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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

155.0. "Hunting Movies" by DECWET::HELSEL (Well....isn't that special?) Fri Apr 15 1988 20:01

    One of the things that I do during the off season is take in a hunting
    film or two if I see them at the local video store.  This is a nice
    way to keep your mind on hunting tactics and also, if you are doing
    a lot off scouting, you sometimes get useful tips.
    
    I am proposing that we use this note for listing hunting movies
    we've seen.  Not just good ones, but bad ones as well.  This way,
    if one of us sees one in the local video store, we may know whether
    or not to rent it.
    
    I suggest the movie be entered as a reply to this note.  For the
    title of the reply, enter the EXACT title of the movie.  In the
    reply, include the people that put it out.
    
    I have seen two really good movies.  One is on whitetail hunting
    in Western Montana.  If you never thought about going to Montana
    to hunt, this will put the thought in your head.  The producer had
    B&C heads right in the film, still attached to the live animal.
    Another good one was an Elk movie from CO, I believe.
    
    On the contrary I have seen some BAD, BAD, BAD ripoff hunting films.
    One I saw, whose exact title and staff I can't remember, was about
    hunting Ringneck Pheasant.  Man! what a stinker.  It had two rednecks
    (didn't even have Mid-west accents) sitting around a fireplace talking
    about Pheasants for two hours.  It had zero footage of dogs flushing
    birds etc.   The pits.
    
    I'll enter the two good movies that I mentioned above when I get
    them back from loan.  If I see that rotten Pheasant movie around,
    I'll write it down and include that as a reply.
    
    Anybody else seen any good or bad "Hunting Movies"?
    
    Brett.
    
    
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155.1manatoba monstersMTBLUE::LABBE_RICKSun Apr 17 1988 22:229
      i have to admit probably the best whitetail video out has got
    to be MANATOBA MONSTERS, if you guys haven't seen this then I urge
    you to rent it, theres not a buck shot that scores under 150 and
    its shows the entire hunt all on snow conditions and how these
    outfittersdo it. their not your high class guides either these guys
    are real woodsman. write back and tell me what you think of this
    film.
                                                      Rick
                                                    maine guide
155.2Some of the "winners" that I've seenELMO::HOLLENTrapperFri May 20 1988 11:3624
    A couple of winners:
    
      "Monarchs of Alberta" is a dandy. All B&C whitetails here too.
    One of the guides is Russell Thornbery who is written up pretty
    often in Petersens "Hunting" magazine.
    
      An excellent bow hunters video is "Bowhunting October Whitetails".
    This one has Barry Wensel in it and that should tell you that it's
    worth the rental fee! Everyone I know who has seen it has been 
    mighty impressed...
    
      For those who have yet to take a deer, or just want some good
    tips on how to prepare a deer from the time the bullet puts him
    down, till it's on the table, get "Dressing, Skinning, and But-
    chering your Deer" (I think that's the title). The only thing I
    didn't like about it is that the guy in the film is a profession-
    al butcher, and because of this he does everything with a band
    saw. It would've been better had he used tools that the everyday
    hunter has, but that's a small point. 
    
    
    Any others out there?!
    
    Joe
155.3wing shooting and dog trainingSMURF::JUCHTue Jun 07 1988 14:3724
    I recommend "Game Shooting" produced by Holland & Holland/Shooting
    Times.  This British production covers driven pheasant, driven grouse,
    and rough (walkup shooting with a dog) shooting.  The format introduces
    the field sport and then goes back to the shooting school to show
    how it should be done.
    The techniques are not applicable to US trap and skeet but they
    certainly are to our hunting.  The instructor they use, Ken Davies,
    is chief instructor at H&H.  Even if you don't use the technique,
    the glimpse they give of British hunting is fascinating.
    The price has been reduced to  $49.95; there's usually an ad in
    Gun Dog or Sporting Classics for them.  The same people are bringing
    out new videos on Sporting Clays and I believe on Retreiver Training
    or some such.
    
    Speaking of Dog Training, I've seen the Gun Dog magazine tape on
    training and I wasn't all that impressed, that is, it did not hold
    my attention even though many of their techniques are innovative
    and valuable.  There is a two tape series on "Quail Hunting" by
    some southerners (Alabama?) which has some good shooting sequences
    but also is entertaining.  They have an excellent sequence on force
    breaking retreiving.  Sadly, they have excellent dogs even though
    they aren't steady to shot.
    
