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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

1156.0. "1994 Financing?" by DOCTP::DECAROLIS (Jeanne) Mon Feb 21 1994 09:22

    
    Does anyone have any information on financing packages
    for new boats?  What kind of interest would I be looking
    at for a 17K-19K boat (new), financed over a period 
    of 10 years?  
    
    Thanks for any information,
    Jeanne
    
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1156.1financingMR3MI1::BORZUMATOMon Feb 21 1994 10:463
From what i've seen, you need to finance at least 25K to get 10 years.

JIm
1156.210, 15.... sureKAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Mon Feb 21 1994 12:2911
    
    re: Jim,
    
    	They must have lowered the requirements for 10 and 15
    year boat loans, cuz the Nautique's got a 10 year note on
    about 15k and they even offered a 15 year note (ouch)...
    
    Rick
    
    Jeanne, when do we get to see this new toy? I noticed a portion
    of the river up in Nashua that wasn't frozen yesterday!
1156.3DOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneMon Feb 21 1994 12:5621
    
    Yes, I know of a couple people that have gone the 
    10-year *affordable* route...seeing how these boats
    hold their value....right?!!!....a 10 year loan is
    how I'd like to purchase a 94' tournament boat.
    
    I'd like to shop around for low interest rates.
    I'll probably get the loan first, (pre-approval), 
    and then shop for the boat.
    
    With the economy being the way it is, I'd imagine
    interest rates have lowered in the boating market
    as well. 
    
    So...has anyone seen what interest rate is being
    offered for boat loans??  Guess I'll find out soon
    enough at this weekends boat show.
    
    Jeanne
      
                               
1156.4COMET::KTM500::CBROWNMon Feb 21 1994 14:204
	Nationalcredit is around 9.5% to 10% on a 10 year.

	C
1156.59.0% from Eastern BankROCK::ROCK::SMITHMon Feb 21 1994 15:3912
    Jeanne,
    
    Eastern Bank has 9.0% for new and 9.5% for used.  I just called
    last week,  looking to re-finance my boat.  I do not beleive 10
    years will be a problem.  I have done it for 12K and 17K.
    
    Mike Smith
    
    PS: you are really getting to be a "real" boater/skier  ==> new
    boat every 2-3 years.  (whaler,baja, ???).
    but I was the same  (Tri-hull, baja, flightcraft) in 5 years.
    
1156.6DOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneMon Feb 21 1994 15:4815
    Mike,
    
    I almost used Eastern to finance my home, but went with
    Shawmut instead.  I do have a contact at Eastern, you
    wouldn't know what % you need to put down, would you?  I'm
    planning on putting down at least 4K.  
    
    Yes, this will be my third boat and definately not my
    last.  Boating is in my blood, I'd eventually like to
    have a boat for salt-water too!  
    
    Thanks for the info.
    
    Jeanne
    
1156.7ROCK::ROCK::SMITHTue Feb 22 1994 19:2615
    Jeanne,
    
    I do not know what amount they wanted down for my loan,  but
    I put down about the same as what you have and I would assume
    you would be borrowing about the same amount for a new boat as
    I did for my new one.  I would think 10-20% would do it, 
    but call to be sure.  (617) 599-2100  or 1-800-EASTERN.
    
    Mike
    
    Did you go to the boat show??  I went two years ago and that is
    when I desided I needed a new boat,  bought mine 2 months later.
    I don't go to boat shows any more.   :-)
    
    
1156.89% is a pretty good rateDOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneThu Feb 24 1994 17:1516
    Mike,
    
    I'm going to try and make the boat show this weekend
    in Boston, I don't think I'll come home with a new
    boat just yet....
    
    I'm interested in the Brendellas', Malibus' and of
    course the new Nautiques and MCs', but those two
    are kind of pricey.  It'll be interesting to see
    if 9% financing can be beat!   
    
    Thanks again,
    Jeanne
    
    
    
1156.9LEVERS::SWEETFri Feb 25 1994 11:294
    Check forward finacial at the boat show, they looked like they
    had some good rates....
    
    Bruce
1156.10Another way to financeMR4DEC::LESICAFri Feb 25 1994 12:206
    If you own a home the best way to finance a boat is through a home
    equity line of credit.  The interest rates are low, around 7%, and you
    also may be able to claim it on your taxes.
    
    
    Joe
1156.11DOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneMon Feb 28 1994 13:2016
    I do own a home but I just bought it, not much equity yet.
    And I wondered, would the boat loan be added to the total
    mortgage amount?  If so, wouldn't I be paying a lot more
    interest over the long term? 
    
