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Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

816.0. "Diver Down - Use caution, please..." by KAHALA::SUTER (We dun't need no stinkin' skis!) Fri Apr 05 1991 10:07

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Note 779.77            Official 1991 Water Ski Season Note              77 of 77
GEMVAX::HICKSCOURANT                                 32 lines   4-APR-1991 23:28
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    re: .72
    
    PLEASE!
    
    If you ski on the Concord River, or if you know anybody who does,
    please keep in mind and tell others to keep in mind that starting this
    season, there will be divers in the Concord.
    
    A dive flag is a red square with a white band crossing the square
    diagonally.
    
    If you see it, regardless of whether you are driving the boat or
    skiing, do whatever you can to get as far away from the flag as
    possible. The river is only 10 feet deep.
    
    The divers will be there for environmental surveys. Taking samples,
    monitoring aquatic flora and fauna. 
    
    I have been telling divers NOT to submerge in the Concord without a
    canoe or other boat as surface support (the surface person's role is to
    scream, wave, whatever to let a powerboat driver know to slow down and
    keep a distance), but there is no telling how many divers will listen
    to that advice. The season is just starting, and a lot of divers have
    started to talk about diving the Concord.
    
    I, for one, will be spending two or three evenings each week under the
    surface of the Concord in the Billerica area. I don't want to die
    because a foolish boat driver doesn't know the rules of the waterways.
    
    You DO all know what a dive flag looks like and means, right?
    
    John H-C
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816.1Small marker?KAHALA::SUTERWe dun&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; skis!Fri Apr 05 1991 12:5621
    
    re: .0
    
    >I have been telling divers NOT to submerge in the Concord without a
    >canoe or other boat as surface support (the surface person's role is to
    >scream, wave, whatever to let a powerboat driver know to slow down and
    >keep a distance), but there is no telling how many divers will listen
    >to that advice. The season is just starting, and a lot of divers have
    >started to talk about diving the Concord.
    
    	Does this mean that divers might be found on the river with
    *only* a dive flag/buoy? Am I incorrect in assumming that this is
    a ball about 8-12 inches across with a 12 inch dive flag?
    
    	Even if a boater isn't considered one of the yahoos, couldn't
    it be quite difficult to see a marker of this size? For instance,
    if a boat was operated directly into the sun? I don't think I'd
    want to pop up from under water with only such a marking. I'd
    insist on a boat above....
    
    Rick
816.2Good to fish, not diveKITS::ZEREGAFri Apr 05 1991 15:017
    
      I fish the concord river nightly, off my bass boat. Where
      the HECK is there any water deep enough to DIVE!!!!!!!!!
      I think you mean WADE. Why not try walden pond.
    
                          Another prop for good old Concord river.
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816.3YOU can try Walden. Please do.GEMVAX::HICKSCOURANTFri Apr 05 1991 16:0432
    re: .2
    
    Can't dive Walden Pond even if we wanted to: it's against the law.
    
    If all I want to do is dive, I go to Cape Ann or one of the lakes.
    
    >> Where the HECK is there any water deep enough to DIVE!!!!!!!
    
    River diving is not for the aquatic tourist or the faint of body and
    heart. But it IS what you have to do if you are capable of it and you
    love the river. (Was that YOUR outboard I found in the middle of the
    Great Meadows stretch a couple weeks ago?)
    
    What you see on the surface is a mere reflection of the sky. What's
    underneath is what the river is all about. THAT is why somebody dives
    in a river.
    
    *I* know what the Concord River looks like. Do you? 
    
    Want to help save it?
    
    It's been in restoration for a long time now, but the job isn't even
    half done yet. THAT'S why we dive in the Concord River.
    
    re: .1
    
    Any boat operator who moves into the sun at more than headway speed on
    a river is asking for trouble, even if there weren't divers around.
    You're essentially right about the dimensions of the dive flag. Please
    look out for it. An accident will kill the diver and ruin your life. If
    a dive flag was displayed and you hit a diver, the fine line between
    second degree murder and manslaughter is tough one to discern.
816.5Concord River Boaters!GEMVAX::HICKSCOURANTFri Aug 02 1991 09:5928
    It just occurred to me this morning to enter this, but so far
    everything has been OK, and there hasn't been a need for this note yet.
    
    The Divers' Environmental Survey has marked off about 100 yards of the
    Concord River around the Old Middlesex Turnpike Bridge abutments in
    Billerica. The markers are two 150-foot segments (one up- and the other
    downstream of the area in question) of 0.25-inch yellow polypropylene
    rope. This floating rope is anchored to the bottom with rocks, (and
    should stay high enough off the bottom so divers have no trouble seeing
    it).
    
    However, there is always the possibility that for some reason one or
    both of them *could* get dislodged.
    
    This could be nuisance to any boater on the river, among other things.
    
    So, I ask all of you who put your boat in the Concord River and travel
    downstream of the Rte. 3 bridge:
    
    If you see a segment of yellow rope floating in the river, please send
    me mail and tell me where you saw it. I will go retrieve it by the end
    of the day.
    
    GEMVAX::HICKSCOURANT is my e-mail address. 
    
    Thank you.
    
    John H-C
816.6Anybody still have a boat in the water?GEMVAX::JOHNHCMon Oct 21 1991 13:4318
    Does anybody still have a boat in Boston Harbor?
    
    If you do, might you be interested in helping the Divers' Environmental
    Survey and the Save The Harbor/Save The Bay Foundation (the folks who
    figured out that the EPA had the Foul Zone coordinates wrong) as they
    begin the Middle Islands Monitoring Project?
    
    We're looking for somebody willing to haul four divers out to the 
    Georges Island area so they can spend half an hour underwater at each
    of four sites. We will gladly pay your fuel costs.
    
    All of the dive charters have pulled their boats out of the water, so
    we're scrambling trying to find transportation for this weekend's
    dives. We would be done by noon. Either Saturday or Sunday.
    
    Thanks.
    
    John H-C