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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

1009.0. "Evinrude oil alarm sounding ?" by CSC32::MONROE () Fri Jul 17 1992 19:58

    
    
      I've got a '87 Evinrude 110, that has a intermittent problem. 
    
      When idling or trolling for 15-30 minutes the oil buzzard goes
    on. I've had it in the shop a few time and they have not found 
    anything wrong with, yet the provblem still occurs. I've checked
    the oil level in the tank (seperate from the fule tank), for any
    leaks, swapped the fuel/oil line and bulb. The only thing I can 
    figure is that the alarm is for something else, possibly for 
    temperature since its sitting at low speed and not cooling it 
    enough. I've been able to turn the motor off and sit for a while
    and it clears up and also that by increasing the speed it will 
    stop. 
      Has anyone heard of this type of problem or have any ideas ?
    
       tom 
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1009.1SNMFS::BOWMANMon Jul 20 1992 04:1113
    
    
    	id tend to look at an o/heat problem 
    next time it does it id check the voltage on the sender unit.
    check the manual to see what it should be (guess would be 12 volts 
    if temp is ok)  also the sender unit may be triggering 
    too soon.
    
    how long since you changed the impeller. 
    do you dry start the motor before putting it in water as this 
    will wreck an impeller very quickly.
    
    
1009.2SNMFS::BOWMANMon Jul 20 1992 04:147
    
    
    it may also be the thermostat
    
    the other reg
    
    
1009.3DNEAST::VORHIS_ALMon Jul 20 1992 07:539
    The oil alarm is an intermitent sounding of the horn , the over heat
    alarm is a constant sounding . They are very easily heard and the
    difference is great. 
    
    I have had the same problem with the oil alarm , check on the fuel line
    if the flow is restricted at all it can cause the problem. My dealer
    advised me that not using resistor plugs can set up the same problem
    with the VRO unit . The VRO and the fuel pump are one unit , if bad it
    is costly to replace . 
1009.4Another cause?RIPPLE::CORBETTKEMon Jul 20 1992 12:4210
    I had that problem when I first got the boat.  I checked with the
    dealer and he said that happens if you use artificial oil.  It seems
    the oil doesn't mix with the gas as readily as it should and the
    sensing unit goes off.  I don't know about that and there was no
    mention of anything like that in the owners manual, but I changed and
    the alarm quit.  Of course, all the other things mentioned could do it
    too.  Boats are fun!!!
    
    
    Ken
1009.5What is it doing?TUNER::CHACEMy favorite season is getting nearer!Mon Jul 20 1992 12:5414
      There are actually three different types of warning horn sounds.
    They cover four different types of problems. They are spelled out in
    the owners manual and are like this:
    
    1 short beep every 20 seconds: High fuel line vacuum. (Probably a
    	partially clogged filter, but could be anything that causes fuel
    	restriction)
    
    50% on and 50% off beeping: Low oil level.
    
    Continuous warning tone: Overheating OR no oil flow.
    
    
    				Kenny
1009.6Thanks for the replies.CSC32::MONROEMon Jul 20 1992 15:5024
    
     Hi Everyone,
    
    
note .1 The impeller has not been changed, I don't do "dry starts" and 
        the water flow out of the motor is a good constant flow and normaly
        not super hot, but you wouldn't want to leave your hand in there
        for a long period of time.
    
     .2 From the sound of the alarm it must be something with the oil, 
        since it is a intermittent alarm with not much of an interval.
    
     .3 I'll check the line from the tank to the bulb, since from there 
        on has been replaced. 
    
     .4 I use "QuickSilver" two stroke oil, so I'll get some OMC oil
        and see how it mixes, who knows it could be as simple as that.
    
     .5 I definitely feel that this is oil relates.
    
    I'll check these things out and report back.
    
                                                 Tom 
    
1009.7A blockage in the cooling system?TESSIE::DREWMon Jul 20 1992 17:4011
    I have a 1987 110 hp Johnson (same engine different cover). The only
    time the warning horn has gone off was due to overheating when I had
    the RPMs too high with the water jacket ears on and one other time when
    a plastic bag in the water covered the water inlet. This was a steady
    sounding alarm and it cleared up when the engine cooled. 
    Looking at the wiring diagram for the engine the only thing that can
    cause the alarm to go off would be overheating (steady horn), low oil
    (intermittant horn) and no oil(steady horn). You said that the problem
    clears up if you shut it off or run it faster. I'd guess that you may
    have a blockage in the cooling system or a poor pump. 
    Jim
1009.8Another POSSIBILITYWRKSYS::ORLOWSKITue Jul 21 1992 08:528
    ...just another possibility. I found out this week that if the
    ALTERNATOR is not charging because of a loose connection to the battery
    or maybe a faulty alternator,,,,,,,,,the horn sounds continuously.
    Maybe when you speed up,,,the charge from the atlernator increases ????
    
    I have a 40HP EVINRUDE INJECTION.......
    
                                          -�teve
1009.9EVINRUDE -WATER IN OILEMASS::PANTANOFri Jun 17 1994 17:5916
    
    
     Question:  What does the alarm sound like when there's water in the 
                bottom of the oil reservoir (from a crack in the cover)?
    
     Answer:  It's very quiet, in fact you can't hear it.
    
      Quess what the results were.
    
      I spoke with the dealer and he said that this is not an uncommon
      occurrence.
    
      Has anyone had this experience.  The motor was an 1985 50HP.
    
       Thanks,   Steve Pantano
    
1009.10It's Monday and I'm confused....KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Mon Jun 20 1994 10:4717

Hmmmmmmmm....


>     Question:  What does the alarm sound like when there's water in the 
>                bottom of the oil reservoir (from a crack in the cover)?

	Cover? As in cover on the oil injection resevoir?

	What alarm would sound for this? It wouldn't have been an "out of
oil" condition, would it?
    
Sorry about your motor...

Rick