    Mike S. is right about the boat shows, it's hard to walk
    away without a new boat!  Let's see, will it be the 1990
    Ski Nautique?  The 1994 Malibu Skier?  Or the 1992 MasterCraft 
    ProStar 190??  I like the latter!
    
    Nautique owners, what year did the no wake/no spray new
    hull design make it's appearance?  Was it 1990?
    
    Thanks,
    Jeanne
    
1156.12You set the duration...LEVERS::SWEETMon Feb 28 1994 14:5211
    Jeanne,
    
      You draw the loan against the equity in your house. The duration
    of the loan is really up to you. Last summer I refinaced my boat
    using a home equity loan, ended up with a 10 yr note for 20K at 7.5%.
    The only glitch with this is that if you were to sell your home then
    the loan on the boat is also due (because its really a home loan not
    a boat loan). The interest on the home equity loan is tax deductable
    (standard disclaimer...consult your tax attorny...)
    
    Bruce
1156.13Save the money on the front end24313::VOGELSteve Vogel - Ralston/Eveready & Emerson Sales SupportMon Feb 28 1994 14:5915
    A quick way to save some money is to join AWSA, look in the back of
    their quarterly magazine and buy one of the demo boats for 5-7K off the
    normal selling price.  I have been watching these adds and find that in
    mid summer the demos get listed.  I have seen them with as few as 35
    hours to as many as 80 hours on a one season boat.
    
    There are typically several choices in each of the catagories you
    mentioned.  The one I picked was the Malibu Exchelon LX.  It has a nice
    wake, low turbulence table, and plenty of room inside.
    
    What ever you pick I'm sure you'll enjoy it but I would definately
    check Water Skier (the AWSA magazine) for a real bargin.
    
    /Steve
    
1156.14Present value of future bux == less, not tax deductable.NOTAPC::BURGESSMon Feb 28 1994 17:1823
re                 <<< Note 1156.11 by DOCTP::DECAROLIS "Jeanne" >>>

>    And I wondered, would the boat loan be added to the total
>    mortgage amount?  If so, wouldn't I be paying a lot more
>    interest over the long term? 

	Generally, yes - though its future dollars, etc.
    
    
>    Nautique owners, what year did the no wake/no spray new
>    hull design make it's appearance?  Was it 1990?

	Yes, '90 was the new hull - supposedly the SNOB has a 
"similar" hull, but the wake doesn't turn out the same as the "real" 
Nautique.
    
>    Thanks,
>    Jeanne


	Reg


1156.15Bought the ProStar 190DOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneTue Mar 08 1994 16:5321
    
    Well, Mike S., was right.  The boats shows are dangerous.
    
    I went to the boat show, saw a boat I liked, and bought
    it within a week.  The dealer put everything together for
    me, got me the financing I was looking for....voila!
    
    The boat is a 1992 (leftover) MasterCraft ProStar 190.
    Came with a detachable faceplate AM/FM Cassette/CD! player,
    4 speaker system with amplifier.  (I'm more psyched about
    the stereo system in this boat)!!
    
    Colors are white/blue w/fuschia stripe.  Grey interior
    with dark gray carpeting.  Did I mention the stereo system?
    
    Spring....come'on!
    
    Jeanne
    
    
    
1156.16congratulationsSTOWOA::SBAKERWed Mar 09 1994 10:349
    	Thats great Jeanne, I know the feeling waiting for spring.  It was
    about this time last year that I bought Peter's boat.  It looks like it
    might be a least another four looooog weeks or so.
    	I got off pretty good at the boat show with just buying my wife a
    new ski.  She got the new HO LVT and she can't wait ether.
    
    Best of luck with the new boat.
    
    Steve
1156.17MOTTLE::DECAROLISJeanneWed Mar 09 1994 13:326
    Thanks Steve...this is the year I buy a dry-suit, I
    usually don't get into the water until mid-may, but
    I think this year it'll be mid-april!
    
    Jeanne
    
1156.18does she have a name yet???ROCK::ROCK::SMITHWed Mar 09 1994 15:0830
    Jeanne,
    
    Congrats on the new boat.  Now you know why they have those
    crazy boat shows.  This will be the longest Spring you have
    ever experienced.  :-)
    
    I certainly can relate to boat show fever,  I refuse to go to 
    any of them until I pay off the boat I have.
    In 1992 when I bought my Flightcraft, I was able to
    test drive it at this time of year.  It sure has been a
    long winter.   Although the snow skiing has been great.
    
