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Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

644.0. "Mooring/Storage Covers" by SALEM::GINGRAS () Mon Apr 09 1990 16:41

    I am in the process of looking for a mooring/storage cover for the
    following boat.  16.25 ft. length, 80 in. beam, powered by an outboard.
    Ther is also a "fixed" boarding ladder next to the engine,  that is
    not included in the overall length.  This boat is a deep V hull
    with a walk through windshied. 
    
    I have looked in various places, (catalogs, dealers, etc) and would
    appreciate some advice from the experts.  What I am interested in
    primarily is the following:
    
    *  Which type of material(s) are the best?
    		Least subject to mildew and rot
    		Minimally affected by UV lighting
    		Longest lasting
    
    *  Would I be better buying a "Custom" cover or an "over the counter"
       type of cover, giventhe configuration of my boat?
                                              
    *  Where can I obtain the best price for the cover?
    
    I would appreciate any inputs, positive and negative.  This boat
    is mostly trailered and is stored at my home in Derry, N.H.
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644.1Find Someone With a B.J.'s CardUSCTR2::HWYDOMWed Apr 11 1990 16:186
    Saw some boat covers in B. J.'s Wholesale Warehouse in Westboro this past 
    week.  They were boxed, with a sample of the fabric on the outside of the 
    box.  Claimed resistance to sunlight, weather, etc.  The covers were
    available in various sizes (16-18', 19-20').  If I recall correctly,
    the cost for the 19-20' size was in the mid $70 range.  You might want
    to give them a look.
644.2Mooring, storing AND trailering ?ULTRA::BURGESSMad man across the waterThu Apr 12 1990 09:5324
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>    I would appreciate any inputs, positive and negative.  This boat
>    is mostly trailered and is stored at my home in Derry, N.H.

	Overton's have covers that they specifically recommend for  
"over the road",  i.e. for use on the boat while trailering.  Some 
catalogues specifically recommend AGAINST trailering with their
mooring covers, though you may have to search the fine print to find 
it.  I tend to pack up all my vacation gear into the boat and haul it
~200 miles each way every summer, so a cover I can use on the road is
important to me.

	For outside storage there is usually the problem of puddleing,
a heavy rain storm can easily dump enough water into the cover to pull
it off the gunnels and dump it into the boat - this is probably worse 
with out-boards than I/Os or inboards, due to the shape of things.  
I've solved it with an 8ft x 4ft sheet of waterproofed masonite, which 
I bow over a length of 3 inch plastic sewer pipe - this all fits UNDER 
the mooring/storage/towing/over_the_road cover.

	Reg

644.3Where to get a custom coverKAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri Jul 10 1992 13:4818
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      I'm looking for a custom trailable boat cover and Overton's 
    can not help. Does anyone out there know of any companies that
    makes custom covers or any recommendations ?
    
      I have a Larson Senza 165, this is a low profile ski boat with 
    a ski pole permanently mounted.
    
      tom
644.4Try Mike's in NashuaKAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri Jul 10 1992 13:4914
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    Mike's Custom Upholstery in Nashua, NH.   Tel# in this file under
    upholstery note.  They quoted $350 to me to do a mooring/trailering
    cover for my ski boat.
    Wayne
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    Most auto upholstery/top shops do custom covers for boats. The one in
    Maynard (forgot the name ) is one I have heard good things about- good
    work, reasonble prices. 
    
     Get a fabric that "breathes"- the viny covers can be inexpensive , but 
    condensation& Mildew are common with an all vinyl cover.
    
    Dick
    
644.6What if....KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri Jul 10 1992 13:5019
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      What if I were to buy a trailable cover and then have a shop
    custom fit it to my boat, has anyone had any sucess with something
    like that. I could remove the skii pylon so that its location could
    be mark for a added piece of the cover and then just mark and add
    re-enforcment to the wear areas. uhmmmm 
    
     tom
    
644.7Boat Cover WantedISLNDS::WALSHTue Aug 03 1993 13:337
    Wanted:   Boat cover for a 16' Glastron trihull with an I/O and walk
              thru windshield.   Would like to find a used one that is in  
              good condition.   I live in the Maynard, Mass area.  
    
