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Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
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503.0. "Musling " by CDR::SPENCER (John Spencer) Sat Sep 02 1989 00:57

Anyone own or have any experience with a Musling, 18' or preferably 14'?
I've driven one (14' w/ 40hp) around for half an hour, but had to chase
bigger wakes to get any real sense of how it rides in the rougher stuff. 

FYI, they have significant deadrise--24 degrees--and a keel tunnel that 
fills with water at low speed for added stability, yet empties for light
weight and sparkling high speed performance.  They are a highly successful
Norwegian design for more than ten years now (patented), and recently 
production began in Vancouver along with sales in the U.S.  

Thanks,  John.
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503.1ne Fjordling!HSKAPL::LUPANDERJan-Christian LupanderTue Sep 05 1989 02:4735
    FWIW I owned one of the originals, a Fjordling 17 made by Fjord
    Boats in Norway back in 1966. It's still in the family but nowadays
    owned by my son. During it's life it has had just two engines, for
    the first twenty years a Merc1100 110 hp  and since a couple of
    years a similiar 115hp. The boat is nice and behaves very well in
    most weather conditions. The boat will stand more abuse than the
    driver. 
    It is however a mid -60s design and a lot has been learnt since then 
    on deep-V hull design. I don't think the tunnel gives any better 
    end-result than what you can get on a well designed hull today without     
    it. It will in fact make planing off a bit slower as the tunnel has to 
    empty first. In other words not a skiing boat.
    The hull seems to take almost as much power as you care to mount,          
    altough recommended power was 40 to 100 hp the Fjordlings were raced
    back in the 60s with twin 110hp outboards on them.                                        
                                                      
    If it is of any interest, this is what I know about the history
    of the design: The hull was designed in 1964/65 by Jan Linge, a 
    well known Norwegian naval architect at that time mainly involved a with 
    designing fast patrol craft for the Norwegian navy. The Fjord yard got 
    interested and tought they might sell a couple of dozens of the design 
    if they were lucky. About 1972 they had sold 1200! Then they had some
    disagreement with Mr Linge and production ceased. Sometimes late
    in the seventies the design was bought by another company and
    production restarted (There always was just one hull sized, the
    17' one) but it never become the success it once was.     
    So now somone is trying again....       
                      
    BTW Jan Linge went on designing pleasure craft and there is a number
    of Norwegian boats having a model name ending in ...ling as an indication
    of that.                                                        
                                                      
    -jcl                          
                                     
                      
503.2The tunnel seems to work fineCDR::SPENCERJohn SpencerTue Sep 05 1989 13:3028
RE: .1,

Thanks for your impressions.  It seems pretty impresive for such a small 
boat, though I wouldn't think as much of a difference would be felt the 
larger one got.

The main reason for the tunnel design is to give more stability at rest 
and slow speeds -- you can imagine that 14' deep-V wouldn't have much 
stability at all!  As it is, the tunnel filled effectively provides a 
floating "bottom" which is close to 3' wide, and thus a step away from the 
centerline doesn't tend to tip her like a drunken dory.

My own interest is in a small deep-V which can handle some speed in waves 
without tiring the driver too rapidly by being mercilessly pounded at each 
impact on a wave.

>>>   I don't think the tunnel gives any better end-result than what you 
>>>   can get on a well designed hull today without it.  It will in fact 
>>>   make planing off a bit slower as the tunnel has to empty first. 

Maybe they've improved this part of the design.  I found it absolutely 
impossible to detect any lag from tunnel water failing to exit; there's a 
2" dia vent forward, and a lot of air sucks down through it when you hit 
the gas.  It is amusing to gun the boat in reverse from a stop, and watch 
the fountain of water spew from the vent; very confusing to those who may 
be watching!

J.
503.3Great changes!HSKAPL::LUPANDERJan-Christian LupanderWed Sep 06 1989 06:2313
    They certainly have improved it!
    The original had no went like the one you describe, just a number
    of slots along the upper edge of the tunnel and the of course the
    fully open rear end.
    That meant that the boat had to be half planing before the wents
    got above water could start feeding air into the tunnel.
    
    BTW. The tunnel on my boat just formed the tip of the V and was
    maybe 2' wide at most. It was a separate pice of lamination attached 
    to the main hull by some 50 screws.
                
    -jcl