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Conference vicki::boats

Title:Powerboats
Notice:Introductions 2 /Classifieds 3 / '97 Ski Season 1267
Moderator:KWLITY::SUTER
Created:Thu May 12 1988
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1275
Total number of notes:18109

118.0. "Day of the Barnacles!..." by BMT::SAPIENZA (Knowledge applied is wisdom gained.) Mon Aug 15 1988 22:40

    
       After not having visited my boat in about three weeks, I finally
    managed to escape yesterday and headed down to the harbor. After
    taking the tender out to my mooring, I fired up the engines (not
    really, I had to get the batteries jump-started first -- $48, thank
    you very much Sea Tow :-( ) and after letting go of the mooring line
    I started to back down on the throttle.
    
       Funny thing, the boat didn't want to respond. The engine was
    revving just fine, but there was not much movement of the boat
    itself. With the engine spinning at 1500-2000 rpm, and some noiceable
    vibration from the stern, I didn't even break 5 knots. Also, I noticed
    that the water behind the boat looked really funny (not the typical
    wake I leave behind). I managed to crawl along to the nearest gas dock
    and tied up.
    
       To make a long story short, it turns out that the outdrive was
    totally encrusted (?) with barnacles. Completely. Even the propeller
    was covered in white.
    
       Here's the question:  How the f*** am I going to clean the damn
    outdrive, other than having the boat hauled?! And even after it's
    hauled, does anyone know of any chemicals or other methods of making
    the cleaning job easier?
    
       Any solutions or ideas are most welcome.
    
    
    Frank
    
    
    P.S. - In case you're wondering, YES the outdrive was painted before
    the boat was launched in the Spring. Obviously it wasn't a very
    good job, and I plan to take that matter up with the marina that
    did the work for me. (However, some people state that the extreme
    heat and excess sludge in the water have been causing
    barnacle-infestation  problems all over.)
    
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118.1SwimAD::GIBSONLobst'a AyahTue Aug 16 1988 15:4917
    Wow all that in three weeks? Where is you boat??
    
    My solution-- Get on a mask and snorkle and a sharp scraper and
    have fun. It should'nt take more than a couple of hours.
    
    Here's somthing I've been wanting to try. Maybe it will work for
    you.
    
    Tie off four tire tubes or a rubber raft under the stern. Inflate
    them so that the outdrive rises completly out of the water.
    
    Then do your work and deflate when finished.
    
    If this works I may amke an inflatable dry dock??
    
                                       Walt
    
118.2Good idea!SCOMAN::BOURGAULTI have a story to tell.....Wed Aug 17 1988 03:4636
    The dry dock idea soungs pretty good!  I can even venture an
    educated guess that it would work.
    
    I once had occasion to lift a good-sized wooden dock (metal
    legs, 2x10 beams, 2x4 and 2x6 planks... HEAVY construction!)
    out of the mud and shift it back onto the concrete "pads"
    under water in a similar fashion.  Using aluminum canoes
    upside down (with planks to protect the canoes) for the
    "air chambers", we filled them with air (see below) and
    lifted the whole mess as easily as you could ask for.
    Once we got everything positioned, canoes were "deflated"
    by somebody standing on one end... the other end broke the
    surface and the air escaped.  
    
    We used old freon tanks for the compressed air... one of
    us had made several, so they were handiest.  (Freon comes
    in a metal "tank" similar to a propane gas tank... about
    a foot across, and a little taller.  Once emptied, it can
    be - but isn't strictly spozed to be - adapted for holding
    compressed air.  The adapter kit is available in the auto
    section of lots of KMart type department stores...) It 
    took one tank per canoe, and then off to the compressor...
    
    I could make your "dry dock" out of a couple of planks and
    a two or more plastic drums... like building maintenance 
    types get their soaps products in (25 gallon size?).  
    They usually come with a big opening on one side of the
    top, and a vent hole on the other.  With the vent hole 
    capped and the big hole underwater, just stick the hose
    into the drum and inflate.  Comes time to lower the boat,
    just unscrew the vent cap... hisss!
    
    Hmmmm....  want to go into business together?  
    Inflatable Dry Docks, Inc. has a nice sound to it!
    
                              - Ed -
118.3Don't know if this would work but....VICKI::DODIERWed Aug 17 1988 11:107
    	I don't know much about barnicles but couldn't you make some
    type of outdrive booty ??? You could probably take a long handled
    fishing net and replace the net with a draw string type bag of some
    kind to make the whole operation a little simpler. It sounds much
    easier then scraping.
    
    	RAYJ
118.4Hey Buddy, Got a lift?AD::GIBSONLobst'a AyahWed Aug 17 1988 11:5016
    Ed. 
    I like the 55 gal poly drum idea. I know for a fact that that the
    bouyancy would be more than enough. I've made lift bag's out of
    grain sacks and plastic bags in the past. They work.
    
    A harness would be the tricky thing to make. It would have to hold
    absuloutly.
    
                              Infalatable Dry Dock's Inc.
    
                                 Sounds Good!
    
    
    
                                            Walt
    
118.5Creativity breeds solutionsBMT::SAPIENZAKnowledge applied is wisdom gained.Wed Aug 17 1988 22:3829
    
    Re .*
    
       Hmmm... The lift/float idea is interesting (if only because of
    the ingenuity of it all). However, I can see a problem or two.
    
