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416.1 | Huh? | PACKER::GIBSON | I'm the NRA | Mon Jun 26 1989 09:31 | 11 |
| Jeanne (sp?)
Whats a M.C. ?
I think haveing woman around the boat is just fine ! also in the
boat, over the boat, under the boat? Wherever?
SCUBA ^
Walt
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416.2 | Not-A-Tique | DONVAN::DECAROLIS | Boil Some Water! | Mon Jun 26 1989 10:46 | 7 |
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Walt....you're toooooooooo funny!
M.C. is an abbrev. for Monster....I mean Master Craft.
jd/
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416.3 | Warning...not for beginners! | ROGER::GAUDET | Ski Nautique | Mon Jun 26 1989 12:41 | 40 |
| Jeanne, do your friends need an expert driver to show them how it's
done? Where are they trying this? Maybe some on-site instruction
would help?
Skier cuts to the outside (doesn't matter which side, although some
boats tend to turn better to one side than the other...you gotta
figure that one out for yourself). For the sake of this example, let's
say the skier will cut to the right side of the boat. The driver
gradually turns the boat to the left thus whipping the skier faster to
the right side. When the skier is at maximum velocity (at about 60
degrees off the stern) the driver suddenly turns the boat (*VERY*
sharply) 180 degrees in the direction of the skier, backs off the
throttle (almost to idle), everyone in the boat ducks down, and a
spotter holds the ski rope up. As the boat turns, the spotter guides
the rope over the driver's head and windshield (beware of this, you could
rip the windshield (and driver's head) off if it gets caught) and then
the driver accelerates back up to speed. The skier must pay attention
to the boat position so that he/she can turn back toward the boat when
the driver accelerates out of the hole. And voila! The skier "sees"
360 degrees around the boat, even though the boat only turned 180.
A slight variation to this is to have the skier start on one side of
the wake and cut *hard* across the wake. With this method you don't
need to turn the boat to the left before turning toward the skier. We
do it this way all the time and our skiers have plenty of speed to
complete the circle and stay on top of the water as the boat comes out
of the hole.
Any questions? Fire away. Good luck to your friends. Please remind
them of safety first! This is not your average stunt...it requires a
skilled driver, skier and spotter. We developed this stunt gradually,
taking it one step at a time. Make sure the turn is sharp and the
acceleration is smooth *BEFORE* you put a skier on the end of the rope.
Also, make a couple of passes where the skier whips outside the wake
and then lets go of the rope and check how far they go on the water.
You'd be surprised how fast you sink while the boat completes the turn.
Please be careful.
...Roger...
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416.4 | A couple questions..... | DONVAN::DECAROLIS | Wimbledon 1989 | Mon Jun 26 1989 16:44 | 46 |
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>Jeanne, do your friends need an expert driver to show them how it's
>done? Where are they trying this? Maybe some on-site instruction
>would help?
Yeah Roger....that would be great. We're trying this up at
Lake Attitash in Merrimac, MA. If we can't make it work with these
instructions, I'm sure they'd love to have you help/show them the
"right" way. Thanks!
>Skier cuts to the outside (doesn't matter which side, although some
>boats tend to turn better to one side than the other...you gotta
>figure that one out for yourself). For the sake of this example, let's
>say the skier will cut to the right side of the boat. The driver
>gradually turns the boat to the left thus whipping the skier faster to
>the right side. When the skier is at maximum velocity (at about 60
>degrees off the stern) the driver suddenly turns the boat (*VERY*
>sharply) 180 degrees in the direction of the skier, backs off the
>throttle (almost to idle), everyone in the boat ducks down, and a
>spotter holds the ski rope up.
Ummmm.....does the skier at this point nail it across the
wake? I think I'm confused, doesn't the skier cut in front of the boat
(after/or while the boat is changing directions)??? When should
the skier make his move?
>rip the windshield (and driver's head) off if it gets caught) and then
>the driver accelerates back up to speed. The skier must pay attention
>to the boat position so that he/she can turn back toward the boat when
>the driver accelerates out of the hole.
