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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

1259.0. "Evinrude Alarm Problems" by MQOOA::FINUCAN () Wed Jun 05 1996 18:52

    Hi,
    
    I was just reading note 1000.* and I have been having similar problems
    with my Evinrude 140 VRO.
    
    The alarm goes off (a steady sound) when I start it up.  This only
    occurs in the middle of the day I think when the sun actually heats up
    the motor.  Could it be that this sensor is too sensitive?
    
    I also read that it could have something to do with low/no oil flow,
    faulty alternator or impeller problems.  I'm not sure any of these
    apply because the alarm doesn't go off on a cloudy day or when I shade
    the motor from the sun with a wet towel or something to cool it off.
    
    Any suggestions on desensitizing the alarm or is this a replacement?
    
    Thanks,
    Rob.
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1259.1CONSLT::DREWThu Jun 06 1996 09:3516
I have heard the same alarm on my Johnson 110 but only when
there was an over heating problem. THis has occur after I ran 
the motor on shore with a cooling jacket and then took it into
the water. It cleared up after a few minutes of running in cold 
ocean water. The marina said that the thermostat will sometime
stick closed. The engine heated up after I shut it off and
tripped the thermostat.

The low on oil alarm is a pulsing alarm. I've never heard this
and hope I never will, unless there's a real problem with
the oil. I carry  oil on board to mix with the engine gas
just in case.

When was the last time you had the water pump impeller checked.
This is recommended to be changed every 3 years.
Jim
1259.2I have experienced the phantom alrm also.NPSS::BUZYNSKIThu Jun 06 1996 10:1210
    I have 1987 Evinrude 120 VRO. The over temp (steady) alarm came on for
    no apparent reason a couple of weeks ago. The water pump was putting
    out a good stream (new pump). I shut the motor down and restarted a
    couple of times and the alarm was still on. I could hold my hand on the
    engine heads without discomfort so the cooling system seemed to to be
    fine. After replacing the engine cover, I restarted the motor and no
    alarm. I put another 3 or 4 hours on that day at all speeds without the
    alarm sounding. ????
    
    John
1259.3Back to the shop or overboardMQOOA::FINUCANThu Jun 06 1996 14:4519
    When the alarm sounded the first time last year, I took it to the
    marina to have it checked because I thought my pump was going bad. 
    They said it was only the impeller so it was replaced last summer.
    This seemed to solve the problem for the short term, but on those real
    hot days when the boat sits in the sun for a while, the dark blue
    engine cover gets hot even to the touch.  
    
    Sometimes when it goes off, I let it sit for a few minutes and then it
    start again with no problem.  Once again this only happens in the
    middle of the day because I can run full throttle in the morning or
    after the sun goes down a little in the early evening.
    
    I'm going to try it again this weekend and if the alarm continues to
    sound I guess I'll take it back to the shop or if I'm in a bad mood,
    maybe overboard.
    
    Keeping the oil on board is a good tip, thanks,
    
    Rob.
1259.4fuel starvationNUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighFri Jun 07 1996 12:2815
I learned that there is another event that can trigger the alarm, at
least on my big Johnson with VRO. That is, insufficient fuel flow.
Elaborating on this, if there is an restriction in the fuel line, this
could cause the engine to run to lean, which can be disastrous with 2
cycle engines, so they added that function. 

I have an inline fuel filter (OMC), and the first time I had recurring
alarms (and went through the checks you've made, such as investigating
possible overheating), I could find nothing else wrong, and changed the
filter as a last resort. It stopped the alarm. After that I began
carrying a spare filter on the boat.

Hope this helps,

Art
1259.5I might starve while paying to replace everythingMQOOA::FINUCANFri Jun 07 1996 15:408
    Thanks Art.  I guess there is no quick and easy trouble shoot to this
    problem other than to replace parts one by until it stops since all
    these problems could be the cause.
    
    It would be nice if there was a most probable cause to start with, but
    I guess that would take the fun out of owning a boat.
    
    Rob.
1259.6One last note.MQOOA::FINUCANTue Jun 11 1996 12:4012
    I thought I'd add one more quick note.  I put my boat in the water and
    as I expected it worked perfectly, mostly in my opinion to the cool
    weather and water.  
    
    The only strange thing that happened was the alarm going off as I
    turned the key to "on" and before rolling the engine over.  I turned it
    back off again and tried again with no alarm.  I think this has more to
    do with angle of the boat as it was still partially on the trailer at
    the time? Has this alarm phenomen happened to anybody else?
    
    Thanks,
    Rob.
1259.7ESB02::TATOSIANThe Compleat TanglerTue Jun 11 1996 15:0010
    re: .6
    
    Which part is strange: that the alarm sounded when you turned the key
    on the first time, or that it didn't sound the second time?
    
    On my OMC the alarm normally sounds for about 1/2 second when the key
    is turned to the run position to let the operator know that the alarm is
    actually working (or at least that the horn itself works - not
    necessarily that the sensors are working). As best as I can recall this
    happens every time the key is turned...
1259.8More than 1/2 secondMQOOA::FINUCANTue Jun 11 1996 15:548
    The strange thing was that it continued to sound (for 4 seconds and
    probably longer if I hadn't turned the key off).
    
    This is significantly different than the 1/2 second when you start the
    engine as mentioned in .7
    
    Thanks,
    Rob.