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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

235.0. "SPECIAL DEER FORECAST NOTE" by NEBVAX::PAPPALARDO (CLEVER PHARSE.) Fri Sep 30 1988 17:32

    Found these stats of 1986. thought it might be of interest to some 
    of you. If you compare these with 1987 for your area you could get
    a good idea of success. If you don't have 87s data the following
    will still give you an idea as measuring wild-life is really difficult.
    Just like any forecast at DEC take this info and what you know today
    for your area and see what you come up with.
    
    Question:: Anyone have the 87 results relating to the following?
    If so put it in this note and lets see what we all come up with.
    Could be educational as well as Fun as most of us wait for the firearm
    season.   
    
    The following is the BEST counties/townships in each New-England
    State. Data as of 1986
    
    COUNTY/TOWNSHIP   DEER-HARVEST
                     
    MAINE:
    
    PENOBSCOT           3,145
    SOMERSET            2,250
    AROOSTOOK           1,942
    PISCATAQUIS         1,627
    
    NEW HAMPSHIRE:
    
    CARROLL               906
    GRAFTON               871
    COOS                  855
    MERRIMAC              746
                             
    VERMONT:
    
    RUTLAND             2,163
    BENNINGTON          1,662
    WINDSOR             1,652
    WYNDHAM             1,168
    
    MASSACHUSETTS:
    
    BERKSHIRE           2,125
    WORCESTER             699
    FRANKLIN              637
    HAMPDEN               531
                          
    
    THE FOLLOWING IS THE HUNTER SUCCESS RATIO FOR EACH STATE. THIS RATIO
    SHOULD GO UP OR DOWN WITHIN 3%. SO THE FOLLOWING IS A GOOD KEY FOR
    THIS YEAR. ALL DATA OF 1986.
    
    STATE            TOTAL-HUNTERS          DEER-TAKEN      SUCCESS-RATIO
    -----            -------------          ----------      -------------
    MAINE             185,000                 19,592          10.6%
    
    N.H.               93,409                  6,820           7.3%
    
    MASS.              69,000                  5,610           8%
    
    VT.               132,000                 12,753           9.5%
    
    
    DEER TAKEN IN 1986::
    
    STATE            BOW        M/L     FIREARM         TOTAL
    -----            ---        ---     -------         -----
    MAINE            302        27       19,263         19,592
    VERMONT          810         8       11,935         12,753
    N.H.             263       705        5,852          6,820
    MASS.            730       392        4,448          5,610
    
    NOTE: N.H M/L take vs Maine and VT. note Mass M/L vs N.H. more than
    half with less days than N.H.
    
                         
    Any other forecasters?  Whats your thoughts??
    
    
                                     Rick..............
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235.1Interesting Muzzleloader DataDELNI::G_FISHERMon Oct 03 1988 11:197
    Vermont's is low because it is a buck only season after rifle. Mass
    is buck or doe for 3 days after their shotgun season. New Hampshire's
    is a week (?), buck or doe before rifle season. I don't know about 
    Maine. I am surprised New Hampshire M/L isn't higher. I would expect the
    muzzleloaders in N.H. to do really well.

    Guy
235.2maine mlDNEAST::VORHIS_ALMon Oct 03 1988 13:173
    Maine ML season follows rifle season and is bucks only unless you
    have a permit , if you tag out during rifle season in Maine you
    are through for the year.
235.3BOOTES::KEYESMon Oct 03 1988 15:2413
    Here is some more interesting information on the State of Maine.
    This information was taken out of the Quarterly Magazine I recieved
    from the Maine Fish & Wildlife.
    
    For 1987 & for the top 60 Bucks in weight that were taken last year,
    Most were taken the second week of the season, than the third week,
    than, the first week, and than the last week. The weight facotrs
    used for this measurment were between 238 to 289 pounds.
    
    The weapons used for the above, it seems as if the 308 was the most
    popular, than the good-ole 30-30, than the 30-06, and the rest were
    a mix between the 35 Rem, the 270 Cal, and the 7mm, with 1 taken
    with a 300 Weatherbee Mag.
235.428 work days until Vermont...XCUSME::NEWSHAMMon Oct 03 1988 23:596
    	Re. .3
    
    	< 300 Magnum >  Did it field dress the Deer for him ?
    
    
    	Red
235.5NH vs VT/METWOBOS::LAFOSSEThu Oct 06 1988 11:4013
    excellent info... nice to see what's happening in the other states
    I don't hunt.
    
    further thoughts on the NH Muzzleloader take -vs- VT/ME
    vermont is a bucks only muzzleloader, and in 86 the horns had to
    be 6 inches or longer.... not sure about maine, but I would think
    their using the bucks only rule also.
    
    VT dropped the 6" rule in 87, but it's still bucks only... Ma and
    NH your allowed to shoot does.
    
    Fra
    
235.6Maine wardens NOT sureDNEAST::MAHANEY_MIKEFri Oct 07 1988 05:3217
         I started muzzleloader hunting two years ago  here in Maine.
    I only get to hunt on the last day which is a Saturday and the season
    is the week after regular firearm season. I wasn't sure what the
    law was for what deer sex, so I called the F&G and asked if you could
    shoot either sex or if it was bucks only. The first warden didn't
    know and the second warden said yes you could shoot either sex.
    When I asked to whom I was speaking to and if he was sure he said
    "well let me check to be sure". I was again given to another warden
    who was a higher ranked warden and he said that if you have a doe
    permit from the regular firearm season and you hunt in the section
    that it is good for than either sex is legal, otherwise its bucks
    only. I was lucky enough to get a buck but the second year (last
    year) I had to pass on two does. I beleive that the muzzleloaders
    should be allowed either sex like the bow hunters are allowed
    especially since they have been hunted for two months and are wary
    and a lot less of.