       First, I should have mentioned that the boat is a 25' cabin cruiser,
    so the weight is probably higher that the wooden dock discussed
    previously. (Although, since only the stern would be lifted, this
    would reduce the portion of the boat being lifted.)
    
       Second, given the underwater contour of the boat, the lift-cradle
    be be more complex than just a few 2x6s. The cradle would have to
    provide adequate support for the hull, without causing any undue
    stress that might damage it. Actually, lifting only the stern might
    be out of the question since it could crete a torque effect on the
    midship and forward sections of the hull.
    
       And, as for the business aspects -- sorry guys, it's already
    been done. There are a number of commercial pneumatic lifts available
    which will lift a boat out of the water. I've typically seen these
    used by speed-boat owners who don't want to paint the bottom of
    their boat -- or have barnacles cling to the drives!
    
       But, keeps those cards and letters coming....
    
    
    Frank_who_still_hasn't_cleaned_his_outdrive
    
118.6BMT::SAPIENZAKnowledge applied is wisdom gained.Wed Aug 17 1988 22:407
    
       Oops, forget to answer .1's question.  The boat is in Northport
    Harbor (which is on the north shore of Long Island).
    
    
    Frank
    
118.7It worked onceCASV02::GUNNERSONJLGThu Aug 18 1988 13:289
    Well a simple solution, if a time consuming one, will work if you don't
    want to use your boat for a while.  Take it out of the water. The
    little white critters will die and the drying effect the air loosens
    things up a bit.  I was looking a used boat that was sitting out
    of the water on dealer's lot a while ago, it had one a Volvo I/O.
    The I/O (painted factory white) was covered with barnacles.  I was
    able to pick and scrape them off with my fingers.
    
    john  
118.8yAD::GIBSONLobst'a AyahThu Aug 18 1988 17:422
    Yea. Step on my creativity ****
    
118.9CURIE::THACKERAYRay Thackeray MR03 DTN 297-5622Fri Aug 19 1988 17:4311
    Exactly the same thing happened to me (in the water in Warren, RI)
    but I got barnacles all over the bottom of the boat. An easy job
    to haul, scrape and paint again, but a nuisance.
    
    This was after 3-4 weeks. Apparently, with this hot weather, the
    barnacle/grundge/slime situation is much worse than for a long time
    and the key is to make sure that the anti-fouling paint is fresh.
    
    Tally-ho,
    
    Ray.
118.10And I want a bigger boat?!IND::SAPIENZAKnowledge applied is wisdom gained.Mon Aug 22 1988 20:5615
    
       Well, I took the boat around to the marina on Sunday morning
    and today (Monday) they hauled it out then scraped, cleaned and
    painted the outdrive. So much for that problem.
    
       Now, I have to go down there again tomorrow morning to argue
    with the service manager about the S**T job they did. Would you
    believe that they PAINTED THE ZINCS!! (Not to mention putting a
    coat of outdrive-paint on part of the transom.)
    
       Such fun...
    
    
    Frank
    
118.11barnacles and beards...MRMFG1::J_BORZUMATOTue Aug 23 1988 16:1224
    frank,  your probably the lucky one, we are having problems like
    
    this on the south shore. the guy across from me at the marina is
    
    
    running a 32 hatteras, twin diesels, he went off to montauk a couple
    
    of weekends ago, and about a mile from the marina, ran out of fuel.
    
    excess growth on the bottom, including props and outdrives is
    
    raising all kinds of hell. my boat was growing a beard, not a mustache,
    
    i'm talking about that green grass crud, but this year it was 3-4"
    
    inches long. and yes i do run the boat. can't seem to stop the
    
    crap this year. a friend of mine went under his boat for a look
    
    see, and he went under mine as well, nothing to talk about,
    
    but other folks are having all kinds of growht problems.
    
    jim.
118.12LOVE THAT DIRTY WATERCSLALL::MFLAHERTYTue Aug 20 1991 22:597
    
    Is it true that if you venture into the Charles river for a day that
    the fresh(?) water and/or polution will kill the algae on the botton of
    a hull. I went there on the 4th of July and a couple of days later I 
    noticed that the green slime on the sides of the boat had turned brown
    and later vanished, but re-appeared shortly after (about a week). I
    don't know what the bottom looked like. 
118.13<Brushless Washing For Your Hull Below WL>PIPE::HOWELLWed Aug 21 1991 18:288
    re .12
    
    Venturing in to the Charles would probably kill anything living on the
    hull of a boat, and may affect any living organisms in the boat also.
    
    Especially after a heavy rain.
    
    
118.14and the Aquarium folks can't grow some algeaULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterFri Aug 23 1991 11:5219
re                     <<< Note 118.12 by CSLALL::MFLAHERTY >>>
>                           -< LOVE THAT DIRTY WATER >-

    
>    Is it true that if you venture into the Charles river for a day that
>    the fresh(?) water and/or polution will kill the algae on the botton of

	It seems to be generally true that most marine organisms will
die fairly quickly if their environment is changed rapidly.  

>    a hull. I went there on the 4th of July and a couple of days later I 
>    noticed that the green slime on the sides of the boat had turned brown
>    and later vanished, but re-appeared shortly after (about a week). I
>    don't know what the bottom looked like. 

	Probably replaced with a different strain

	R