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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

295.0. "$64,000 Hunt" by SALEM::PAPPALARDO (I'm the NRA/GONH) Wed Nov 30 1988 14:47

    Taken from Manchester Union Leader witout permission,
    
    Boise,Idaho(AP)- He had to search for the animal for 7 days and
    it cost him at least $64,000, but a Plastow,N.H. man bagged the
    only legally taken Bighorn Sheepin Idaho this year. Robert Senter,
    who lives in N.H. but owns the B.S. Ranch and 7 Devils Outfitters
    in Riggins, bought the lone Bighorn Sheep permit at an auction for
    $64,000. The money goes into a fund to help manage and improve the
    species. Senter was the high bidder at the Foundation for North
    American Wild Sheep auction at Reno seven months ago and got the
    Ram during a recent one-week outing. Hunting with veteran outfitter
    Stan Potts, Senter hunted and bagged the sheep on Mount Borah, Idaho's
    highest peak,where Potts had spotted a huge Ram on the peak the
    year before. For 6 days the party climbed mountains, stared through
    binoculars, rode horses up canyons and did a lot more looking. Smoke
    from numerous forest fires made it almost impossible to see into
    the distance at times. A band of sheep was spotted on the seventh
    day, at about 10,000 feet. The final approach and shot took only
    a few seconds, and Senter bagged what state Fish & Game officals
    described as a beautiful Ram. Meanwhile, a Fish & Game Department
    spokesman said the agency is continuing its efforts to improve 
    Bighorn in southern Idaho. Earlier this month, biologists moved
    5 Rams and 9 Ewes from Little Jacks Creek in Owyee County to Cotton-
    wood Creek,south of Twin Falls. The sheep were collected by net
    and helicopter, then trucked to the new habitat. Another group
    of Bighorn is to be moved in early December from the East Fork of
    the Owyee River to Big Jacks Creek, both in Owyee County. Big Game
    manager Lloyd Oldenburg said hunter interest in Bighorn always has
    been high, but has picked up since the Legislature approved the
    auction sale of 1 Bighorn Sheep permit annually. Oldenburg said
    none of the money from the Senter permit is being used in the 
    current relocation because of a clause in the law banning use of
    the funds south of Interstate 84. The foundation, which auctioned
    the tag, is a frequent contributor of funds for Bighorn research
    and management in all areas of the state.
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295.1I'd like to get a permit for one.DECWET::HELSELI'm the NRAWed Nov 30 1988 16:2226
    There is also a big horn sheep permit in Washington State.  The
    rules for applying for a permit are interesting.  
    
    The state F&W had a public meeting this year to determine if they
    should have an auction.  I was against it.  Needless to say, I'd
    never get a permit.  The motion failed.
    
    So you enter the "big horn sheep lottery".  In Washington, like
    many Pacific Northwest states, there is a drawing for *everything*.
    
    The thing I found interesting is that if you draw a permit, you
    are inelligible to enter the drawing again for the rest of your
    life.  They don't give out many, so your chances never get better.
    
    A guy down the street got one several years ago and bagged his.
    He said he had to check with the warden before he actually went
    to hunt.  The warden told him where to hunt (which mountains)
    and met him there.  He gave him a few pointers and told him he would
    stop by at dusk if he had a chance to.  Gary went climbed for about
    4 hours, came to a ravine and lookked across to see a whole heard
    of sheep.  There were plenty of huge rams in it.  He spent the rest
    of the day dragging down the biggest one.
    
    So far, I'm out $15.  Probably $30 after next season.  :-)
    
    Brett.
295.2HmmmDELNI::G_FISHERThu Dec 01 1988 09:006
    re -1
    
    just curious...are nonresidents eligable for the drawing?
    
    
    Guy 
295.3I'll find out.DECWET::HELSELI'm the NRAThu Dec 01 1988 13:0018
    No!  Absolutely not!  You wouldn't want to hunt sheep!  It's boring
    at best.
    
    Just kidding.
    
    I'll check and let you know.  You have to buy a hunting license
    first and then you can apply.  If this is the case for a non-resident,
    it can be expensive.  Like Maine, they aren't giving non-resident
    licenses away for free.  
    
    Unlike Maine, once you buy a hunting license, you still have to
    buy a tag for everything you want to hunt. 
    
    So I'll try to figure out exactly what it would cost a non-resident
    to apply for sheep in Washington.  But if anybody applies and wins,
    you have to let me come along :-)
    
    Brett.
295.4Washington SheepDECWET::HELSELI'm the NRAFri Dec 02 1988 16:2846
    Just to let you know I did follow up on the Washington sheep thing.
    I pulled out the 1988 hunting regs and they describe grouse, deer,
    elk, bobcat, cougar, pheasant, duck, etc.  Every animal you can
    hunt in the stat of washington is in this book.
    
    "Your are wrong big horn sheep breath."
    
    It didn't list the procedure for sheep in the book.  I suspect that's
    because they never know what they are going to do till the last
    minute.  Here's what I did learn though.  A non-resident hunting
    license costs $125.00.  Also, a non-resident sheep license costs
    $300.00.  
    
    I called F&W and they told me that the procedure is that you would
    buy a non-resident hunting license for $125.  You would send in
    the $300 for the permit.  If you are drawn, you get the permit.
    If you are not drawn, you own your non-resident hunting license,
    but you get your $300 back.
    
    The interesting thing about Washington is that when you get your
    rejection letter for a drawing back when you are not drawn, they
    tell you how many people applied and how many were drawn.  For
    instance, this year I applied for a special Elk hunt in the Cedar
    River Shed area.  (my partner says there are Elk in there that
    can't even walk in the woods cause their racks are too big :-).......
    the minimum bull you can take is a 5X5 and they only give out 15
    permits)  So, when I wasn't drawn I got a note that said something
    like:
    
    		Cedar River Water Shed
    
    		Applicants 457
    
    		Permits     15
    
    with a "better luck next year" message.
    
    To get any permit applications, send mail or call Olympia, WA.
    Area code (206)
    
    Hope this helps,
    
    Brett.