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    Most likely there were a Sears spin off using his name.
    
    
    

    I see what you're saying. Thanks for the info. Sears brand name
    now is Gamefisher. Hope you can put your motor back together again!
    Jim

    Moved by moderator.  Sorry to burst your bubble, but Sears Gamefishers
    are made by Eska, which is not that big or reputable.
    
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TRCOA::KUNAUS                                        15 lines  22-MAY-1992 16:13
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    Does anybody know or remember which of the BIG outboard manufacturers
    made the 
    
    GAME FISHER series of small outboards.
    
    I have an opportunity to buy one used 9.9HP Game fisher outboard and I
    have this feeling that this outboard was made by a reputable
    manufacturer like Johnson/evinrod or Merc.
    
    Does anyone have any experiences with this make of outboard or I am
    buying a problem when it comes to parts availability.
    
    Thanks
    
    Martin

    Believe that it was a company named ESKA.

    I picked up an old Ted Williams 3hp that actually runs very well. Does
    anyone have a owners manual for this outboard that I could copy? I'm 
    running a chainsaw oil/gas mix 16:1, what is the proper ratio for this
    type of aircooled outboard? (I believe this might be a bit too heavy on
    the oil).
    
    
    Ross

    Hey Ross, 
    
    Is that owners manual worth more with Ted's autograph on it??  ;-) ;-)
    
    Carl

    If I remember correctly, Ted was the main sports huckster for Sears
    back in the 60's. (At least I have his autugraph on the outboard. 8~)
    
    
    Ross

    Ted Williams!  I would belive he is knowledgeable about baseball.  In
    fact I could even go for a Ted Williams autographed baseball.  But a
    Ted Williams outboard?  Hmmm..  I wonder how much experience he has
    had with the repair/maintenance, and determining the reliability of
    outboards?  Guess I wouldn't buy a used car from him.
    
    Jeff
    

    Ted Williams was/is a sportsman interested in many sporty activities.
    As to his autographed outboard, I'm unsure of it's manufacturer, but
    it does run well (and is quite light being aircooled).
    
    Ross

    Next after baseball, fishing was (one of?) Ted's great love.
    So maybe he does knowsomething about motors.
    
    Bill
    
    If it hasn't already been said, I think his motors were sold by Sears.
    

    See note 827.4 and .5
    Wayne

    Wayne, Sears changes vendors often. The Game Fishers may be Eska?, but
    who knows about a mid- 60's motor.
    
    Ross
    

    Pretty good deal.  Know something about outboards get you name on it
    and make lots of money.  I know something about outboards.  Anybody
    interested in slapping my name on an outboard case and making lots
    of money?  i.e. The "Jeff Gilman" super twin!
    
    Joke.
    
    Smile.
    
    Jeff

    Yes, but can you hit???
    
    Carl

    Sear's has gotten their outboards from many sources, and sold
    them under several names.
    
    Dating back to the 'teens, they were called "MotorGo" and were 
    similar to the other exposed flywheel single and opposed twin
    "rowboat" motors of the era.  In the 30's and 40's, the name was 
    "Water Witch".  The early Water Witches were made by Kissel, the 
    car company.  Briefly the 'Witches were made by Johnson also, a 
    friend of mine has one of these, I think a 1929.  A lot of Water
    Witches were actually beautiful motors and had a "Twin Torpedo"
    polished aluminum gas tank.  Advertising showed a giant twin
    fuselage bomber, with a resemblance to the gas tank.  They also
    had one with twin Torpedos and a wraparound rear section, which
    is referred to as a "toilet seat" by collectors, because it looks 
    just like one.  8^)
    
    In the 1950's, Sears motors became Elgins, and were made by 
    West Bend (West Bend later bacame Chrysler).  A lot of the 
    50's Elgins actually ran pretty well.  I have a nice 1954 Elgin
    6 hp that runs great.
    
    Sometime in the 60's, Sears motors became "Ted Williams". I don't
    know much about them, but suspect they were all made by Eska, since
    they don't resemble anything from any of the more reputable mfg'ers.
    In the 80's, they became Gamefishers.  Some of them are still made 
    by Eska, but I was told recently that the larger ones, the 15hp for 
    example, are made by Force.  And of course, Force is owned by Mercury 
    Marine, and are built in Mercury plants now (new Forces say "by Mercury 
    Marine" right below "Force").  So it could be that the new/larger 
    Gamefishers aren't quite the tin can they were from the 60's to the
    1980's.  
    
    Rick

    No, not as well as Ted.   Guess we will have to count me out (so to
    speak) regarding my name on outboards.  Oh well.
    
    

  I have an old Ted Williams 7 1/2 H.P. engine. It ran like a top
  for a couple of seasons but then...

  ... when started and put into gear the engine would propel the boat
  for a few seconds then seem to slip out of gear...racing so much I
  thought the rivets would pop out of my boat. This in gear/out of gear
  happens every few seconds and renders the motor useless.

  Keeping in mind that I am not Mr. Goodwrench...
 
  ...Any theories to what the problem is...
  ...how to repair...
  ...who if anyone in Southern N.H. would repair it...
  ...is it worth repairing?

  Thanks...chet 

will somebody give this person Ricks number.

JIm

    
    Call Rick Wilson at 603-673-3840
    

    
    	That's what he was already told in the Bass notes!
    
    	He's a slow learner....
    
    					B.C.

>>>                -< How many times have you heard this Gerb??? >-
>>>    	That's what he was already told in the Bass notes!
>>>    	He's a slow learner..
>>>     B.C.

      Boats notes # 827.20 Says call Rick Wilson
      time posted 11:30

      Bass note # 210.7 says Rick Wilson
      time posted 11:31

      Re: how many time have I heard this the answer is 
          twice in one minute!

      Hey B.C. sorry for being so slow... I'll try not
      to be such a bother again :-(

      chet

I have a twin to this engine and brought it over to Rick. He told me 
that he work on Johnson and didn't have any manuals or parts for this type
of engine.

My problem sounds similar. I took my engine apart and the lower engine
is shot. 

If you find a place to get parts, please let me know.

			Thanks
			 Jim

    RE: .23
    	Sears Service Center Otis St. Northboro
    						B.C.

    You might also try Electra Marine in NY.  516-599-3003.  They might
    have something
    

    My Dad bought a Ted Williams 7 1/2 HP from Sears quite a number of
    years ago.  The brute never ran right!  You could always tell when Pop
    was out fishing, because you could hear him coming/going down the lake
    with a .5 to 1 minute of smooth motor noise, and then a miss; .5 to 1
    minute of smooth motor noise, and then a miss.  He took it back to
    Sears at least three times for servicing, trying to get rid of the
    miss.  On the fourth trip he placed it rather firmly on the counter and
    said: "I want to trade this piece of junk in on a new 6 HP Evinrude
    over there!"  Although it had been almost two years since he bought it,
    they gave him exactly what he paid for it on a trade in.  He never
    regreted buying the Evinrude.  Moral: stay away from Ted Williams
    motors if you can help it.
    
    Rick of the North