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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

348.0. "Barnacle Removal" by IAMOK::BELL (Bill dtn273-5217 @VRO) Fri Apr 21 1989 16:23

    even though my I/O was painted last summer (boat in water all
    summer) it was covered with barnacles.
    
    Problem:  How do i remove those dead litle suckers from the out
    drive.
    
    Scrap them off with a chisel, use electric drill with wire
    brush......... or   ?
          
    I don't look forward to cleaning up the mess.
    
          
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348.1Yuk squared.CURIE::THACKERAYRay Thackeray MR03 DTN 297-5622Thu Apr 27 1989 09:4919
    I have the same problem; even though the outdrive was painted (by
    the way, with copper-based paint. My dockmaster told me it was OK
    but since I've found out otherwise, but no visible damage, as afr
    as I can see), I still had a lot of barnacles etc. especially in
    the "tricky" bits, under the drive, in the crevaces, etc......
    
    Anyway, I'm using a wire brush and sandpaper to remove all the old
    stuff and layer of paint and am going to touch it up with outdrive
    paint (don't know what to buy, yet), then paint it with some special
    antifouling paint (don't know what that should be, either).
    
    The Volvo outdrive instruction manual is next to useless; it doesn't
    specify anything.
    
    Helpers? Recommendations?
    
    Tally-ho,
    
    Ray
348.2Wanta be scared??SALEM::KLOTZFri Apr 28 1989 10:4438
    A thought --
    
    	If you have visible barnacle growth on the OUTSIDE of your stern
    	drive -- have you considered the possibility of what is on the
    	INTERIOR (cooling pipes. etc...)
    
    	I have heard of build up that eventualy catches folks by suprise
    	when things over heat,...
    
    	The scary thing is this happens even to those who carefully
    	paint their drives (ya can't paint the insides.
    
    Second hand solution? --
    
    	I have never had the problem so have not tried this; but, have
        long time boating friend who swears by it & has been doing it
    	on the same boat for about 8 years with no negative results.
    	(He is in a very high barnacle growth area)
    
    	About once (twice?) a month he lifts his drive (boat in water)
    	gets out on the swim platform, & slips a heavy duty plastic
    	trash bag over the drive, then lowers the drive.
    
    	He then insures the bag is full of water and proceeds to add
    	a few cups of Clorox Bleach to the bag, lets it sit for a few
    	hours & then removes the bag. (Dispose of properly).
    
    	This will by no means remove any growth; but, he never has any
    	growth we he hauls his boat.
    
        Again -- I have not tried this so I can't say if there are any
    	negative aspects (eating rubber, etc..) I just know my friend
        seems to have good luck & others around him have picked up the
        procedure.
    
                                 Take care,
                                            Lou "Phanta Sea"
    
348.3Try a high pressure water jet!BIZNIS::CADMUSWed May 10 1989 15:0647
    
    
    I had this problem when I hauled my boat last year, even though I used
    tin- based paint. The Bottom paint on my 22' I/O had built up and was
    starting to flake off after 16 yrs.
    
     Solution was to rent a high pressure sprayer from my locla Taylor
    rental . This monster cost me $70 ( 1 day minimum rent), and was
    powered by a 10 hp engine. It puts out a stream of water about the
    diameter of a pencil lead at about 3500-4000 psi.
    
     I tested it on some wood before trying it on the boat- it will
    definetly do serious damage to bare wood- like you wouldn't believe.
    
     The force vcan be controlled by distance or changin nozzles. This
    thing took the barnacles and ALL the loose  old paint off the outdrive.
    It took about 90% of the old bottom paint off without damaging the
    fibreglass. What is left is going to take some serious work with a
    sander or paint remover. I was careful aroud the rubber seal on the
    outdrive as I suspect it would have cut like butter.
    
     The whole job took me a little over an hour- should have called all my
    friends and gone through a mass production.
    
     This is a serious machine and you can do some serious injury if you
    decide to sritz a finger or a foot, but does it clean a bottom. Even
    took off the glued on boot topping like nothing when I slipped( ever
    tried to get that stuff off ?)
    
     I got the idea by watching a young lady at the boatyard last fall.
    She was a new boter- purchased a 20' sailboat and launched it without
    painting the bottom. When she hauled it at the end of the season, the
    bottom was covered with aboput 3/4" of barnacles and other wildlife too
    gruesome to mention. about 2hrs after she hauled it I saw all this mist
    and heard a lot of noise where she had the boat hauled up. She was
    using this machine to take the barnacles off! the bottom was as clean
    as a whistle, but she had to wear glovesd and goggles beacuse of the
    shrapnel!.
    