    If people are interested I'll get the full scoop on these tapes.
155.4Lets see good dog work.BPOV08::J_AMBERSONTue Jun 07 1988 15:1314
      Along the same line as Bill's comments, does anyone know of some
    _good_ videos on training labs?  All the ones I've seen were very
    basic.  I rented one which was titled "Advanced Retriever Training".
    There idea of advanced traingin was a dog that could do doubles.
    To me, advanced training means multiple marks, blinds, diversion
    birds, honoring, steady to flush, etc.  It would also be nice to
    see a duck or goose video where the labs didn't break and would delivere
    to hand.  The narators always comment on the "fantastic dog work".
    Meanwhile, the dog is breaking on every shot, can't handle a blind,
    and drop[s the bird 5 ft in front of the handler.   Makes me wonder
    if they have ever seen a really good dog.  Am I too particular in
    what I expect a dog to do?  Comments?
    
    Jeff
155.5which one?CLUSTA::STORMFri Jun 17 1988 17:0510
    Jeff, There are a couple of videos out with titles very similar
    to that.  I have one by 3M/Scientific Anglers.  I don't think it
    dealt with honoring or steady to flush, but the dogs didn't break
    and definitely delivered to hand.  I can't remember too many details,
    since I'm still on the "Basic" tape.  The guy has yellow labs.
    
    You're welcome to take a look at it if it's not the one you've seen.
    
    Mark,
    
155.6LIONEL::SAISIMon Jun 20 1988 09:155
    	Jeff,
    	  Have you ever seen Ken Roebuck's training tape?  Is it any
    	good?  I have his book Gun Dog Training Spaniels and Retrievers
    	and like it.
    		Linda
155.7Roebuck's Spaniel training tapeCLUSTA::STORMMon Jun 20 1988 11:177
    Linda,
    
    I have a copy of Roebuck's Spaniel training tape if you would like
    to borrow it.
    
    Mark,
    
155.8How 'bout it, Jeff?CLUSTA::STORMWed Jun 22 1988 11:407
    Hey Jeff, when are you going to start making your own video's?.
    There's obviously a shortage of good advanced tapes here, and from
    the stories I've heard about your dogs, it should be a sure bet
    :-)
    
    Mark,
    
155.9HollywoodBPOV08::J_AMBERSONWed Jun 22 1988 12:175
    Nah, I have a hard enough time getting them to perform for just
    me, let alone having them do it on camera.  Besides, who wants to
    watch a Lab run rabbits 8*).
    
    Jeff
155.10LIONEL::SAISIWed Jun 22 1988 12:244
    	Well if anyone does, Freda would be happy to oblige.
    	Squirrels to, with a minimum amount of encouragement. 
    	I keep telling her she's too expensive for that.  ;^)
    		Linda
155.11Hunting Ringnecks....KAYBEE::SAMIAMI do so like Green Eggs and HamThu Aug 18 1988 10:0717
    
    	I rented 'Hunting the Elusive Ringneck' last night.
    
    	After putting the dog(s) thru his(their) evening 
    workouts, my kids graciously relinquished use of the VCR to
    me to view the tape.
    
        If you enjoy listening to three men discuss their preference 
    in dogs, (I can do that with the folks I hunt with), or their 
    choice of guns ( see  above ), etc., etc.... This tape didn't hold my 
    attention for more than five minutes at a time. The actual 
    hunting footage was minimal (too say the least).
      
    	My advice is don't waste the two bucks.
    
    
    dave
155.12Hunting the Elusive RingneckDECWET::HELSELWell....isn't that special?Thu Aug 18 1988 14:409
    re: .11
    
    That was the movie I referred to in .0.
    
    It was so bad I almost demanded my money back.
    
    Worst sporting movie I ever saw!
    
    Brett.
155.13Help!DECWET::HELSELA thousand points of lightwt threadsTue Apr 25 1989 13:1114
    I'm looking for help here.
    
    I saw a movie last year on Mule Deer.  The movie was filmed mostly
    in an are of Montana called Flathead Lake or "the Flathead" and a
    little bit of it was filmed in Jackson Hole.  The movie was shot mostly
    during winter migration and had scenes of these huge-racked mulies
    moving South in the snow.  Also, there was a great segment on rattling.  
    
    All of the footage was shot in winter or at least in snow-on-the-ground
    conditions.  I would say the movie is about 2-3 years old.
    
    Has anyone seen this movie and can someone tell me the name of it????
    
    /brett