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Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

595.0. "jell-cell batteries" by KYOA::HELMKE () Mon Jan 22 1990 15:15

    	I'am going to be replacing my batteries this spring and have been
    looking into the Prevailer jell-cell bateries. They cost about twice
    as much as a normal battery but are sussposed to hold a charge longer
    then a normal battery of the same size. The dealer says they work like
    a deep cycle and that they are designed to go through a full charge
    discharge cycle but that they also have enough cranking amps to start
    any engine. They also have some other advantages like being compleatly
    sealed (at the display they show one working underwater), they don't
    freeze and they are supposed to hold there charge through long periods
    of storage.
    	Does anybody have any experience using these batteries. I guess
    I'am trying to learn weather there worth the extra bucks.
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595.1Save your moneySUBSYS::CHESTERMon Jan 22 1990 17:349
    Lead acid cell don't freeze either if they are charged.  Check into the 
    recharge current rating and what happens if you overcharge them.
    The ones I have seem outgas and blow out a small plug in each cell.
    Then they either don't work or are not leakproof.   Seems a lot
    of money to have the battery work under water.  They maybe worth the 
    money if you are at a mooring without shorepower but if you
    are mostly at the dock buy a good deep cycle battery put the 
    money into a good charger (converter).
    
595.2conventional is probably enoughTHRUST::BERENSAlan BerensMon Jan 22 1990 17:5719
re .0:

Was the water distilled or sea water? Sea water is quite conductive -- I 
don't think that you could use a battery submerged in sea water unless 
the electrical connections were totally waterproof. 

The biggest advantage of the gel-type batteries is that they will 
withstand complete discharge without damage (any conventional lead-acid 
battery will be destroyed by complete discharging more than a few 
times) and won't spill acid if turned on their side. This last is very 
important for offshore cruising sailboats which are occasionally knocked 
down (rolled 90 or more degrees). Not too important for a powerboat. 

As -.1 mentions, gel-type batteries do have a different charging 
characteristic that must be considered. If you are really intersted, 
contact Ample Power or Cruising Equipment (both in Seattle) who sell 
sophisticated 12v yacht power systems. Be prepared to spend many 
dollars. Conventional deep-cycle batteries are probably adequate unless 
you have some really special requirements.
595.3Jump Start Spin Around!PACKER::GIBSONDTN225-5193Tue Jan 23 1990 09:3817
    A couple of months ago the Boating Product News, had a write up about
    the Prevailer Batteries. It seems that they are the best thing on the
    market today. According to the test specs they will outlast
    conventional lead acid types by quite a bit if you have heavy charge
    discharge cycles. The prices are not all that bad when you compare them
    to equitable batteries like a Surrette. I will most likly by a couple
    myself when my Surrette's die. But they have been known to last 15 years
    so it may be a while. 
    
    I would think they would be a prudent investment for someone who runs a
    lot of electric gear on their boat.
    
    I wonder when the patent rights expire and other companies start to
    produce them? That will drive the prices down.
    
                                            Walt
    
595.4Surrette BatteriesSALEM::GILMANFri Sep 20 1991 13:1611
    I have heard that Surrette batteries are THE marine deep cycle battery
    to buy.  Does anybody have any experience with this brand of battery?
    
    I have owned a few over the years and have used them in both my camper
    and boat with excellent results from them.  If you want to buy this 
    brand battery at factory prices rather than the inflated marine dealer
    prices you can contact and buy the batteries from the factory as I did
    for about half the retail price.  The factory is in Tilton, N.H. and
    the phone number can be found through information.
    
    Jeff