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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

507.0. "Lead Additives ?" by MAMTS5::WFIGANIAK () Fri Sep 08 1989 10:22

    My 1986 260 Mrec just sucked and exhaust valve and is going to cost
    me big bucks to fix. I spoken with the guys in the shop and nobody
    can really tell me why. The engine has never overheated,I run usually
    around 3600 to 3800 rpms and I have faithly changed oil and filter
    every 50 hrs. The engine never had as much as a tap and was running
    well on the day it happened. 
    I only have 373 hrs on the engine and everyone I've talked to is
    amazed that this happened. I've never been one to add anything to
    any engine fluids except maybe the dry gas at the begining and end
    of the season. I guess the question is should I have been using
    a lead additive. I thought the newer marine engines were set up
    to use the no lead fuels.
    Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
    Thanks
    Walt
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507.1Not all that surprisingBIZNIS::CADMUSFri Sep 08 1989 10:5227
    
    
    Is the 260 based on the small block Chevvy engine? If so, the max rpm
    on that engine is arouind 4200. running 3600 --3800 rpm is pushing that
    engine kind of hard. In a car ( or truck, which the engine is based on)
    That's akin to diving up a VERY steep hill at about 70 mph. 
    
     I have a 350 chev in my boatI find I get the best performance(
    economy) at around 3000-3200 rpm. Having had more than my share of
    sometimes specatcular  major engine failure, I tend to be somewhat
    gentle on my engine. 
    
 Running an engine at those rpm's with a high load  such as in a boat 
    for extended periods of time often results in failure. THe recreational
    boat engines are usyually LT ( Light truck based blocks, although some
    mercruiser 4 bangers are based on a 4cyl ford trctor. The
    tractor/industrial based marine engines are designed to run at full
    load continuosly, while the truck and automotive based engines are not.
    
    If you engine bought the farm - you can replace the block/heads with
    GM lighttruck components-( I am still assuming you have a GM small
    block v8 based engine) with the block and heads- the main differnces
    are different ( marine ) head and intake manifold gaskets and brass
    core ( freeze )plugs. 
    
    
     D................     
507.2BAD VALVETHOTH::WRIGHTFri Sep 08 1989 14:0810
    HI I HAVE A 205 4WINNS WITH A 175 HP I LOST AN EXHAUST VALVE ALSO.
    THE REASON WAS THAT WHEN IT WAS TUNED UP FOR THE SEASON THE GUY
    PUT THE WRONG PLUGS IN,MUCH TO HOT. THE MOTOR NEVER OVERHEATED.
    THIS WAS NOT COVERED BY MY WARRANTY. THE GUY WHO DID THE WORK HIS
    INSURANCE TOOK CARE OF IT. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME THE COST
    WAS JUST UNDER $700.00 90% OF THAT WAS LABOR. MY ENGINE HAD APPROX
    30 HRS. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    
    			BOB W
507.3260 Mercruiser = 350 ChevyCLOVE::KLEINMon Sep 18 1989 13:1320
    
    Actually, chewing up a valve after 373 hours of relatively hard
    running is not that surprising. As mentioned previously, the motors
    are designed to 'max out' around 4200 (or so) ... so running around
    in the top 90% of the motor is pretty stressful.
    
    And yes, the 260 Mercruiser is a stock 350 Chevy block with various
    marine components added.
    
    Mercruiser has recently had problems with their valve trains - the
    365 Magnum (big block Chevy) seems to have a large appetite for rocker 
    arms. The 260 seems to have been (via anaecdote only) relatively
    trouble free.
                
    One thing that I've done to extend engine life is to get a teflon-based
    product and add it to the motor oil.
                
    Mitchell