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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

216.0. "Dollars for DOGS?" by RT101::WAINRIGHT (KW) Sat Sep 10 1988 20:52


	In the last issue of the DRUMMER published by the
	RUFFED GROUSE SOCIETY there was an add for AMY...

	A four year old english setter who was responsible
	for "harvesting" many birds.

	It was a kennel in MASS and the price was 12,500

	Now I have thought about dogs someday and I am just curious
	as to what a "good" price is for a dog. Now I realize
	that there are all sorts of qualifiers such as untrained
	versus trained...but what should I expect to pay for
	a dog?
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216.1Depends On YouPCCAD1::RICHARDJBluegrass,Music Aged to PerfectionMon Sep 12 1988 09:4117
    Depends on what your looking for. If its a dog just for hunting
    and companionship, or if your looking to enter into championship
    compitition. My springer cost me $175.00 I'll get all the birds and
    more love from her than my $175.00 worth. Personally I wouldn't
    buy a pre-trained dog, because training a dog is my enjoyment.
    You could pay as low as nothing for a gun dog all the way up to
    infinity I guess, and who knows how good the dog would serve you.
    The free dog might walk all over the $3,000 dog. My brother got
    his first springer for free becasue it was sick and the owner
    didn't want it. My brother nursed it back to health, and it was
    the best hunting dog I ever seen. She produced more birds than 
    any dog I ever knew of. Her loyalty to my brother was such, that
    she would jump through plate glass if he told her to. She had the
    worst looks for a springer though, and most hunters looking at her
    didn't think much of her until they seen her work. 
    
    Jim
216.2BPOV02::PERRYMon Sep 12 1988 11:4055
    
    There is a wide spectrum of dogs and dog prices. There are many
    advantages of buying a started dog over a pup providing the seller
    is willing to teach you how to handle the dog. Let me try to explain
    what these advantages are. First consider that you are looking for
    a dog that you want to enjoy hunting over, a dog that is stylish
    and is a joy just to watch, a dog that has no faults or health
    limitations, a dog that produces birds for the gun with efficiency,
    a dog that is well mannered and well trained. Price is only what
    you're wiling to pay !
    Now let's consider the fact that you decided to buy that $175.00
    dog. You spend umteen hours working with the dog and then one
    year down the road you find that the dog is severely displastic,
    or has some other limitation that puts you back to ground zero.
    Now you've waisted a year of your time and your $175.00. Now lets
    consider that the dog's health is fine. You take your dog out to
    an area where there's birds everywhere and your dog needs radar
    assistance to find birds becouse his nose is better suited for
    smelling food in the kitchen, or maybe the dog produces birds and
    can't mark a bird to save his life and you end up retrieving whatever
    birds you can find. The point I'm making is that not every dog
    will turn out to be a good hunter. If someone is selling a started
    or a finished dog you can watch the dog work and decide right there
    and then if it's the dog that will fit your expectations. The biggest
    advantage of buying a started or finished dog is that there is
    virtually no risk.
    	Is there cost associated with purchasing, raising, or breeding,
    care and training and promotion of a dog ? You bet there is !!!!
    Let's say that you buy a pup for $300.00. The next step you do is
    get all the pups shots and that the cost for all shots come to about
    $100.00. Let's say that you had the pup shipped to you and that
    cost is another $50.00 to $100.00. Now let's say that your feeding
    that pup a top grade dog food that cost about $30.00 a bag. After
    the first year, before training costs are even considered. That
    pup has now cost you about $800.00. Now do you go away and board
    your dog ? What is that cost ?  Are you going to have your dog
    professionally trained ? Do you want the dog just started are do
    you want a finished dog ? Today's training rates will go from
    $300.00/mo to $450.00/mo. Let's say you only want to start the
    dog and you send the dog to a trainer for only 3 months. There's
    another $900.00. Oh, I forgot about training birds, say another
    $50.00/mo. for 3 months , that's another $150.00. So for a dog
    that's say a little over a year old and started, your cost is
    close to $2000.00. Maybe you're very knowledgable about dogs and
    dog training and you take on the job yourself. Do you have an area
    to train, do you have a area to keep birds, do you have the time
    everyday to spend with the dog ?????? How much is your time worth?
    Now what about training supplies and paraphanalia (sp?), have you
    invested in training equipment ? You don't get something for nothing
    whichever direction you choose ! Do we need to go on to consider
    what the costs are for a finished 3 year old dog ? What about the
    cost of a field trial dog and the cost associated with promoting
    the dog ?  Can be very $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !
    pat.
    
216.3LIONEL::SAISIMon Sep 12 1988 12:244
    	"what should I expect to pay for a dog?"

    	Alot!  As Pat pointed out, there are many hidden costs 
    	in dog ownership and training.