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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

209.0. "Help a sailor buy a power boat" by BOSTON::SWIST (Jim Swist BXO 224-1699) Fri Nov 18 1988 11:40

    I am a not a power boat person by tradition, but I have a place
    in Maine on the Sheepscot River estuary ( ten foot tides, freezing
    cold water, relatively sheltered) that I want to get a small boat
    for.  With a budget of $3-4K and two small children I'm thinking
    of switching to a power boat for the first time in my life.  For
    that money I can only get a small day sailor and the conditions
    just aren't great for family sailing.   In addition there are a
    lot of neat harbors and other places to "go to" in that area, and
    a sailboat is not a good choice if you have point A to point B trips
    in mind.
    
    My ignorance of power boats is substantial - for example, in this
    file boats seems to have 100 hp (or larger) engines.  An 8 hp motor
    moves a small sailboat just fine, so I guess I don't understand
    something....
    
    Anyway, could anyone recommend something for the following 
    requirements:
    
    	- Speed not an issue.  Need to fight relatively strong tidal
    	  currents but am in no hurry otherwise (can't you tell I'm
          a sailor?)
    
        - Dry dry dry.  Keep that cold water and spray out of the boat.
    
        - Stability.  Kids, etc.
    
        - Comfortable for 4-6 people for relatively short trips.
    
        - Environment: Immediate coast, estuaries, bays.  Not open ocean.
    
        - Budget approx 3.5K, including trailer and motor.  Used is
          OK.
    
    Thanks,
    Jim
   
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209.1Novi skiff!NULL::GIBSONLobst'a Ayh'a I'm the NRAFri Nov 18 1988 12:3729
    Hi Jim.
    
    My recomendation for you is to go Classic with a traditional Maine
    or Nova Scotian Dory. Made of modern day "Plywood" .
    
    With a flat bottom and wide beam it is a very stable boat for the
    kids to gunkhole with. Mount a small outbard 15 to 25 hp in the
    motor well and the boat will do quite nicely. If you have to fight
    tidal currents and don't have the alternitive to run in backflow
    then I would change the screw to something with a bit more thrust
    to it.
    
    You can pick up an 18 footer at quite resonable cost, buy an outboard
    and a trailer and still have enough cash left over for some fishing
    tackle. The most expensive item will be the outboard, A new one
    will run you around $1500 to $2000 and the trailer ( Bunk) will
    cost around $800 to 1000. depending on type. if your goint to do
    a lot of trailing get a good one with large 14 in wheels and bearing
    buddies. Galvenized of course.
    
    That leaves the boat? Check around for local builders in your area,
    Ask around marina's You won't find these guys in the yellowe pages
    or at the yacht yard. More than likely your best bet will be to
    check at local fish peirs and tackle/ liverys.
    
    Have fun and name her somthing salty!
    
                                                Walt
    
209.2look for usedCRISTA::CERIA2*(454+4bbl)=$0Mon Nov 21 1988 10:528
    Jim,
    
    Check out some of the boats in note 3.*, a good used boat might
    be you best bet. Note 3.121 is in your price range, and I'm sure
    there are a few others in there also in your price range. New outboards
    (even small HP's) are big bucks. 
    
                                             Jeff
209.3I know those waters!RUTLND::DAYTue Nov 22 1988 12:3622
    Jim,
    	From my experience in those waters in my 16 foot Lyman with
    40 Mercury I would suggest you be careful not to underpower.  The
    Sheepscot can get a bit choppy with an outgoing tide and 10 - 15
    knot prevailing Southwesterlies - of course you can use either Back
    River (Montsweag Bay & behind Barters Is.) - but you will, most
    likely be going to Boothbay Harbor and going through Townsend Gut
    especially on the Boothbay side can be quite damp when you pass 35 foot
    sport fishermen who don't understand "NO WAKE" signs.  The extra
    power will enable you to lift the bow up as you enter their wake.
    	As for a boat - you probably don't want any sort of bow rider
    - I see some people around there in bow riders wearing slickers
    and looking ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE on nice, breezy, sunny days.  I
    would say a windscreen is a MUST.  Try the marinas around to find
    something used probably 19' or so for 4 people (in my boat I feel
    comfortable with one passenger but 3 makes it too heavy and sluggish).
    	Good luck and maybe I'll see you floating around.  I keep my
    Lyman in South Bristol and have had it 30 years.  I'm sort of
    adventurous and cruise the coast (Cutler to Portland) and sleep
    aboard.
    
    	Ben
209.4Dealer cost book???WEDOIT::JOYCEMon Jan 09 1989 07:335
    Has anyone come across a "dealer cost" book for boats? They have
    them for cars which list the dealer costs for the car and options.
    I've never seen one for boats.
    
    Steve
209.5HAZEL::YELINEKWITHIN 10Mon Jan 09 1989 11:034
    
    Boat prices are a much better kept secret than motor vehicle pricing.