     These machines come in various sizes/pressure ratings, and I opted for
    positive removal. 
    
     It was expensive- but it sure made a dirty weekend ( orlonger) job
    easy!
    

    
348.4Should have hosed last FallIAMOK::BELLBill dtn273-5217 @VROWed May 10 1989 18:2814
    WELL I USED AN ELECTRIC DRILL WITH A  wire brush on it .
    
    It took off quit a bit of "dem Critters" but not nearly enough.
    the power hose sound s  good but would have been best last fall.
    I'm afraid they are really hardened onto the motor now.
    
    Last fall my brotherinlaw Leo said to use bleach on the devils.I
    did, and suppose it kill them.  Leo used to own a mariner down Cape,
    and will probably have ideas, so I'll have to ask him what I should 
    do next
    
    Will post if I have any luck.
    Bill.                       
                                 
348.5Hydroblasting works well in the spring, too!BIZNIS::CADMUSMon Jun 19 1989 15:5516
    
    
     I used the power hose this spring- worked great getting into all those
    crevices- but I used a 3500psi rig with a 10 hp engine- this size
    machine is called a "hydorblaster"- and will literally peel the bark off a
    tree- I have an oak in my yard that will testify to a slip of the hand.
    
     I would use one of these machines with extreme caution- they CAN cause
    some serious injury and/or propert
    y damage if not used properly. I would
    be very careful if I was using it in a boat yard with other people and
    boats around.
    
      
    
    
348.6getting barnacles off fiberglassTAMRC::WHITMANMon May 23 1994 13:3425
    I screwed up.
    I live on a brackish river in Ft. Myers, FL.  A couple months ago I put
    my fiberglass bass boat in the river & left it tied to the dock.  Last
    night I noticed the crustaceans growing on my hull.  I pulled the boat
    and took her to the local high-pressure carwash.  I got most of the
    bi-valves off, but I still have a nice collection of small barnacles. 
    They seem to scrape off okay using a putty knife.  After the scraping
    though I still have the circles where they had adhered to the gel-coat. 
    I'm planning to put the boat up on a cradle this weekend so I can get
    access to the bottom and finish the scraping job. My question is
    basically can I use a buffing compound (like you'd use on a car) to
    finish the removal of the crap that's left on the fiberglass?  I'd rather
    not use sandpaper if I can get away without it.
    
    Any success stories out there as to what I can use to polish this crud
    off the bottom of my boat?  I'm sick over this.  I never thought I'd
    get so much growth in such a short period of time.  With the boat ramp
    within walking distance, this is the last time the boat will be left in
    the water more than a couple days...
    
    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
    
    Thanks,
    
    Al
348.7Have you considered painting?GUCCI::HERBNew Personal Name coming soon!Mon May 23 1994 14:182
    Why not simply paint it with anti-fouling paint? Micron CSC will hold
    up pretty well under dry storage.
348.8bottom paint is an optionTAMRC::WHITMANMon May 23 1994 14:398
    When I first called the local marina and told them my predicament, they
    suggested  sandblasting the barnacles off (at the time I didn't know they'd
    scrape as easily as they appear to) and then painting.  Whereas this is
    supposed to be a primarily fresh water boat, I'd rather not paint if I
    can find an way to get my gel-coat back to where it's sdupposed to be.
    If my scrape and polish method does not give a satisfactory finish,
    then I'll be looking for Petit or Micron or whatever...  I'm just PO'd
    at myself for letting this happen...
348.9SALEM::NORCROSS_WTue May 24 1994 13:067
    I used Micron ??? on my fresh water boat. (Probably pretty foolishly as
    it turns out).  One heavy application with a roller lasted 3 seasons.
    Although initially expensive, now I think it was a good deal.  If I
    was to be in salt water even for short periods of time, I would use
    this stuff again but my boat will never see salt water so I probably
    won't paint at all.
    Wayne
348.10Only took 1 quart for a 24' this yearGUCCI::HERBNew Personal Name coming soon!Tue May 24 1994 22:2411
    I'm on my 3rd season of "touch-up" of the Micron paint and have not had
    a browth problem yet. I started out paying my son $40 to paint the
    bottom. Now, he does the job in 1 day (touch-up of bare hull plus 3
    coats on the sides). 
    
    I use one of those Karcher pressure washers in the fall when I pull the
    boat out (good stuff) and in the Spring to remove flaking bottom paint.
    
    One of the features of Micron is that it does not lose its strengh when
    stored on land. The directions just say to wash down in order to
    rejuvenate.