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Title: | Powerboats |
Notice: | Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267 |
Moderator: | KWLITY::SUTER |
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Created: | Thu May 12 1988 |
Last Modified: | Wed Jun 04 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1275 |
Total number of notes: | 18109 |
996.0. "smelling oil, and overheating problem..." by SARAH::WHITE () Tue Jun 16 1992 12:54
I just recently bought an 87 FourWinns Liberator. It has a V8 454
Chevy engine (I/O). I've been running it in Long Island Sound for 2
months now, and it pretty much runs fine, except for one problem. Even
a very low speeds (5-10 mph just on my way out of the channel) I can
smell oil burning. I check the oil before I go out every day, and the
temp gauge never runs high. I've pulled skiers just about every time
out, and never had it overheat, but my brother claims it's overheated
on him twice. Basically the alarm went off, so he shut the engine down.
After about 10 minutes it started up fine, and didn't run hot.
Anyone know what may be causing this?? Is it normal to have a
slight oil smell in boat engines (this is my first boat). I've been
told that it may be my impeller (sp?) to the cooling system.
I plan on running the boat in salt water 1/2 the season, and then
moving it to fresh water. Is there anything that can be done to help
prevent the salt water problems?? The engine only has 115 hours on it,
and I don't believe it's fresh water cooled. I just talked to a
FourWinns dealer, and he didn't recommend adding a fresh water cooling
system, since the boat is an 87 and has been in salt water its whole
life (I didn't tell him the hours on the engine).
The the engine and power train are still under warranty from the
dealer I bought it from. I plan on having them go over it for me this
week before the 60day warranty runs out, but I don't trust them a bit.
How can I be sure they actually diagnose the problem, and then fix it?
I wouldn't doubt it if they just masked the problem, so I don't actually
discover it until after my warranty is up. I guess I could take it to
another dealer, and have them check it out for me...
Thanks a bunch
Ray
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996.2 | Check for water flow | SUBSYS::CHESTER | | Tue Jun 16 1992 14:05 | 23 |
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Anouther simple cause is picking up a plastic bag around the IO leg.
The raw water inlet in on the sides of the IO. Quick test for this Is
Overheat
Stop. Back down for 4 or 5 seconds.
If the alarm stops great.
If not shut it down.
The oil smell may come from leaking valve covers. The exaust crossover
will get hot enough to burn oil. Or the leak could be on the outside
of the valve covers. the the exaust ports on the exaust manifold will
be hot enought to burn oil. One or two drops an hour will make a
smell. I know one of my cars drips oil onto the exaust pipe.
If you suspect inter engine problems. Run a compression check. Easest
way to test rings and valves.
Ken C
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996.3 | Check your valve covers | SALEM::NORCROSS_W | | Wed Jun 17 1992 08:20 | 7 |
| I vote for the leaking valve covers. Try to tighten them down a
little. Don't go too tight because you want to keep the cover gasket
from getting crushed. It's the one place on the motor where oli can
come from directly above a very hot surface. A very small amount of
oil (almost to little to notice) can make a heck of a smell when burned
on the exhaust manifold in an enclosed space.
Wayne
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996.4 | Out drive??? | GRANMA::WFIGANIAK | YEAH..GET THE RED ONE | Wed Jun 17 1992 12:24 | 11 |
| I have to agree with all that has been said so far. There are a ton of
place that you can get minor oil leaks from. But don't forget to get
the impeller in the out drive checked out. In fact for an 87 I have it
replaced for peice of mind. I'm assuming here your Liberator is Merc
equiped. The out drive water impeller is rubber fined and can easily
chewed/worn from dirt and sand in the water it pumps. My boat is an 86
and I replaced it in 88 and again the beginning of this season. Wear
was evident but I didn't want to overheated and down in the middle of
the Chesapeak.
My two cents.:^) Good luck
Walt
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996.5 | | WEFXEM::HOWELL | | Mon Jun 22 1992 08:14 | 9 |
| I had the mercrusuer 170 the big 4 thats supposed be an offspring of
that 454 and after 2 years of no. 40 weight oil as rec. by merc.
they told me that I should switch to 30 weight so i did and i started
smelling oil as you do. When investigated i found the 30 weight was
getting by the valve cover gaskets and running down the hot block this
was a very small and hard leak to find but it was enough to cause the
smell.I found it by taking a white rag and giving the engine a wipe
down.With that black block it is very hard to see it.The solution was i
went back to 40 weigth and the problem diappeared.
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996.6 | Have you looked at the Heat Exchangers?? | EPTVAX::TURBAYNE | | Mon Jun 29 1992 14:40 | 10 |
| I had an overheat problem this weekend with my 454.....Turned out to be
a plugged heat exchanger on the right engine manifold. If the boat has
lived in salt water for a couple of seasons or more, the heat
exchangers should be pulled/cleaned. If "crap" builds up inside, then
you do not get water flow mixed with the exhaust and burn up exhaust
rubber diaphrams and cause an over heat. Heat exchanger is easy to pull
off the exhaust manifold on a Mercruiser.....4 bolts....
my $.02 worth
steve
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996.7 | | RTL::LINDQUIST | | Mon Jun 29 1992 20:37 | 11 |
| �� <<< Note 996.6 by EPTVAX::TURBAYNE >>>
�� -< Have you looked at the Heat Exchangers?? >-
�� I had an overheat problem this weekend with my 454.....Turned out to be
�� a plugged heat exchanger on the right engine manifold. If the boat has
Are you thinking of 'exhaust elbow'? A heat exchanger
typically lives between the raw water and the 'fresh' water
in a fresh water cooled engine.
- Lee
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