Conference vicki::boats

    
    Hey Reg,
    
    	I haven't got 1000 hours on my boat and by NECC's estimate
    of average hours per year for boats in New England I won't have
    1000 hours for 3 or 4 more years.... :-)
    
    	1000 hours is mumbled to equal 100k miles? Is that why Craig
    said he'd replace the timing chain if I traded it in?
    
    Rick

re               <<< Note 1041.1 by KAHALA::SUTER "Never too Hot!" >>>
>                                  -< Who me? >-

    
>    Hey Reg,
    
>    	I haven't got 1000 hours on my boat and by NECC's estimate
>    of average hours per year for boats in New England I won't have
>    1000 hours for 3 or 4 more years.... :-)
 
	I'm  "ahead of schedule"  too, or maybe you and I just got  
"fast"  clocks on (h)our boats.   By Craig's averages mine would go 
into 4 digits somewhen around the turn of the century - by my estimate 
it will probably be sometime this September.

>    	1000 hours is mumbled to equal 100k miles? Is that why Craig
>    said he'd replace the timing chain if I traded it in?

	I just might do mine this year anyway, maybe work on the heads 
a bit and re-build the carb too  - -  on the other hand, I might just
run it (-: 

>    Rick

	Reg

re: .3
>WMOIS::LEBLANC_DEN                                   4 lines  17-FEB-1993 11:57
>                -< Marine Engines/U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary >-
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    Marine Engines is Chapter 7 in the U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary Course.  
>    Might be a good idea for ALL boaters to attend this course.
 
Taking the C.G. Aux. safety course is a good idea for anyone. But as far as
it's relationship to this topic, chapter 7 is not going to teach anyone
enough to actually work on or maintain their engines.  At least not unless
it's changed from when I took it 4 or 5 years ago.  My sister managed to 
memorize the info well enough to pass the test, and she still couldn't tell 
you where to put the oil in.  

There are several good books on engine maintenance if that's the direction
you want to go in.

Rick    

re      <<< Note 1041.4 by GOLF::WILSON "Don't blame me, I voted for Ross" >>>

	Agreed !

	For my applications I'd recommend;	

		Truck engines 101  
		plus supplements for flame arrestor, bilge blower and
		wet exhausts (-: 

		Also, if you run a diesel (or two) get the text on 
		Marine biology, algea and other organisms that live in
		your fuel tank(s) and grow up to become line cloggers. 

	R

    How are engine hours measured?  My hour meter is part of the
    mechanically driven tach so I assume that the faster I run the engine,
    the quicker I add hours.  Is this normal?  How do regular hour meters
    work.  Do they just measure on/off so an hour is really an hour of
    running time or is engine speed factored in somehow?  Given the amount
    of usage I get out of my boat, it will be another 500 years before I
    hit 1000 hours!
    
    Wayne (who shows 245 hours on a 27 year old boat with original, rebuilt
    engine but doesn't know if he should believe it or not)

    
    The hour meter on the Nautique is activated by merely switching the key
    to the on position. This, of course, is the reason why my buddy's Ski
    Centurian has nnn hours less 14 for the night he left the ignition on.
    
    The hour meter in Happy Daze ran backwards... what a feature!
    
    BTW: Wayne, from your boat's past annual hourly rate you'll hit 1000 hours
    		in the year 2076.

re                     <<< Note 1041.6 by SALEM::NORCROSS_W >>>
>                     -< How are "engine hours" measured? >-

>    How are engine hours measured?  My hour meter is part of the
>    mechanically driven tach so I assume that the faster I run the engine,
>    the quicker I add hours.  Is this normal?  How do regular hour meters

	Dunno, it could be that they derive time from speed (rpm in 
this case) given that they derive speed from time and distance (got 
that ?)  But its probably the speedometer schematic - little flying
magnets and eddy currents or some such - I forget.  I'd guess you have 
something more analagous to distance, "mileage" ?

>    work.  Do they just measure on/off so an hour is really an hour of

	Mine is just a 12 volt motor that is wired to the ignition, so 
an hour is an hour of igniton switch on time.  It makes no difference 
if I an pulling footers at flat out speed, putting, or just leaving 
the ignition on by mistake.


