Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    I use my 30-06, Remington 700 BDL, for deer hunting. For deer I try to
    use a 150 gr bullet. The problem is I hunt ELK at the same time I'm
    deer hunting, for ELK I load a 180 gr. 
    
    So the first bullet out is a 150 and the rest are 180's.

    I don't know how effective the 180's would be for an ELK, havn't
    gotten the chance to try it out. I do know the 150 will do just
    fine for deer.
    
    This year we'll fine that Bull and I'll let you know. (on bended
    knees here)
    
    Mark
   

    I was told that the 180 grain spbt was the most effective selection
    for deer hunting out of the 30-06....  as for the 308 most of the
    guys i know use the 165 grain spt... and out of the 270 the preference
    is the 130 grain spbt....
    
    RE: -1  I would highly recommend not mixing bullet weights when
    hunting (using 150 grn for the first shot/180 for followup) different
    bullet weights should never be mixed, as the point of impact will
    change as well as the trajectories. definately stick with one or the 
    other.
    
    Someone mentioned using silvertips for hunting situations in the
    firearms notesfile, I have heard some awful stories about this
    particular load put out by remington, and would never recommend
    them for deer sized game, more suitable for big boned critters,
    as they will never mushroom in fleshy medium unless a bone is struck.
    
    Fra
    
    

    
    I personally have use a .30-06 remington with 180 gr.  They seem
    to work well on the only deer I have gotten (fairly close range
    about 45 yards.)  I was taught to hunt by some uncles who all use
    the same above loads and gun and have taken many deer at alot of
    ranges out to 175 yards.  This combo has yet to fail.
    
    Another suggested setup, for woods hunting like NH, where shots
    seldom go over 100 yds.  Is a .44 magnum rifle.  Ruger use to make
    them but has discontinued.  The gun was a carbine, short, light
    and fast handling, backed with a 160 gr ( I think) my grandfather
    has shot several deer out to 100  yards, never needing a second
    shot.  The largest was an 8 point 210 lb buck.
    
    re .-2.  Never mix bullet weights, as -1 stated they will have
    different trajectories so you may miss the exact target, especially
    costly at longer ranges.
    
    --Bob

    Not that I'm very knowledgeable on hunting, I'm fairly new to this.
    My favorite selection for hunting Whitetail in the northeast is
    a 12 Ga. shotgun with slug barrel and slugs.  'Course, I've yet
    to get even a shot with that combo so I could be way off base here.
    But it seems that it would have the "knockdown power" and it is
    accurate enough for the ranges I have encountered while deer hunting.
    When I've used a rifle, I've used a Remington model 600 or 660 (can't
    remember which) in .308.  I have taken 1 deer with that.
    
    Rich
    

    Took my 2nd deer with a shotgun/slug combo.  Definitely went down
    on the first hit.  My only suggestion is to go with the slug barrel,
    with good sights,or to mount a scope, as the shotgun has limited 50-70 
    yards.
    
    Mark (who is climbing the walls with anxiety for opening day)
    

    1 st deer = 44 mag 180 gr, shot to the neck at 10 yards, It went
     down and stayed there.
    
    2nd deer = 30-06 150 gr, shot to the heart at 80 yards, It ran 75
    yards and fell dead.
    
    3rd deer = 12 gage slug, shot to the neck at 15 yards, It went down
    and stayed there. 
    
    As you can see there is quite a differance in calibers used. I try
    to pick the firearm for the area I will be hunting, except in
    mass were I pick the area for a shot gun. Be patient and take your
    best shot wile your heart is going 200 mph. :-)

    
      Geez, I've spouted my opinions on this subject in so many places
    in the firearms notefile. Oh well...
    
      For thick woods hunting I would leave the bolt rifle at home.
    Pick something "handy". Browning BLR in 243, 308, 358. Winches-
    ter 94's in all the traditional calibers. Same with the Marlin
    336 in 30-30, 1894 in 44mag, 1895 in 45-70. If your eyes are good
    go with a peep sight. If they're poor, weeelllll, a scope should
    solve that...
    
      Match the bullet to the caliber if you're a reloader. In other
    words, make sure you don't use 30-30 "style" bullets in the 30-06
    since they aren't made for the higher velocity.
     
      Lastly, match the caliber/gun to the animal. There is no real
    need to hunt deer with a big booming magnum rifle. Anything from
    a 30-06 on down to the 243/30-30/44mag power range is just fine
    for whitetails...  (my opinions.....)
    
    
    Joe
      

    I've shot several deer in Maine, 3 in Ma., and 1 in New York. As
    for my favorite rifle, I like the 35 REM.  I have a Remington pump
    in 35 REM with a 1.75 x 5 variable power Widefield (Redfield). 
    This combination has served me well.  I like the scope, as long
    as its at the lowest setting.  The only time I crank it up is if
    I have a standing shot out n a field.  To be honest last year was
    the first time I shot a deer with it set at anythng but 1.75.  The
    35 is a great brush cartricge, not deflected easily.
      I also think a 12ga. slug is very under rated as far as a deer
    gun goes. Deadly in thick brush.  Two of the deer I shot in Maine
    were killed with a shotgun, even though I had the option of using
    a rifle. Can't beat the knockdown factor in close quarters.  As
    Joe said, "just one man's opinion"
    Jeff

    I use a Weatherby 30-06 w/ 180 grn. In heavy woods I would prefer
    a Marlin 94 30-30 or similar type but I do not have the luxury to
    buy more than the rifle I own. (I got it at dealer cost - a very
    good deal) A point to be made for the larger grain is to make sure
    the deer drops soon as well as get a good exit for blood trail.
    I use my rifle and not shotgun slug for among other reasons that
    I feel compelled to justify the purchase. The real reason I use
    the Weatherby though, is that it is such a nice rifle - extremely
    accurate.

    Hi,
    Has anyone out there used Federals new Premere (sp) hunting loads?
    Specifically I'm interested in 30-06 150 grain loads. I've sighted
    my rifle in using Winchester 150's but am not real excited about
    the results, my groups are about 2 to 2 1/2 inches at 80 yards.
    I'm considering resighting with the new Federals and seeing if I
    can improve on this. Any/all imput welcome!
    
    Thanks
    Mike
    
    

    
    	I bought a box to try out a few weeks ago and they shot really
    well!  I Have a Weatherby .308 VGL with a Leupold 2.5x8 and cut
    bullets @ 100 yards with the 165 spbt bullets.  I am impressed with
    them for factory loads, but they are a bit more expensive (but worth
    it).  I strongly recommend them as far as accuracy goes, but I'm
    not sure about killing abilities as I've yet to get one with the
    combination.  From what I've read so far, most of the guys who use
    .308 in this notesfile have had good results in that department
    with the 165 grain bullet...
    	I would assume that the accuracy would be up there for the '06
    as well.
    
    good luck - Rob
    

    I use nothing but FED. PREM. in my 270 and have been more than
    pleased.