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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

840.0. "How to add a bilge blower?" by SALEM::NORCROSS_W () Thu May 16 1991 09:29

    My inboard did not have a bilge blower when made.  I would like to 
    install one on one of the rear vent hoses.  What do I need to do to 
    accomplish this?  Do you wire it live to the battery thru a switch or
    to the ignition switch and always have it running when the motor is
    going?
    Thanks, Wayne
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840.11987 versionKAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Thu May 16 1991 10:229
    
    Wayne,
    
    	The Nautique's blower is wired to a switch on the dash. It
    is not affected by the ignition switch, so it can be run in
    accordance with the owner's manual. 5 Minutes before starting the
    engine. Otherwise I only run the blower when idling.
    
    Rick
840.2my .02 worthALLVAX::ONEILLThu May 16 1991 10:2315
    
    	Wayne,
    
    	You would want to put the blower on a separate switch for a couple of
    reasons. The first important one is that before starting the engine
    the gas vapors need to be vented out of the engine compartment.
    A spark could make your day. The blower should be on a couple of
    minutes before starting the engine.
    If the boat is traveling at a good speed (20 mph) or greater, you
    can turn off the blower. There should be enough wind to keep the
    engine compartment vented.
    
    	Good Luck
    
    	Mike
840.3Mount it in the engine compartmentROGER::GAUDETNothing unreal existsThu May 16 1991 14:1213
Wayne,

   I installed an Atwood inline blower in my '65 CC Mustang.  I mounted it under
the rear deck (above the gas tank ... yeah, it *just* fits!), ran the outlet
hose to the vent cone on one side of the rear deck, and hung the inlet behind
the gas tank (again, *just* squeezes in) so it is suspended about 5 inches above
the bilge.  It is wired to operate without the need to turn on the ignition.

   Now, I just might relocate mine to where the manufacturer now puts them in
the newer boats: in the engine compartment.  This setup requires more outlet
hose, but it makes *lots* more sense.

...Roger...  
840.4KAHALA::SUTERWe dun't need no stinkin' skis, (sometimes)Thu May 16 1991 15:057
    
>>   Now, I just might relocate mine to where the manufacturer now puts them in
>>the newer boats: in the engine compartment.  This setup requires more outlet
    
    	Might as well have *something* in the engine compartment!  :-)
    
    	Rick
840.5Thanks.SALEM::NORCROSS_WThu May 16 1991 21:007
    Re: 840.4  Go get him, Roger.  We folks who take pride in bringing
    these old classics back to life have to stick together against the
    rest of them who just think we're too cheap to spend the money on a
    new boat.
    
    To all who offered advise,  thanks.  Sounds logical.
    Wayne 
840.6Ouch! Good one! :-)ROGER::GAUDETNothing unreal existsFri May 17 1991 14:537
RE: .4  Ththththththththththththththththth!  :-)

RE: .5  Yeah Wayne, these guys with the big bucks who buy new boats are quick to
forget how it was when *they* owned fixer-uppers!  :-)  Good luck with the
blower installation.

...Roger...  who_hopes_to_fill_the_void_in_the_engine_compartment_this_weekend
840.7When are blowers really needed?FASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameMon Jun 01 1992 01:0312
    I'm curious on the blower requirement. Boat I just bought reportedly
    did not require one (by law I suppose) because of the design of the
    engine compartment. It does have the normal 1 in, 1 out draft vents
    though.
    
    I guess it's just as easy to lift the motor cover up for venting prior
    to starting but I'm curious as to whether requirements have changed
    since this boat was built ('78). 
    
    Another question is whether rebuilt squirrel cage fans I see advertised
    are useable or whether the built for this purpose fans have specal no
    spark constuction. 
840.8Use only an approved bilge blower!!!SALEM::NORCROSS_WMon Jun 01 1992 09:1126
    I'm not sure of the date that after which all new boats had to have a
    bilge blower but it is a requirement now and well worth the peace of
    mind associated with it.  My '65 Century is exempt from the regulation
    but I added on anyways.  It was fairly simple to do except for the
    limited space I had to choose from in my 15' inboard.  I bought an
    inline 3" blower from Boat/U.S., a short lenghth of their 3" hose,
    black and red 16 gauge wire and an illuminated switch.  I installed the
    blower in place of one of the ventilation hoses coming off of one of
    the rear draft vents.  The bottom end of the hose stops a few inches 
    above the bilge area in case I have water.  Make sure that the blower
    is mounted in a verticle position so that any water coming into the 
    vent opening will flow straight thru.  The 145 CFM 3" Attwood blower I
    used cost $20.  The larger 225 CFM 4" costs $26.  Hose was $.79/foot
    for 3" and $.89/foot for 4".  They also sell a more expensive Jabsco 
    blower but the Attwood fit right in place of my existing ventilation
    hose.  Installation took 3 hours but I had a pretty small area next to
    the rear mounted gas tank which was a b____ to work in.  Normal time
    would have been about an hour.  Follow the directions that come with
    the blower exactly.
    
    Note: these blowers are all Coast Guard approved.  The whole idea of
    why one would need to have a bilge blower would negate the logic behind
    using some non-ignition protected, non-coast guard approved squirrel
    cage fan that is meant to just move air, not an air/gas fume combo.
    
    Wayne