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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

135.0. "Big Time Poaching" by NETWRK::GSMITH (Double Trouble ) Thu Feb 25 1988 08:19

    Did anyone see the 6:00 news EST, last night? They had a segment
    on big time, organized poaching. The poachers were not commiting
    this sick act in an obscure country in Africa, this is happening
    right here in the U.S. We are not talking about they guy who shoots
    a deer in the off season to fill his/her freezer, although this
    is almost as hideous, we are talking organized poachers from Texas
    to Alaska who are taking moose, elk, grizzly bear, black bear, etc.
    Big game... They estimated that one FOURTH of the black bear in
    the Shanandoa Valley (I think this is located in Virginia), has
    been wiped out by this poaching ring. The gaul bladders are being
    sold for as much as $200.00, as well as other parts and the pelts.
    These parts are apparently used in Asian countries for medicinal
    purposes. Several professional guides were arrested beacuse they
    were leading the poachers to the big game, during the OFF season.
    
     What a waste of our country's wildlife! Makes me sick.
    
     Smitty
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135.1ITS GONE TOO FARRANGLY::LABBE_RICKThu Feb 25 1988 20:0617
      I MYSELF AM A GUIDE AND YES I DID SEE THE TAIL END OF THE NEWS
    TO SEE WHAT THESE POACHERS ARE DOING. I AM ALSO GLAD THAT THE GUIDES
    DID GET ARRESTED TOO. PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE HOW MUCH POACHING AND
    SELLING OF BIG GAME REALLY GOES ON IN THIS COUNTRY. I HAVE BEEN
    APPROACHED BY SPORTS TO BUY BEAR AND DEER WHILE THEY SAT AT CAMP
    AND DRANK BEER. I REFUSED AND DIDN'T WANT ANY PART OF IT. BUT JUST
    IMAGINE HOW MANY GUIDES REALLY DO THIS KIND OF THING. I THINK THESE
    GUYS SHOULD GET A MINIMUM OF A YEAR IN PRISON AND UP TO 5 YEARS
    IF IT INVOLVES AN ORGANIZED GROUP. WE AS SPORTSMAN PAY OUT ALL THIS
    MONEY FOR LICENSES AND MEMBERSHIPS FOR GAME MANAGEMENT AND THESE
    POACHERS TAKE WHATS OURS. SO IF YOUR AMONG THE MANY WHO DIDN'T GET
    A BEAR OR DEER OR ELK THIS YEAR YOU CAN THANK YOUR FRIENDLY POACHER,
    TO ME THIS P-O'S ME MORE THAN IF SOMEONE WHERE TO STEAL MY VEHICLE
    OR SOMETHING. SO LETS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IN MAINE WE HAVE A
    NEW "ALERT US" PROGRAM, WITH A 1-800 NUMBER HOT-LINE. AND IT IS
    PROVING VERY EFFECTIVE.
                                                     RICK
135.2BPOV09::JAMBERSONFri Feb 26 1988 08:224
    I agree 100%  Massachusetts also has a 1-800 number to report game
    violations.  It's our responsibility as sportsmen to report poachers
    and other game law violators.
    Jeff
135.3NO SHOUTING , PLEASE...SHOOTR::AHOUncle MikeFri Feb 26 1988 09:3312
    
    
     re: .1  
    
        This is not related to the note, but Rick could you please
    not SHOUT, as I can hear just fine...
    
    
                     Thanks,
    
    
                          ~Mike~
135.4N.H. Number.SALEM::EASTERMon Feb 29 1988 11:185
    N.H. Fish and Game used to have an 800 number but it's no longer
    available. To report offences you should call 603-271-3421 and ask
    for the game enforcement division. Is it legal to poach a poacher....?
    
    John.
135.5Getting too frequent I'm afraidPOWDAH::MCCARTHYGive every man his DewMon Mar 14 1988 20:208
   There was a country store in Northboro MA where the owner was arrested when 
the authorities found 70 undocumented whitetail dear carcasses in the guy's 
freezer along with bear and moose.  Made me sick when I heard it a few years 
back.  I've seen some other bizzare things too, like a hunter shooting a deer 
across a major highway, headlight hunting at night and have run across more 
than one 'baited' area where it ain't allowed.

Mike
135.6an interesting articleCSC32::J_HENSONBlessed are the cheese makersTue Mar 31 1992 11:2513
I just finished reading an article about poaching in Alaska.  The
author explains that it is a very serious problem and expresses a
concern that, if not stopped, it will soon wipe out the game
populations in the state.  He also discusses Alaska's airborne
game patrols, and how they have had some measure of success.
However, he makes a big point of how they are way underbudgeted.

Very interesting reading.

Jerry

P.S.  Oh yeah, the author is Russel Annabel.  The story appears in
the Jan. 1, 1949 issue of the _Saturday_Evening_Post_.
135.7poachers in national parks35966::GEIBELLlost in PennsylvaniaTue Jun 14 1994 14:4728
    
    
       Did anyone happen to see the show day one last night? they had did
    an article about poaching in our national forests, yellowstone mostly.
    
      They actually went to one of the ALLEDGED poachers house to interview
    him and he seemed to be quite arrogant about in and really made a game
    of the questions asked.
    
      they showed video of him shooting some nice elk, one even had 2
    arrows in it and then he shot it a third time, of course its easy to 
    shoot animals that are almost tame since they see humans every day. I
    didnt really get the impression of the day one reporter slamming
    hunters but they tried to make the point that this guy was a slob
    hunter. the best line was something like you call yourself a sportsman
    when you go into a national park and make it your private hunting
    preseve!
    
         He apparently wanted to market the tapes of the hunts, he wanted
    to be honored as one of the greatest north american hunters. he even
    bragged in a letter to a sponser that he had a grand slam under his
    belt and had harvested 27 big game species!!! all illegally no doubt!
    
    
        discuss.......
    
                                               lee
    
135.8he's not a hunter29633::DSMITHthats a joke son!Tue Jun 14 1994 17:2514
    
    I didn't see the show (can't stand the mistruths).
    
    If the guy is a poacher he is NOT a hunter he is a criminal and belongs
    in the BIG house with all the other of his type!
    
    If he is a poacher and they give the impression that he is a hunter
    that is a slam to all legal hunters, what is a non-hunter to think when
    see's us all lumped together under the name..
    
    
    Just my 2 cents
    
    Dave