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1230.1 | how about a 17 | SALEM::NORTON | | Fri Jul 21 1995 11:56 | 10 |
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The US Coast Guard requires all boats to have a permanent label which
states the capacity (# of persons) and the maximum H.P. allowed.
The closer to the max. H.P. the less likely you are to be unhappy
with it. When you get out on a big lake you are most likely to want
more, generally speaking. It's like the potato chip theory.....
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1230.2 | Apples and oranges ? | FOUNDR::DODIER | Single Income, Clan'o Kids | Fri Jul 21 1995 13:23 | 11 |
| It would seem that this is only applicable to planing hull designs.
Sailboats use miniscule motors to push them along when under power and
wine glass type hulls have characteristics so different than planing
hulls so as to make this ratio less effective at showing anything
usefull.
As .1 mentioned, look at Max HP for given boats and divide that
into the boats weight to get what should be, the lower set of ratio
numbers representing the other side of the spectrum.
Ray
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1230.3 | Bigger is Better! | SUBSYS::CHESTER | | Fri Jul 21 1995 13:37 | 26 |
| Actually the capacity plate is a requirement for bouts under a certain
size. I don't remember the size. Larger boats have a plate that
states compliance with all CG regs at time of manufacture.
You can figure out the hp required from several books. The one that
comes mind is the Propeller Book by Dave Gerr or his The Nature of
Boats for a simpler look.
If you have choice. Get the bigger engine. You can always pull the
throttle back. But is very hard to go past the stop.
If you expect to have wildly varing loads. ie 1 to n people. You should
size the engine for the max load. Changing the prop pitch is also a
possibility to deal with various loads. I had two props for a 26ft
express cruiser with 260hp IO. One for light loads. Day trips with
just my wife, and a second 1 inch shallower for overnight trips with
4 people. (the beer for 4 people for week weighs alot :-).
The person I sold the boat to forgot to put the lower pitch prop on
when he took out 8 people. Max rpm was about 3300 for 30 sec. Then he
cracked one piston and holed a second.
KC
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1230.4 | Use the BIG hammer theory! | KAHALA::SUTER | Never too Hot! | Fri Jul 21 1995 13:44 | 20 |
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I think HP/Weight ratio can be a valid number, but like
many other statistics it's got to have a caveat of "all other things
being equal". Like prop pitch, type of hull......
For instance, many people have said to me, "I would really like
a Nautique". When I ask why, they say "...because they're really fast".
To them, the 255 HP engine in my Nautique means speed, which, of course, isn't
true. Because the prop is a 13 pitch and the hull is more a displacement
hull than planing the top speed is only 43 MPH. Granted it will get to
43 MPH pretty damn quick with just about anything tied to the transom! :-)
But, the point is that if you're comparing similar design
boats (with the same pitch props) then the ratio is going to mean
something, otherwise it could be very misleading.
My philosophy.... Buy the biggest engine the boat and
your wallet can handle, you won't be disappointed.
Rick
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1230.5 | I HEAR A COMMON THEME... | OTOOA::LEBEN | | Fri Jul 21 1995 15:33 | 16 |
| Thanks for your inputs. I believe you're all trying to say the same
thing...go as big as you can. Like one of the replies stated, <<you
can always pull back on the throttle, but you can't push past the
stop>>. Our initial plan was to get into boating with a cruiser, but
my wife and I decided perhaps we should walk into this instead of run
blindly. We have now decided that our purchase this fall will be
something around a 20 footer, full canvas, (for those nice cool but
sunny October days), and some toys for our 17 year old son and some of
his friends. BTW, he was much happier when we told him about our
change in plans. Anywho, there's an extremely large amount of boats
for sale that suit our needs, so it should be quite difficult to make a
choice. We plan on buying a used one first, so this makes it even more
difficult. Will keep you posted.
Rick_who_really_wants_to_get_out_there_and_splash!
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