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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

548.0. "Opinions on '83 26' Sea Ray for 19,500" by LEDS::MOVALLI () Fri Oct 27 1989 01:42

    
    Recently I looked at an '83 26' Sea Ray and welcome
    any opinions on whether this is a "good" boat/buy.
    
    The boat is going for 19,500.  It has an 8' beam
    which seemed very narrow.  People have told me that
    this boat has a tendancy to rock in the ocean and 
    become unstable.  BTW, the ocean is where I will be
    using it. 
    
    Besides that one weakness, there are many plusses.
    It has low hours (269), appears to be well - maintained
    as I will be getting a surveyor to verify and includes
    depth finder, radio telephone, loran, 260 MerCruiser,
    CG package, Head, sleeps 6, swim platform, stove,
    and 110 shore power.  
    
    Being a first-time boat buyer, I am curious as to 
    what the "blue book" value is on this boat.  I have
    heard and read good things about Sea Rays.  Does anyone
    have a clue on what the value of a boat like this would be?
    BTW, the boat was always used in the ocean and the owner
    has already bought his new boat.... This could prove 
    interesting during the negatiation stages...
    
    Thanks for any help.
    MM
    
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548.1I think you could do much better!WOODRO::CERIA2*(454+4bbl)=$0Fri Oct 27 1989 11:178
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    19.5K seems a little steep. This time of year I think you should
    look around for some better deal. There are some deals out there,just
    be patient and wait for what you want. You have all winter to shop.
    
    
                           jeff
548.2I think I am glad I started smallerSMVDV1::JGUNNERSONJLGFri Oct 27 1989 13:3026
    Many, many boats built up until only a few years ago stuck with the 8
    foot width for trailering purposes as it was the maximum allowed
    without requiring "WIDE LOAD" towing practices. Even 26 footers. Any
    boat will rock when the seas approach from the side, and to someone who
    is used to a 10 or 12 foot beam the 8 foot will seem less stable. The
    question is can you afford a larger boat with a wider beam?  That said,
    I and many others, have boats with an 8 foot beam, that have served us
    well. (Albeit in my case for only one season - though the seas at the
    break in Chatham have given me enough experience to say that the 8 foot
    beam on my 22' Sea Ray is sufficient.)
    
    There is nothing stopping you from trying to get this boat at a better
    price - even if you think that it is fair. A surveyor will tell you
    what the boat is worth, so don't agree on a final price until the
    survey is complete. 
    
    I'd agree in part with -.1, that you can probably do better on the
    price, but *if* the boat is very good condition that price doesn't seem
    to be out of line as a starting point as he says. I don't think. (Based
    on my looking at similiar boats lately) Certainly prices in general
    tend to be more flexible this time of year. I would buy some Class-Ad
    magazines that carry boats and see what other's are selling for. I
    wouldn't expect that you would have to pay the retail price to a
    private party either. Make sure you have the model of the boat. 
    
    John_who_almost_bought_a_26_foot_Sea_Ray
548.3my .02 worthMPGS::TURBAYNEThu Nov 02 1989 13:1528
    MM, here's my $.02 worth.......
    
    Last March I bought an 85 Searay Weekender (23 ft), 130 hrs,
    immaculate, full canvass with camper back, radios, 260 HP, kept in
    fresh water, with trailer......Book value, average shape & equipment
    minus trailer ranged from $18.5K up to $20.5K (March 89).. I paid
    slightly more than the upper book value figure, but I got a low hour
    boat, trailer and a boat in vertually new condition. As to value on
    Searays; they hold their value. You will spend a little more, but when
    you turn around to sell it down the road, you'll get more back.
     
    As to the beam issue, I keep my boat in salt water. 8 ft beam with a
    23ft length is fine. I was thinking of upgrading to the Searay 268
    sundancer (26 ft with 8 ft beam). I've changed my mind. If you are
    looking at a Sundancer, this has the aft cabin. By nature, boats with
    aft cabins sit higher off the water so to speak as the steering area
    must be raised to accomidate the aft cabin below. When I saw how much
    the boat rocked (almost like it is a little more top heavy) with only
    an 8 ft beam, I decided that this would not be my next step. By the
    way, this is not just a Searay issue, but all the manufacturers in the 
    26 ft range with aft cabins fall into this category. My opinion is that
    a Searay may be better than other manufacturers in this issue and other
    areas.....Bottom line, I'll stick with SeaRay, but instead of the 268
    Sundancer with 8 ft beam (some were made with an 8'6" beam), I'll
    upgrade to the 27 ft Sundance with a 10'+ beam. This costs a lot more
    and is no longer trialerable, but a real stable boat.....
    
    Steve "Next Step" Westport MA.....
548.4Love them Ray'sMAMTS3::WFIGANIAKYEAH..GET THE RED ONEFri Nov 03 1989 08:5013
    RE.3 I have an 1986 268 Sundancer. 268 is for 26'8". The beam is
    8' as you stated. I keep my boat in fresh water but run mostly on
    thr Cheseapeak Bay. The bay can blow up sometimes with wave 3'to
    4'. Sure it rocks and rolls but it's not all that uncomfortable.
    BTW the last 27' Sundancer was made in 1987. They kept the Sundancer
    hull but made it the 270 Amberjack fishing boat. I don't know what
    23' footers are going for, I'll see if there are any at the marina.
    It's a dealer so our marina is 90% Searay.
    They do have a 1986 like mine that they have tagged at 27,500.
    As far as the quality of the boat, see the note on the one that
    was pulled of the rocks ! 
    Good shopping.
    Walt