	On the way to work this morning I realized another 
sub-conscious reason for starting this topic.  The 'burb will almost 
certainly make 100 K miles before the boat makes 1 K hours )-:
S'pose it would be kinda nice if they could turn their clocks over on 
the same day - but that would mean riding my bicycle about 5 K miles 
between now and September..... unlikely, at best (-:

    re:1041.7
     Actually, I have only added about 10 hours in the 6 years I've owned
    it so to put on another 755 hours at that rate would take almost 455
    more years.  I'll probably get wood rot by then or I won't be able to
    buy tune-up parts anymore.  I better stock up on the old style Mallory
    distributor caps the next time I'm at the parts store.
    Wayne

    I should probably just UNPLUG my hour meter,I average 240 hours/season.
    
    A good reason to trade every couple years. :-)  I keep telling my wife,
    "Hey,if you did'nt ski so much,we would'nt have to buy another boat."
    
    Get's me a new one every time...

    Well I guess I can join the club. I have 1135 hours on my 1989 25ft
    Pro-Line with a 7.4l Mercruiser I/O.
    
    
    Steve

    OK, I'll jump in here.  Certainly my '65 Correct Craft Mustang has seen
    well over 1,000 hours in its lifetime.  However, I know that the motor
    has been rebuilt at least twice (once by me) and I've all but totally
    replaced the stringer.  I've personally put, oh let's see, probably 700
    hours on the boat since taking ownership in 1980 (sounds kinda low, but
    I really didn't use it much before June or after September for the
    first few years I owned it).
    
    I know the guys that bought it off the original owner (who eventually
    bought it back then sold it to me) really beat on it, ran it *very*
    hard, and almost never did any maintenance.  But the hull is sound, and
    after some cosmetic surgery (and about $2k) it looks and runs pretty
    good.
    
    If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's seen anywhere from 1,700 to
    2,000 hours of runtime.
    
    ...Roger...

    
    Hey Rog....
    
    	Did you replace *both* stringers? Doesn't that vintage CC of yours
    have an hour meter?
    
    Rick

    Roger,
    
    You need one of them new Nau's. No fir to replace.
    
    And you'd be footin hot behind one with the 300 hp pro boss and 1.23:1
    set ups. I hear they are running a true 48 mph at 1000 ft above sea
    level.
    
    Matt

Yeah Rick, I have an hour meter.  But it was installed by yours truly during my,
let's see now, 6th year maybe?  Gee I can't remember.  Believe it or not my boat
was out of the water a whole summer while I completed the restoration.  Still,
I'd bet money that it had close to 1K hours on it before I bought it!

BTW, how much they asking for that '65 you mentioned?

Hey Matt, yeah, I wouldn't be upset to lose the ol' '65 for a new Nautique.  The
new no-wood stringers are certainly a plus, but it ain't the first reason I'd
buy one!  :-)

So how's things in the rockies?  Saw on the Weather Channel last night that it
was supposed to be in the 60's in Denver today.  Scum!  :-)

...Roger...

P.S.  You'll all be glad to know that there will be no more big snow storms here
      in New England.  I spent a good part of yesterday afternoon tuning/oiling
      my snow blower for the next big storm.  Therefore, the next I have to move
      it will probably be to exchange its place with the lawnmower.  :-)

    
    
    re::Roger
    
    Skiing,in the mountains and in the water is GREAT!
    
    I went downhill skiing Sat.,lots of powder.
    
    I went water skiing Sunday and again today,absolutely great,temps in
    the mid 50's and calm water,so calm it looked like ice,felt as cold
    as ice too. Water temp is about 37.
    
    
             

    Roger, what was that about no more big snow storms, I have about
    7 feet of party cloudy plowed up in front of my boat.....
    
    Bruce

    re: .17
    Me too.  My boat is out in the back yard, with about 2' deep
    snow, and a 5' snowbank seperating it from freedom.
    
