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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

185.0. "National Wildlife Federation" by DECWET::HELSEL (Well....isn't that special?) Mon Jul 18 1988 17:31

    I keep getting these invitations to join the National Wildlife
    Federation in the mail.  I suppose I get these from being o
    Cabella's mailing list or something, which means they are targetting
    the hunting community.
    
    I was wondering how many of you are members of this organization
    and if there is any value in joining them.  Many times, things
    like this have wonderful face value and when you dig deeper you
    find that it is really a big anti-sportsmen group like the Adopt
    the Assabet group or whichever it was.
    
    Comments about NWF?
    
    Brett
    
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185.1Brett, Here is your chance to get involved.VELVET::GATHTue Jul 19 1988 08:1928
    The national wildlife federation is very much a pro hunting,
    trapping,fishing, archery,what ever imaginal outdoor endeavor
    where wildlife is harvested by and used within in the laws
    of the states and federal goverment.
    
    It is made up of sportsmen like myself and you who contribute money
    for habitat presivation . They also have a slu of smaller state
    associations that keep an eye out on all state laws.
    
    In my opinion this is the most powerful and best organization
    that a sportsman could belong to with the exception of the NRA.
    
    If you want to find out what going on in state contact the local
    state assocaition. I have been to many meetings over the last three
    years and I am really impressed at the work they have done here
    in the State Of New Hampshire....
    
    I wished everyone who is truely interested in saving hunting and
    saving Habitat would attend just three meetings to see and help
    join the ranks of these hard workers.
    
    This organization is essential if hunting is to survive ( at least
    in New England).
    
    Bear
    
    
    
185.2Here's the address for others:DECWET::HELSELWell....isn't that special?Tue Jul 19 1988 15:1116
    Okay, Bear,
    
    That's good enough for me.  I'll join.
    
    For anyone else who is interested ( and with a recommendation like
    that I should think you would all be) I'll list the address.  In
    the introduction letter, there are lots of interesting give-aways
    when you join for the meeger price of $15.00.  This is one year's
    dues!
    
    
    		National Wildlife Federation
    		1412 Sixteenth Street, NW
    		Washington, DC 20077
    
    Brett.
185.3controversy re: NWFSMURF::JUCHThu Aug 11 1988 13:2215
    Hi-
    
    Bill Hanus identifies the NWF as the people who brought us steel
    shot.  He feels that they are no better than Friends of the Animals.
    Rumor has it that their next move will be to agitate for steel shot
    for all types of shooting.
    
    I belong to Quail Unlimited, DU, and Ruffed Grouse Society.  (and
    NRA).  I feel these others organizations DIRECTLY affect the sports
    and species I participate in/with.
    
    I'd ask some questions first.
    
    Bill
    
185.4your point is well made..VELVET::GATHThu Aug 11 1988 14:3681
    I am not sure they brought us steel shot however you are correct
    in that they did support steel shot.....
    
    This is about the only issue that I may dissagree with them on..
    ( That I know of any way )
    
    I say may because I still don't know if I am being brained washed.
    I try to read both sides and I am not convinced that there are as
    many deaths in waterfowl contributed to the injestion of lead shot.
    
    My association with the state affiliate here in New Hampshire
    is that they are the hardest working bunch of people I ever saw
    trying to keep our local rights to fish, hunt and trap in the
    state of New Hampshire..
    
    They have waged some political battles that are on the scale with
    the civil war and I think they have been effective...
    
    They also have so many different issues that address that they are
    extreemly undermaned...
    
    Beleive me I have belonged to The Ruffed Grouse Society and ducks
    unlimited and the state chapter in New Hampshire does all the
    local work at our state house. If you enjoy hunting and you want
    to see it for our children and there children then I suggest
    you get involved.
    
    They address The issues that pertain to the Fish and game dept.
    				Laws about hunting
    				laws about fishing
    				laws about trapping
    				laws about common land
    				enviromental considerations
    				obstruction on our rivers
    				public access
    the list just goes on and on
    
    it is made up of all the gun clubs and other interest groups in
    the state.
    such as some of the local clubs.
    salmon unlimited
    Tu
    Bear hunters 
    wild turkey federation
    trappers association
    our club, your club. It is what we want it to be...
    
    Canidly I personally don't agrree with every issue that the Nra
    has stood for but I will say I am 100 % NRA. The Nra has seldom
    compormises ( sp ). and here is purhaps where most of us at
    one time our another would have given in... I for one am
    glad the NRA takes such a hardline stance. Hell I would have given
    in,
    
    Purhaps this is what the National Wildlife Federation and many of
    the states for that matter did was give in too soon and didn't question
    the information as presented to us..
    
    I think we all want whats best for the ducks its just too complicated
    a issue to say hey this maney million die from this and if we
    substitute this it will save that many million ducks.
    
    Of course I live in area where the ducks are not concintrated to the
    levels that we have a chance to observe the deaths by lead injestion.
    
    To answer your question Bill, I beleive the National Wildlife
    Federation is made up of sportsmen and purhaps this steel shot
    issue is giant mistake. It however does not whipe out all the good
    it has done and or will do for us. Why if we were to convince them
    they were wrong they would work to undo it. I haven't heard too
    convincing arguements against steel shot but there has been a lot
    doubt cast upon the figures that were presented....
    
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    Will we ever be required to use steel shot for upland game?
    God I hope not. I don't think it could ever happen. But maybe
    I am Niave.
    
    bear
                                          
185.5Ha!DECWET::HELSELLegitimate sporting purposeTue Jun 19 1990 13:4114
    I might as well update my experience with NWF.  I had sent them the
    check for the amount they requested back in 1988.  They promise all
    kinds of stuff including the standard magazine.  About 6 months later
    it occurred to me that I never got a response.   So I sent a letter
    with a copy of my cancelled check stating that I never got any type of
    a response.....including the standard magazine.
    
    Now, what?, another 18 months later........no response.
    
    Do I have to tell you how I feel about them?
    
    I hope they put my money to good use.
    
    /brett