    I too bought a new dry suit the spring I bought my new boat.  
    (some of you will remember the "semi"-drysuit I had before.)  
    
    Mike
    
    P.S.    ALWAYS remember to zip up the zipper
            before jumping in the freezing cold water.
    
    P.P.S.  So when are you buying the new tow vehicle to pull the
            new boat?  Isn't that how it always works.  Actually that
            usually only happens to first time boat buyers.
            
            "Got a great deal on a boat,  only 5K, AND did I mention
               the great deal I got on the new truck as well, only 10K."
    
    
    HAVE FUN
    
1156.19Wake BratDOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneThu Mar 10 1994 13:1913
    Thanks Mike, I haven't thought much about a name for *him*,
    maybe "wake brat".  :>)
    
    I was planning on putting the boat in my sister's garage,
    where she already houses a 1987 MasterCraft.  We just
    realized however, that the newer MC's are wider, and the
    boat may not fit.  
    
    Yes, the downhill skiing has been great, I can definately
    wait till' spring, I think!
    
    Jeanne
    
1156.20Way coolROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterTue Mar 15 1994 15:097
Congrats on the new boat, Jeanne!  I guess hanging around with Kathy made you
lean in the MC direction.  We'll let it slide....*this* time!  :-)

Don't forget, when you're ready to do a load test on your tow pylon, just drop a
note in here!  :-)

...Roger...
1156.21MOTTLE::DECAROLISJeanneTue Mar 15 1994 16:5910
    
    Thanks Rog....I finally have a boat I can trick ski behind!
    
    Yes, skiing behind Cathy's boat influenced my decision,
    though I was really planning on buying a 94' Malibu Skier.
    
    Get set for some fun gumballs this summer!
    
    Jeanne
    
1156.22Congrats on the new MC ProstarHOWLIN::NPAREThu Mar 24 1994 12:0412
    
    
    	Jeanne,
    
    If you have not decided on a name for the MC ProStar, here's a
    suggestion. "Floating Payment"
    
    I thought on using on my boat but it's been paid for. :-)...
    
    	Norm
    
    
1156.23 Fishing type NameMTCLAY::GALLOThu Mar 24 1994 12:338
      re.  Can you think of a good name for my new
           4 Winns Fish And Ski Boat I should be
           picking it up early April.
    
    Thanks
    In advance
    MIke G>
    
1156.24DOCTP::DECAROLISJeanneThu Mar 24 1994 12:557
    Norm,
    
    I like it!  So true.  The Pro-Star won't be paid off until
    the next century!  
    
    Jeanne
    
1156.25Just a temporary name ...ROGER::GAUDETBecause the Earth is 2/3 waterThu Mar 24 1994 13:088
Right Jeanne, and when it's paid off you can reliquish the name to the next
poor sucker who forks out the big bucks for a new one!  Of course by then,
you'll probably want a new one yourself, so you'll just transfer the name!  :-)

Or maybe when it's paid off, you'll give up "Floating Payment" in favor of, oh
let's see, how about "All Mine". :-)

...Roger...
1156.26KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Thu Mar 24 1994 14:1510
    
    
>      re.  Can you think of a good name for my new
>           4 Winns Fish And Ski Boat I should be
>           picking it up early April.
    
    
    	How about "Tow Hook" or "Hook Turn"...
    
    
1156.27Isn't there a name note in here???HOWLIN::NPAREFri Mar 25 1994 08:5113
    
    
    >	re.  Can you think of a good name for my new
    >	     4 Winns Fish And Ski Boat I should be
    >	     picking it up early April.
    
    
    	Isn't there a note in here with Boat names either
    seen/used/suggested. I always had penchant for the name "M.T.Pockets"
    kind of gives a meaning to the definition of a boat being a hole in the
    water for you to throw your money into. :-)
    
    	Norm
1156.29UNYEM::GEIBELLlost in PennsylvaniaFri Mar 25 1994 09:0011
    
    
     Mike,
    
      see note 415.* for boat names
    
    P.S. name it LIP RIPPER since you got a nasty hookset.
    
                                                                        
    Lee
    
1156.30A few moreSALEM::ABRAMSFri Mar 25 1994 09:3910
    
    
    
    
    	A name that I liked is Rock'n and Reel'n
    
    	or Reel Fun , Cut'n and Reel'n, Reel Tricks, Fish'n & Tricks
    
    	george (JOY III)