    Please reply to:   ISLNDS::WALSH    DTN 229-7040     Thanks.   
                        (preferred)
     
644.8- CANVAS QUESTION - CANVAS QUESTION CANVAS QUESTIONAIMHI::CPOTTERFri Mar 18 1994 11:4535
I'm looking for some advice about canvas.  I checked the keywords and couldn't 
find anything related, but if there's a topic that addresses this, please
point me to it.  Here's the problem:  I've got a 19' bowrider with the standard
canopy type canvas from the manufacturer - the kind with clear side windows,
snaps all around, etc.  Putting it up and down every weekend is taking it's 
toll on the aluminum framework and fittings, as well as the clear plastic 
windows - side and rear - that I know I should roll up but usually fold them 
anyway.  Plus, it's more time consuming than I like to put on and take off.
Worst of all, it's black and absords the heat. So I'm looking for a better way.

One of my neighbors has the type of canvas that uses the same snaps that
are already installed, but no canopy, windows, etc. - like a mooring cover but
it doesn't use a drawstring and doesn't go all the way over the rubrail.  Not 
sure what to call it, but for now I'll call it a "docking" cover.  I was sold 
on this idea until I got a few quotes of around $500.  Then some friends I 
talked to seemed pretty adamant that a mooring cover would be better (and 
cheaper).  So now I'm confused.

The way I see it the pros and cons are as follows:

	Mooring cover:  less expensive; can be used when trailering; 
	more difficult to put on (I assume that you have to tighten the draw-
	string either from the front or back, i.e. leaning way out from the
	dock could be a problem).

	"Docking" cover: more expensive; might not be useful when trailering;
	easier to install; less wear and tear on the snaps.


I'd appreciate hearing other pros/cons on either of these types of covers, as
well as recommendations about where to get them in So. NH/ Lake Winni region.


Chris                                          
644.9oopsAIMHI::CPOTTERFri Mar 18 1994 11:485
    Sorry, I must have got carried away when I entered the title of the note.
Must be that I'm getting real anxious for ice out...
    
    
    Chris
644.10I only yelled at the weather channel for a minute this AM!KAHALA::SUTERNever too Hot!Fri Mar 18 1994 13:2425
    
    Chris,
    
    	Judging by the replies to this note and other prices that I've
    heard around the docks and boat ramps, 500 bucks sounds about right.
    Maybe just a tad on the high side.
    
    	Mail order covers like the one I bought for the Nautique recently
    are considerably cheaper. For instance, Overton's lists their Greystone
    Over-the-road cover at 168.95 for a 19'6" I/O and their Sundura Blue
    cover for 188.95. (BTW: I bought the Sundura and really like it, even
    though I'd like it to breath a little more than it does).
    
    	As for the "tying at the bow or transom" problem. I've experienced
    this once in a while, but I'm usually wet already and don't mind
    getting into the water. Although, I don't really see any reason why
    the cover can't be modified to have the drawstring opening towards the
    dock... The only downside I can see to all of this is that if the cover
    comes down over the rubrails it's going to rub on the dock all night
    long.
    
    	Rick
    
    Fever? Boating Fever? Did someone say BOATING FEVER!!!!
    
644.11Few covers will trailer wellSALEM::JGREENLiving beyond my emotional meansFri Mar 18 1994 13:4910
    Very few covers are actually meant to be on during towing. Unless it is
    snapped on and is a taut installation  I would be reluctant to tow with
    a drawstring cover.A loose cover will beat your gel coat to a dull finish.
    
    I enjoyed having a mooring cover to go over the canvas top. The canvas
    was quick and readily accessable for short term use. If I stuck the
    boat away for a week or two then the mooring cover went on over the
    canvas. I like having both.
    
    ~jeff
644.12I had a bowrider onceRENEWL::URBANTue Mar 22 1994 15:1018
and it came with a 'docking' cover and bow section cover made of white vinal.
The first spring I tried to put it on it was about 3/4 of an inch short due to
cold shrinkage and never got easy to put on until the weather warmed up.