    I don't think it matters much, with all this ice and snow,
    it's gonna be a while before there's any liquid to dunk it
    in.  My previous spring launch record of March 24th from 
    two years ago looks like it's safe for another year.
    
    Unless we get a serious warm-up, it'll be interesting to see
    what happens with Lake Winnie ice-out this year. Going back 
    140 years to the 1850's, average ice-out is somewhere between
    April 10th and 20th.  Latest is May 12th (twice), but that hasn't 
    happened since the 1800's.  I'll go *waaay* out on a limb and
    bet that it's gonna be late this year, around April 29-30.
    
    Rick

    
    Rick, i don't think you'll be way out on a limb. The way the weather
    
    has been, that is colder than normal, from what i understand about
    
    5 deg. since last fall, i think your safe.
    
    JIm

Yeah, I knew someone would pipe in about my comment.  Oh well, looks like I can
predict the weather about as good as the boys on TV, eh?  :-}

Dick_Albert

	The "FishTeaser" is parked on where once was grass but now packed
	with 2' of that yucky white stuff and about 50' away from wet but 
	driveable pavement :-(

	Now if I only had a 4 wheel drive :-)

	Doubt if my 88' Grand Prix SE FW Drive could yank her out?
	
	With 60 temps predicted I just may attempt the impossible 8^0

	My first launch last year was 10-Apr in Webster Lake.
	This year looks like an Ocean lauch will be first ;-)

	-< Tuna Tail >-

    60-degree temps predicted for WHEN?
    
    This weekend????

    Folks:
    
    I can't believe it -- My office mate found this neat little conference
    on boating -- AND I am a totally rabid and avid boater running my 42
    Chris Connie on the Great lakes -- 
    
    It's like dying and going to heaven -- I've spent the winter looking at
    the boat picture on my bookshelf -- Just moved her from her winter
    bubbling location -- Ain't doin' that again (Bubblin)!
    
    I have an engine hour meter for both of those slugs in the Engine room
    -- Best as I can tell, the previous owner repowered to 454 Crusaders at
    about 1700 engine hours -- I'm moving to Mobil 1 and Slick50 -- 
    
    Now, if I can just figure out what that loud sucking sound is as I
    motor down lake!!!
    
    Master of The USS SCURVY QUEEN,
    
    Cap'n Ahab

    Your comment on the picture of your boat caused an instant flick of my
    head to the picture that hangs above my desk. Its a photo in a 1993
    calander of the tiny bay that I send my summer in.
    
    Down here its heading into winter so please forgive me for being
    depressed. The photo was taken from 3000ft and has mine and several
    friends boats in it. The sun is out and the sea is clean and clear and
    even in the darkest moments it helps.
    
    From down here there is only 6 months of winter to come and 8 months
    before I'll be on that beach, can in hand and not thinking of Digital.

    Tis true -- It's always summer somewhere and now it's my turn!!  Summer
    B just around the corner.  I'm going down to the Scurvy Queen on SUnday
    to clean her up a little before the First Mate see's her.  The First
    Mate doesn't react real well to seing the Queen with a winter's worth
    of wear on her.  Seems the First Mate is a flat water boater --
    
    Your little bay sounds like a piece of heaven -- On the Great Lakes,
    one of the outstanding cruising grounds is the "North Channel" in Lake
    Huron -- It's in Canadian waters.
    
    I went on a two week cruise there when I had a 24 footer -- My plan is
    to take the 42 back there next year (94).  This year I plan to cruise
    Lake Erie extensively and am alread making plans.
    
    I'm going to have to remember to take my cruising guide home -- 
    
    Since U R heading into winter, U need to have a winter project -- Mine
    was to repair my RADAR -- I got an old DECCA Super 50 from a guy
    getting out of boating for $50.00 -- I took it to a marine electronic
    repair shop and they said it would cost me around $500 to fix it -- I
    paid them $75.00 for the assessment and the schematics -- They told me
    where the problems were -- Of course it's the start of boating season
    and I have yet to fix it --- It is, however, in pieces in my basement
    -- I'll have it done by MAY  - Now if  I can just figure out what
    year!!
    
    Regards,
    
    Cap'n