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| 155.1 | 125 HP is largest Force OB | FSDEV1::BSERVEY | Bill Servey | Fri Sep 16 1988 15:35 | 6 |
| Hi ET!
You are correct, FORCE used to be Chrysler a long long long time
ago (and before that they we SEARS!). The largest FORCE engine is
125HP. I would'nt use kerosene in the new engines!
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| 155.2 | Force Info | DPDMAI::VILLAROSA | | Tue Mar 07 1989 00:47 | 6 |
| See note 1011 in Rainbo::fishing. There's a hot debate going on.
Watch out for low flying opinions though.
The boats you are seeing the Force engines should be the Bayliner
brand of boats. Excellent quality boat for the money..
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| 155.3 | L drive info needed | WFOV11::KOEHLER | Time for a Vacation | Wed Apr 11 1990 09:56 | 5 |
| I have a friend that is thinking of buying a Bayliner 20' with the
~new "L" drive Force motor. Does anyone have any first hand experence
with this type drive?
Jim
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| 155.5 | L Drive - maybe good, maybe bad | CSMET2::CHACE | is it getting warmer? | Wed Apr 11 1990 14:22 | 29 |
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Jim - The L drive has a couple of things going for it and it also
has a couple of drawbacks.
Pros: compact installation
easy to work on
supposed to be quieter than OB (I'll buy that)
Cons: limited horsepower availability
lower unit tips up but will NOT tip out of the water.
That means problems with marine growth and you
must get in the water to do anything to the
prop. This also means that you'd go through
zinc annodes quickly = more lower unit maint.
Made by Force - Force engines have the lowest levels
of respect among the major brands, and They DO NOT
have oil injection. This means lower resale
value.
One other thing I'd like to bring up is that with a 20' boat,
the largest L Drive will not exactly overpower the boat. How the
boat is going to be used will determine if power should also be
a factor. (ie. does your friend want to go out with 5 people and
ski all day etc? if so, he may find the boat underpowered)
It's a neat idea that Fageol had 40 years ago. It didn't catch
on then, but maybe it will now.
Kenny
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| 155.6 | Quite and more room compaired to and I/O | WFOV11::KOEHLER | Time for a Vacation | Wed Apr 11 1990 14:57 | 6 |
| Thanks. I'll pass it along to Rick. He only takes his present boat
on Fresh water. They do some limited skiing, lots of just putting
around and fishing. He realizes it not a real powerhouse, neighter
is is 35hp outboard he has now.
Jim
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| 155.7 | Info on "L" Drives? | GOLF::WILSON | Trump Cereal: U-Aint-Gettin-Nut'n,Honey | Fri Jul 13 1990 10:13 | 10 |
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Does anyone have any pros or cons about "L" Drives ?
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| 155.8 | Kenny's Comments | GOLF::WILSON | Trump Cereal: U-Aint-Gettin-Nut'n,Honey | Fri Jul 13 1990 10:14 | 43 |
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Jim - The L drive has a couple of things going for it and it also
has a couple of drawbacks.
Pros: compact installation (more room in the boat)
easier to work on (the powerhead - tuneups etc)
supposed to be quieter than OB (I'll buy that)
Cons: limited horsepower availability
lower unit tips up but will NOT tip out of the water.
That means problems with marine growth and you
must get in the water to do anything to the
prop. This also means that you'd go through
zinc annodes quickly if the boat is left in
the water, esp. salt water = more lower unit maint.
Made by Force - Force engines have the lowest levels
of respect among the major brands. This means
lower resale value. I must add however, that
they seem to be *reasonably* reliable (I know
a couple of people who have Force engines and
are satisfied with them).
No oil injection - this may or may not matter to you
but *I* REALLY like oil injection.
One other thing I'd like to bring up is that with a 20' boat,
the largest L Drive will not exactly overpower the boat. How the
boat is going to be used will determine if power should also be
a factor. (ie. does your friend want to go out with 5 people and
ski all day etc? if so, he may find the boat underpowered) There
should be enough power for fishing and cruising.
It's a neat idea that Fageol had 40 years ago. It didn't catch
on then, but maybe it will now.
Kenny
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| 155.9 | Leaky Force lower unit | GOLF::WILSON | This area closed for renovation | Tue Aug 13 1991 10:30 | 20 |
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I've got a 1989 Force 85 hp outboard that leaks lower unit lube after
3 or 4 trips out on the water. The problem was first noticed when I
spotted the lube bubbling up in the water after stopping. The unit has
had several seals replaced and pressure checked each time in the shop.
The boat runs fine for a while (10-20 hourthen develops a slow leak.
It leaks out of a weep hole on the lower front edge of the lower unit.
I checked the lube for water but found none also the unit is not
overfull. The kicker is when the engine is exposed to the sun on a hot
day is what seems to start the leak. It doesn't appear in the water now
but does appear in my driveway. The dealer will pressure check it,maybe
change a seal, charge me 250.00 bucks and it will leak again 3 mos.
later. Any ideas on this will be welcome.
Mike
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| 155.11 | oil expansion problem? | COLBIN::WHITMAN | Acid Rain Burns my Bass | Thu Aug 29 1991 15:38 | 24 |
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< I checked the lube for water but found none also the unit is not
< overfull. The kicker is when the engine is EXPOSED TO THE SUN ON A HOT
< DAY is what seems to start the leak. It doesn't appear in the water now
< but does appear in my driveway. The dealer will pressure check it,maybe
< change a seal, charge me 250.00 bucks and it will leak again 3 mos.
< later. Any ideas on this will be welcome.
Mike,
Is it possible that the lower unit is so air tight and so full of oil
that the expansion from the "sun on a hot day" is expanding the oil to the
point that it damages the seal? If so then maybe the solution is to not
quite fill the lower unit. If the FORCE lower unit is like others, there are
two screws in your lower unit, one for filling/draining and the other as a vent
and fill gauge. One normally removes both screws (draining out the old oil)
and then forces the new oil from of the tube into the lower hole until it
dribbles out the vent hole. Perhaps letting a couple ounces of the lube drain
back out after filling will give a little more air space in the lower unit and
reduce the pressure due to the expansion of the oil. WARNING: only drain a
couple ounces (like the volume of 2 shot glasses) to ensure you still have
enough lube to do the job.
Al
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