I replaced it with the nylon fabric type of cover and if i remember right it 
cost about $250/$275 to cover a 18' boat cockpit and $120 for the bow 
cover.  I had the work done here in Nashua by the guy that did the 
canvas work for JC Boats when they had thier plant here. You can bring him 
the boat or, since I lived nearby, he came to me.  He did a real nice job.
IT was tight, trailerable and watertight.

I have a 22' cuddy now with both the 'regular' canvas, roof, side and back 
curtains as well as a docking cover.  About the only time I use the roof is
when I'm staying on the boat or it's raining...the rest of the time I use the
docking cover as it's easier and alot less wear on the more expensive roof and
curtains.


644.132 in 2yrs :-(CAPL::LANDRY_DWarbirds 1939-1945Thu Mar 24 1994 12:0829
	Yesterday's clear day and 60's was too good to pass up.
	Took 1/2 vacation day and on way home stopped at Bliss Marine in Woburn.
	They had sale going on due to renovation.  In their catalog they had
	boat covers going for $202.  I have the other catalog's and the 19'
	covers ranged from around $130 to $300.  My 1 1/2yr old cover I got
	with the FishTeaser cost me $282 and is ripped to shreads from towing
	and winter damage although I had a tarp on top of it this winter.

	Bliss had a good supply in stock all marked at $202 but the only one
	for a 19' offshore center console boat had no sticker.  I took it anyway
	and when they rang up the final price it was $154.55 :-)  Nice surprize.

	Same material as my last one but extremely good elastic draw string
	around it which keeps it pretty sercure to the boat.  I did use bungee
	cords to all the straps and that seems to work better then my varying
	sizes of rope ;-)  Two things it didn't have:  Thick plastic protectors
	which went over the bow rail point, both aft transom corners and over
	the center console windscreen/rails etc.  I decided to cut sections off
	my old one and put those on first.  I now have my center console covered
	completely with the old cover.  I will raise it over the steering wheel
	for long term storage or till it dries out to prevent moisture/rot etc.
	It also didn't have holes in the the Forward & Aft areas to install
	poles to keep it propped up.  What it did have that my other didn't have
	was an engine cover already attached.  It's for single engine outboards
	and my 70hp swims in it so if I went to the max of 140hp for my boat 
	it would fit fine.  I trailer it 80-120 miles one way everytime I go :-(

	-< Tuna Tail >-
	
644.14Water resistance for mooring coverEMMFG::THOMSMon Jul 29 1996 15:134
    My mooring cover, cloth/canvas, has lost whatever water-resistant
    ability it once had. What is used to make it water resistant?
    
    Ross
644.15Thompson's?CPEEDY::PRINDLETue Jul 30 1996 14:245
Never tried it but I think you can spray it with Thompson's water seal.

Wayne


644.16Buy fabric waterproofing sprayUNIFIX::FRENCHBill French 381-1859Tue Jul 30 1996 17:165
    Go to a fabric store and buy the spray that is made for waterproofing
    fabric.
    
    Bill (who'se wife runs a reupholstery / drapery small business)
    
644.17Another vote for ThompsonsSMURF::HURSTWed Jul 31 1996 09:4510
    Thompsons works well on canvas. I applied it to a canvas
    tent with a paint brush over 5 years ago and it's still
    working! The tent was MUCH heavier even after it dried. 
    It does leave an odor behind which takes a lot of air drying
    to get rid of.
    
    A canvas shop will sell you a similar product in gallon cans
    which supposedly doesn't smell as bad but costs 2x what Thompsons
    costs. Smell probably isn't as much of a problem for a boat
    cover.
644.18Not Thompsons!FOR200::JOHNSWed Jul 31 1996 11:0814
    ditto .16
    
    I recently had a new full cover made. The shop gave me a spray bottle
    of Aqua-Tite to use on an old Half cover I had.  They said DO NOT use
    Thompson's!!!   It won't harm the fabric, It will waterproof it BUT It
    stops it from 'breathing' completely.  This leads to mildew and mold in
    the boat.   They also said Thompsons will make it stiff and heavy.
    
    The Aqua-Tite works great. Sheds water like a ducks back!
    You may have to go to a canvas shop to get it, it is not sold in most
    stores.
    
    Garrison.