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525.1 | Trim & tilt sender is stuck | ROBOAT::HEBERT | Captain Bligh | Tue Oct 03 1989 09:20 | 16 |
| I hope your boat is on the trailer.
Tilt your engine all the way up. look on the aft side of the transom clamp,
on the left hand side, inside. You should see a black plastic block with a
movable arm that pivots. That arm follows the moving part of the outboard,
and while it's moving it is also moving a variable resistor. This is how your
trim gauge works. That arm sometimes gets stuck - weeds, salt, general guck.
Spray the heck out of it with WD-40 or CRC-66, and "work" the movable arm
until it frees up. This works for me.
+----------+ <-Transom clamp, looking from astern of
|X | your boat toward the outside of the
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X-marks the spot where the trim & tilt "sender" is.
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525.2 | Some times you've just got to say what the heck. | CSC32::MONROE | | Tue Oct 03 1989 12:28 | 5 |
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I'll give it a shot and let you know.....
Thanks....
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525.3 | still not working. | CSC32::MONROE | | Thu Oct 19 1989 11:40 | 10 |
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Well... That's not it...Does anyone know how to test the
sending unit back by the motor ?
Thanks
Tom
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525.4 | try this | SICVAX::SCHEIBEL | U can Teach A new dog UL TRIX | Fri Oct 20 1989 13:17 | 14 |
| First check for + 12 volts on The I trminal on the back of the guage
when the key is on . Next check if you have a ground on the ground
terminal on the back of the guage. Next with the key on connect a
jumper from the s terminal on the back of the guage to ground. if you
get a fuul scale deflecton on the guage , then the probel is either in
the sender or the wiring to it. If the guage does not move either iit
is bad or its wiring or supply voltage is not there. To test sender
wiring ground both sender wires at the sender or connection block guage
should deflect if it does not senderwiring is bad. To check sender
disconnect both leads and put an ohm meter across it set to low scale
if meter does not vary while moving sender arm sender is probably bad.
BIll
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525.5 | Mercruiser Trim Gauge Problem | GOLF::WILSON | Marine Buyologist | Thu Oct 18 1990 17:11 | 19 |
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The last time I had my boat out the trim gage stopped working. I
have found that the dual wires going to the sensors on the lower
unit are both pinched off. The boat is a 190 Sea Ray with a 260 hp
Mercruiser. There is plenty of slack on wire on the inside the
transom so I'm wondering if it is possible to pull the wires through
so I can re-connect them. Has any body else had this problem and if
so what did you do to stop it from happening again.
Thanks for any info up-front
Craig
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525.6 | | TOOK::SWIST | Jim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102 | Mon Jun 15 1992 11:17 | 11 |
| My trim gauge was fine last year, but has somehow gone partially South
over the Winter. (115 Johnson, 1990, similar motor to the base note).
It follows the motor down slowly as it should, but when you get to the
part of the travel where the motor moves very slowly (the range you
normally adjust while underway), the gauge dives to the bottom.
Judging from the earlier replies I'd say it was a sending unit problem,
but what problem would cause it to behave non-linearly with the engine
travel? Doesn't seem like crud would explain it, it's very repeatable
(and very smooth, not like the circuit goes open suddenly).
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525.7 | Sure sounds like an open sending unit | UNIFIX::FRENCH | Bill French 381-1859 | Mon Jun 15 1992 13:17 | 17 |
| Jim,
One good reply deserves another (Sailing re loran)
> What problem would cause it it behave non-linearly.
I think you have correctly surmised the problem. On open circuit
in the sender would give exactly that symptom. Once the slider passes
the open spot, instead of seeing some voltage (proportional to
position) through a resistance, it would see 0 volts (ground) through
some resistance. It doesn't matter what the resistance at that point
it is still 0 volts, since you are disconnected from what used to
be a resistive voltage divider.
Bill
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525.8 | one more tidbit | UNIFIX::FRENCH | Bill French 381-1859 | Mon Jun 15 1992 13:19 | 5 |
| If it dives for the bottom smoothly, that's probably due to damping in
the gauge circuit - like gas guages normally have.
Bill
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525.9 | memories | SNMFS::BOWMAN | | Tue Jun 16 1992 00:03 | 17 |
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if i remember correctly the johnsons had a plastic
screw out plug in the port ram, behind this is a spring and a ball
bearing that runs up and down on the variable resistor inside .
id replace this after checking that the wire from the unit was ok and
not getting an open cct in a particular position.
i had heaps of trouble with this in my 135 johnson.
in the end i even had extra earths because of some mods id made.
the other option is to put in a manual trim and disregard the electric
this is the option i took with my merc as their senders are really
inacurate.
the other reg
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525.10 | | TOOK::SWIST | Jim Swist LKG2-2/T2 DTN 226-7102 | Tue Sep 08 1992 14:48 | 29 |
| My trim gauge sending unit was definitely open. Went and bought a new
one (@#$#%$$ $52 for a variable resistor, a spring and a couple feet
of cable &$#^$^*).
The guy at Russo's said replacing it was a piece of cake. The mounting
of the sending unit looks simple - couple of bolts and good access with
the engine tilted up all the way (doesn't even look like I'd need to
take the boat out of the water).
Of course nothing is ever simple - the wires from this unit join two
bigger wires which must be the juice for the tilt cylinders themselves,
and then they go into a black sleeve which runs through the transom
forward under the motor, joins the gas/oil hoses (via plastic cable
ties), goes into the motor housing near the front of the motor, and
then snakes along the bottom of the powerhead and up the back of the
block where they emerge from the sleeve and join some connectors.
Removing the whole sleeve assembly looks pretty contorted. There is
very little clearance between the bottom of the powerhead and the
housing, and a fair number of ties and clamps. Has anyone done this?
I was thinking maybe I should connect some string or another wire to
the loose end of the cable and pull it out of the sleeve at the sending
unit end. Then I'd have a fishwire to pull the new cable back through,
althought I'd have to at least cut the cable ties and loosen up any
other clamps.
I could also cut the wires right at the sending unit and splice the new
unit into the old wires, but I'm not thrilled about doing this in a
location about 2" above the (salt) waterline.
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