So at this point, the skier has crossed over to the other side, the
boat direction has been reversed and the driver accelerates?
>You'd be surprised how fast you sink while the boat completes the turn.
Right! Thats' what I saw happening, the skier would cut across
the wake and then sink. It was like he didn't have enough momentum
to carry himself to the other side and beyond. They made three attempts
and then quit.
Jeanne
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416.5 | from a seasoned spotter... | REMEDY::KOPEC | LIB$INSERT_SCREWDRIVER() | Tue Jun 27 1989 09:08 | 24 |
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1.) make sure there are no parts of the windshield frame that could
catch on the rope; it there are, you'll have to "fillet" them (build
them up with something like tightly wadded paper, small rocks, etc
and then tape over it)... often, if the timing isn't quite right
the rope will snap down on a corner of the windshield, and anything
that catches on the rope will be history. Tape alone won't do it,
because the rope pulls *hard* and will just stretch the tape into
whatever gap it's covering. The windshield will support the rope
as long as it doesn't snag...
2.) As roger said, the spotter guides the rope. the spotter does
*not* support the rope under tension - s/he can't. When the slack
picks up coming out of the turn, it picks up fast.. and if the
spotter's hand is between the rope and some part of the boat, it's
not a pretty sight...
3.) the driver and spotter should be used to the way the boat feels
when it is spun before they try this with a skier... the combination
of forces takes getting used to, and you don't want a flying rope
adding to the confusion..
...tom
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416.6 | Boat differences.. | REMEDY::KOPEC | LIB$INSERT_SCREWDRIVER() | Tue Jun 27 1989 09:13 | 9 |
| oh, and maybe Roger can add to this, but it seems that some boats
just don't spin quite right for this maneuver.. it probably has
to do with the exact combination of engine performance, prop, fin
configuration, weight distribution, rudder condition, and god knows
what else... It's not just a MC/Nautique/whatever argument (tho
I'm sure we could turn it into one 8-)), because even two nearly
identical boats may spin quite differently..
...tom
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416.7 | Additional detail | ROGER::GAUDET | Ski Nautique | Tue Jun 27 1989 16:28 | 40 |
| Tom (.5 & .6) is right, two boats of the same type *do* spin
differently. We spent a good amount of time practicing spinning the
boat before putting someone on the end of a rope. It is not just a
matter of turning the boat when you feel like it...this is purely a
timing maneuver, and a split second means the skier either sinks or
gets the rope yanked from his/her hand. Tom is a veteran spotter, and
he's had his share of jammed fingers and rope burns. This is not a
stunt for the weekend warrior!
So Jeanne, how far is this lake from, say, Maynard? Perhaps an
after-work trip could be in order here.
>> Ummmm.....does the skier at this point nail it across the
>> wake? I think I'm confused, doesn't the skier cut in front of the boat
>> (after/or while the boat is changing directions)??? When should
>> the skier make his move?
If by "nail it" you mean cut hard, the answer is YES. The skier has to
put his/her all into the cut to get enough speed to complete the turn.
The skier DOES NOT cut in front of the boat. This is impossible anyway
(thank God). The boat turns "into" the skier (by which I mean in the
direction of the skier, not "over" him/her). As for the skier making
their move, I assume you mean when do they start to cut; this is up to
the skier. When s/he's ready, they cut, and the driver has to turn the
boat at the right time (as described in my last note).
>> So at this point, the skier has crossed over to the other side, the
>> boat direction has been reversed and the driver accelerates?
Yup. This is the point where the skier has to be watching for the boat
to pick up speed and turn toward the boat so that the arms remain with the
body. You see, the skier needs to glide as long as possible, therefore
they'll have to wait till the last possible moment before cutting
toward the boat. This is because as soon as the skier leans toward the
boat, there's a dramatic decrease in speed (skier's speed), so they'll
need to wait as long as possible before turning back toward the boat.
Good luck.
...Roger...
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