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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

149.0. "HELP TOM WITH TOMS!!!" by MARCIE::TCLEMENT (I'D RATHER BE BASSIN!!) Sat Mar 26 1988 08:19

     Well I finally got a turkey permit, how about that?. Now I have
    another problem, like where do I go to increase my chances of baging
    one of these gobblers?. (In MASS. that is.) If anyone out there
    can help me out with some hot spots or hot tips, I would appreciate
    it.
    
                  TOM... <-(NO COMMENTS PLEASE!!)
     PS: Reply to this note.(For all to share)
     OR send mail to MARCIE::TCLEMENT           
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149.1TOM TIPSCSC32::G_ROBERTSThu Apr 07 1988 16:5587
	Tom, I'm not from your area but I'll try to give you some tips
	that should work there.  As far as sightings go, review some of
	the earlier notes on turkeys, they were from the east coast
	area.  I hunt turkeys in Missouri and Colorado, mostly Missouri.

	The eastern turkey is not the range roaming type, as the Colorado
	bird is.  So if you find them some where once, chances are very 
	good you'll find them there again, unless the habitat is destroyed.

	They like wooded hollows near water.  Food ranges from acorns, grain,
	tender green plants, and insects.  Things to look for are large
	areas of leaves scratched up, tracks around water holes or streams,
	and roosting trees.  Roosting trees will generally be large dead
	ones with large vertical limbs growing on the side of a ridge in a
	spot that would allow them to exit and fly a long ways unobstructed
	in the event they need to exit the area quickly.  Look under this
	type of tree for their droppings and feathers.

	Once you find an area where they live you'll need to get out there
	an hour before light and listen for gobblers.  They love to talk
	in the mornings.  They'll answer crows, owls, and each other.  Now
	you can better locate the roost the gobblers are using, but don't
	try to get too close until after they leave it and go feed.  Then
	locate a place you can setup at to hunt.  Position either level
	on the ridge or down hill from the roosting tree.  Find a spot you
	can see clearly across for 30 - 50 yards some where you can walk
	to in the dark without disturbing the roost.  Setup at max 100
	yards from the roost.

	Ok, we know where he lives now.  Lets get prepared for opening
	day.  Camo, camo, camo everything, gun, face, head, and body.  Nothing
	shinny exposed.  Practice every day with your caller.  I use several,
	one slate type and a couple different pitched mouth callers.  DO NOT
	use a gobbler call, gobblers don't come to them, other hunters do.
	Call lightly and space the calls, answer the tom.  On birds that want
	to hold back I'll use a couple of callers, different pitch, he thinks
	more hens, brings them running. As soon as you can see or hear him
	walking up, on leaves turkeys sound like a man walking along, quit
	calling and get your gun up and wait for a clear shot.  The fact that
	they sound like a man walking along makes it important to make sure
	of your target.  Shot for the head, a body shot will only pepper
	him and he'll run off and die of lead posioning.  When he's down
	wait for him to stop jerking and flopping, he'll tear the hell out
	of you with his claws and spurs, put your foot on his head till he
	dies.

	Other tips:

	Use 3" #6 or #4 shot magnums.
	Pattern the shot, sent your FAX number and I'll FAX you a target.
	Camo tape the gun.

	Birds that won't come in, a couple of things could be going on.
	Could be with other hens, be patient.  He keeps answering your
	call but won't come, start backing away and call every 20 feet
	or so, this has worked for me.  He expects the hen to come to
	him, if he thinks she's leaving, he'll come.  When you hear him
	moving to you get setup again.

	Another trick that got me a record bird several years ago:  I
	had a tom that wouldn't come in, had another guy 100 yards 
	behind me hunting that was using the gobbler box for a call.
	When he shook the gobbler box I answered his call.  This POed
	the real turkey and he came running thinking he was going to
	miss out on this hen.  Hit him at about 10 yards as he running
	at me.

	Yet another, I already mentioned was using several different
	callers.  Make them sound like several excited hens.  This has
	brought one running too.  There is only one thing on that toms
	mind this time of year, and its now or wait till next year.

	If you have one talking and coming in then suddenly gets quiet,
	quit calling, keep your eyes pealed, and be ready.  He knows
	where you (the hen) are, but cann't see the hen, she should be
	coming to him.  He will be sneaking around looking for her, so 
	he could show up anywhere.  Don't get up and leave you'll just
	flush him or send him running.  Wait quite awhile before you
	give up on him.

	I hope this helps, there's only a couple of things more exciting
	than calling up a gobbler.  Once you call one up and bag him
	you'll be hooked.  Be careful and good luck.

    
        Gordon
149.2Tip for TomWFOVX0::DRUMMTue May 03 1988 16:0524
    
    
    	Tom: alot of good stuff in .1 if you read my hunting story in
    108 you'll notic I used hen yelps to locate a bird, If you decide
    to try this then you MUST follow this--
    
    	Befor you yelp you must have all your camo on, you must pick
    out a set up location for each point of the compass BEFORE you yelp!!
    failure to do this could lead to a lost bird. 
    
    	You see using a owl, crow or hawk call the gobbler will only
    sound off, but with a hot "Tom" if by chance you are close to him
    when you yelp he may come running and catch you in the open.
    
    	The bird in my story only took a minute to be within range to
    where "he" could see or hear me. I had a place picked out and was
    in set-up position within 10 seconds after my second locator yelp
    series and he Gobbled back, this time within 200 yards. That left 
    about 50 seconds before he could have sensed me and turned away.
    
    	Hen yelps, clucks, cuttin are great locator calls but be ready
    and you don't get cought in the open.