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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

63.0. "What to do once its down?" by GLIVET::HUSTON () Fri Oct 23 1987 13:16

    
    I have read alot about how to shoot a deer and alot about what to
    do once its dead, (gutting, butchering etc.)  A note awhile back
    brought up a good point that seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle
    of that note. (The original note was on a different subject so I
    decided to start a question here).
    
    Once the deer is down what do you do??  I mean before gutting.
    I would like to hear what some of you do to ensure you do not get
    hoofed, by a supposedly dead dear.  I have yet to get a deer, but
    would like to know how you tell if he is dead or not.
    
    Is it obvious when you approach??
    
    
    
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63.1One way...LILAC::MKPROJREAGAN::ZOREFri Oct 23 1987 13:442
    	In one book I read the author suggested approaching from behind
    and above the animal and pricking it with a knife.
63.2Poke'emBPOV09::JAMBERSONFri Oct 23 1987 13:537
     I poke the animal around it's eyes with either a stick or the barrel
    of my gun.  If there is any sign of life, I give'em another one
    in the neck.  Also aproach any "dead" animal from behind so if it
    does "reincarnate" it doesn't do a job on you with its hooves.
    Jeff
                 
    
63.3BAXTA::DANFORTH_DANFri Oct 23 1987 13:5417
                      ANOTHER WAY
    
    	
    
    	Check the eyes.......
    
    
    		If they are closed, shoot it again..
    
    
    
    		If they are open, the deer is usually dead.
    
    
    
    I live in Maine and have hunted here all my life, so far this method
    has never let me down.
63.4a few pointersELMO::HOLLENFri Oct 23 1987 13:5532
    
    re .0
    
      Like a previous note stated, the best indication is to "poke at"
    the deer's eye with a gun barrel, stick, etc. If the deer still
    has any senses to it it'll blink, or shut it's eye. If a deer's
    eye/s are closed PROCEED WITH CAUTION!
    
      Another indication that I've seen in colder weather is that the
    deer will start to "steam from the mouth", almost like a constant
    exhale. They are definitely dead when you see that. Another indication
    (boy I hope there's no squeemish readers out there :-) is that the
    deer's tongue will "become lifeless" and droop out of the mouth.
    
      From what I've seen, if it's not thrashing around trying to get
    up, and the only movement you see is involuntary in nature (like
    the legs kicking but the head flat on the ground) then you can be
    rest assured that the animal isn't suffering and that the best thing
    to do is wait till the movement dies down in a minute or two.
    
      When that involuntary twitching stops (and you know it's dead)
    start making out the tag. This should take about 5 minutes or so
    and gives you ample time to know that if you start the field dressing
    chore after tagging that it isn't going to get up and run away...
    
    
    Boy, that first field dressing chore will be burned in your memory
    for life!
    
    
    
    joe
63.5Never Too CautiousMERLAN::GOGUENFri Oct 23 1987 14:4122
     You can never be too cautious when approaching a downed animal,
    deer or bear. One of the first things i look for is if the animals
    eyes are open or closed. I have never seen a dead deer or bear with
    it's eyes closed. Closed eyes could mean that the animal is in shock
    or badly hurt, a hasty approach could revive the animal. We all
    know what could happen if the animal was a bear. But a deer ! Well
    let me tell ya , a deer's hooves can and will do a lot of damage
    not to mention the damage his massive rack that he's bound to have
    will do.
     I tkink the best way to approach a downed animal is from the rear.
    You can start by just tossing a couple of small stones or sticks,
    this will usually get the animal ( if still alive ) to flinch or
    get up and run off, so be ready. If you can see that the animals
    eyes are open and the stones didn't cause a reaction it should be
    safe to slowly approach your quarry. A long stick, your gun barrel
    or something can be used to poke the animal. I usually kick them
    in the ass while keeping my weapon pointed toward the animal. 
     I hope you find this helpfull and with a little luck you can try
    it out. Muzzleloader season starts tomorrow here in N.H. and maybe
    I'll get a chance to use it again.
    						Good Luck,
    							  Bruce 
63.6LILAC::MKPROJREAGAN::ZOREFri Oct 23 1987 14:556
    	And on the eve of muzzleloader season comes this piece of advice
    from a first time BP hunter...
    
    Don't forget to reload BEFORE approaching your trophy.
    
    Rich
63.7TWOBOS::LAFOSSEFri Oct 23 1987 15:4510
    RE:.0 is it obvious? depends, if you came up on the deer and it happened
    to be facing you and its tongue was hanging out, eyes glazed...that
    would be a pretty good indication.
    
    Obviously if it was moving, that would answer your question. one
    good way to check if a deer is dead is to pick up a stick and carefully
    approach the deer and poke him inthe eye, if he don't blink hes
    dead...
    
    Fra
63.8A Small point....SHOOTR::AHOUncle MikeMon Oct 26 1987 11:5916
                                                 
       Another point was brought up in .7 that can make your
    trophy a little more "appealing". Once you've assessed that
    the animal is dead and you've done the necessary gutting, etc.
                                                           
      Take a few more seconds and open the mouth and shove the
    tongue back in the mouth... This may sound kinda stupid, but
    if you think about it, your trophy looks kinda "Gross" with
    the tongue hanging out.                                
                                                           
       Don't get the "wrong" impression from this, as I'm just
    trying to make the trophy look as "impressive" as it was/is.
                                                           
                                                           
                              ~Mike~
                                  
63.9ooopsDV780::WITCHEYSHOOT'EM WHERE THEY'S BIGGESTTue Oct 27 1987 19:215
    Another little point. I was as proud as I could be when I dropped
    my first head of big game and one of my friends took a picture.
    The little point is that if you do that, MAKE SURE the gut bag 
    isn't in the frame. One good pic down the terlet.
    Bill
63.10A gut channel isn't grossELMO::HOLLENMon Nov 02 1987 09:4722
    re .9
    
     I disagree. I've taken many pictures of deer hanging with the 
    field dressing split showing. Doesn't gross me out in the least.
    In fact I like to see pictures like that so I can see how well the
    job was done...
    
      Last year we took a deer through North Conway. Heck, one lady
    that came out of one of the tourist trap shops up there screamed
    "Oh my Goddddd!" Made me wonder if she's ever eaten a steak or ham-
    burger before. If so, all the dirty work had been done by someone
    else, and she's nothing more than a hippacrit for feeling that way...
    
      I agree about the tongue. Poke that sucker back in there before
    transporting it home. Two years ago I got a deer straight in the
    nose. It made an absolute mess of the deer's head. When I transported
    it I covered the head with a large "dark green" plastic bag. That
    was definitely a case where you'd want to hide some of the "gore"
    from the general public....
    
    
    Joe