what the tip rate
    was, but the author wanted to convey that it is only a part of what 
    can make a guide want to work harder for you.
    
    --Bob
300.2 TIP'S BUILD RELATIONSHIPSDNEAST::LABBE_RICKI'm the NRAWed Dec 07 1988 22:519
       Being a guide myself in Maine I strongly urge anyone to tip
    a guide if he puts his time and work in for the hunter, sometimes
    we may work very hard to get the hunter an animal and after he
    scores it's very rewarding to receive a small tip to top things
    off, this builds a very good relationship between us both, I'd say
    a reasonable tip would be a $100 and a very good tip is around
    $250. It's all up to the hunter and how good of a trip he had.
    this doesn't mean you guy's have to tip a guide at all
                                                  RICK
300.4another slant on tippingMILRAT::JUCHThu Dec 08 1988 17:2952
    My experience has been in bird hunting, not big game, so you may
    not feel what I have to say is relevant.
    
    I agree that all those who service you ( camp and domestic staff)
    should be tipped, especially if service is good or superior.  Ask
    the
    manager what he/she thinks is fair.  Often they'll add on a percentage,
    so the tipping is taken out of your hands.
    
    I've gotten domestic staff upset, both in this country and Canada,
    when I tried to help out with chores.  Again, I suggest talking
    with the manager about this.  Frankly, when I go on vacation I don't
    want to chop wood; that's too much like home!
    
    Remember also where you are.  Several years ago, in Canada, I tipped
    the breakfast cook $10 US for a weeks work.  She literally started
    to cry, and thanked me profusely.  I attribute this to others not
    tipping, but it still shows the scale of living we are lucky enough
    to have in this country.
    
    Now, about guides.  In Canada we use the same guide every year;
    we probably wouldn't go back if we knew we weren't going to get
    him.  So we tip him about $100 US, per person per week (remember
    there is a 25-30% exchange premium).  But we've
    also sent him a hunting vest one year, for example, and usually
    we get him a box of cigars from the duty free when we cross the
    border.  Because we're fond of all the guides, we usually pop for
    a case of beer that goes in the fridge in the guide's shack.  
    
    Remember that we are running our own dogs.  If the guide was
    supplying/handling his own dogs, I'd tip more.  In South Carolina
    our outfitter charged us extra for guide/dogs but we had a super
    guide.  I think we tipped him about $120/p/week.   He told us that
    he once had a man tip him $100 for 2 hours hunt.  They must have
    rich folks in SC.  (But then I just heard of an exclusive quail
    planatation in Georgia which runs $6,000 per week/person.  Whew!)
    
    I've also had guides essentially ask me for a tip.  On the average
    they weren't very good.  I couldn't get over their nerve!  
    
    The biggest thing is to realize that these people are making their
    living this way.  Rely on their expertise, and their good judgement,
    esp. if you are a foreigner.  Remeber that the people deserve your
    respect.
    
    I dislike places that have a pricetag
    on everything (yes, I've seen them) and prefer a quiet bill at the
    end.
    
    Just to add a note of controversy, what do people think of the practice
    of some outfitters to charge IN FULL 2 or 3 months before the hunt?